Discussion in 'China' started by ajtr, Mar 23, 2010.
Publish or Publish? Or maybe Publish?
China scientists lead world in research growth
Brazil is ahead of India? very confusing the way presented, if the numbers are correct it looks like India should be behind China
country wise rankings puta india at 12 and brazil at 17.
Most of the peer reviewed journals in China are owned by the state so that means nothing. Chinese patents don't get checked out which also means nothing.
Its the growth rate that is higher for Brazil compared to India not the absolute number of articles published.
It seems the quality of published papers from China is much lower than India. China's publication record is same as the manufacturing record - more quantity, less quality.
Citations per document - China -(4.61), India - (5.77)
Also one has to consider what is the value per buck in the form of citation record. Need to look for such data. I read somewhere that India comes top in this regard.
the most wonderful reply I have heard of ever before.
At least in the medical sciences, China's advances in research and publications has been commendable. They seem to have done a good job of infusing research funds and promoting research activity in their higher education system. But having said that, there are also certain gray areas in regards to informed consent and the practice of ethical clinical research. All in all though the research productivity has been very impressive.
Legal experts in China say these figures reflect a concerted government campaign to persuade Chinese companies to protect their intellectual property by law: the elevated motorway that runs through Shanghai recently sported billboards extolling the virtues of IP protection and some Chinese companies get government subsidies to cover patent application costs, a factor that artificially inflates the number of filings.
In addition, the bulk of filings are what Elliot Papageorgiou of Rouse & Co, the IP consultancy, calls “mini-patents”, which give 10 years’ protection with less cost and fuss – often scarce investigation of claims – than the 20-year protection otherwise standard abroad.
One legal expert says the standard is so low that “at the moment, you could patent a wheel in China, and get it through”
As far as the quality of Chinese contributions, the H index establishes them in 20th place with 237, compared with 497 for France at #4 and 202 for India at #25.
The h-index is an index that attempts to measure both the scientific productivity and the apparent scientific impact of a county's scientists.
So as we see from the evidence, China is nowhere near approaching the level of scientific advancement or patent ingenuity as they want us to believe.
Hahaha! You are definetly right. Don't trust any statistic data from China. They are 100 years behind smart Indians. Hahaha.
Is there some reason you are opening a new account guy?
Isn't that the reason we call ourselves developing country?
We want you to believe? for what?
The fact is china is still far behind developed countries in almost every field. No one deny that. This thread is talking about "increasing scientific publications", the growth--in other word. So, please use your brain.
Guy, China has been increasing patents and scientific publications but it hasn't earned them any higher a spot in scientific contribution and ingenuity scale. The quality of Chinese patents and papers are just as low as that of their toys. Just because you make more of them doesn't mean they are better. This mass production of patents and papers is actually reducing the quality of the work.
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