China wary as US pushes into Asia-US increase troops in Phillipines

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  1. LETHALFORCE

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    China wary as US pushes into Asia | thetelegraph.com.au

    CHINA has called for greater efforts towards "peace and stability" in the region, after the Philippines offered to host more US troops.

    Manila said on Friday it planned to hold more joint exercises and to let more US troops rotate through the Southeast Asian country - an offer welcomed by the United States as it seeks to expand its military power in Asia.

    "We hope that relevant parties will make more effort towards peace and stability in the region," China's foreign ministry said in a brief statement.

    The government's response was in sharp contrast to a blistering editorial in the Global Times - known for its nationalistic stance - which said Beijing should impose sanctions against the Philippines over the move.

    China should use its "leverage to cut economic activities" between the Philippines and other Southeast Asian countries and consider "cooling down" business links with its smaller neighbour, according to the editorial published in the Chinese and English versions of the newspaper.

    "It should show China's neighbouring areas that balancing China by siding with the US is not a good choice," it said.

    "Well-measured sanctions against the Philippines will make it ponder the choice of losing a friend such as China and being a vain partner with the US."

    China and the Philippines, along with Vietnam, have rival claims to parts of the South China Sea, home to some of the world's most important shipping lanes and believed to hold vast deposits of fossil fuels.

    Taiwan, Brunei and Malaysia also have claims in the South China Sea.

    Manila and Hanoi complained repeatedly last year of what they said were increasingly aggressive acts by China in the decades-long rift.

    The alleged acts, which included a Chinese naval ship reportedly firing warning shots at Filipino fishermen, fuelled fears among some nations in the region about China as its military and political strength grows.

    The US has been looking to increase its military presence across Asia Pacific in a strategic shift that has angered China.

    US President Barack Obama said in November the United States would deploy up to 2500 Marines to Australia. The following month, a US admiral wrote that the US expected to station several combat ships in Singapore.
     
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    Philippines has now realised the importance of the US troops.

    In 1991, the Philippines Senate refused a new 10-year lease for Subic, and the government gave the Americans until the end of this year to leave.
     
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    China is slowly getting the noose tightened around them.
     
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    And she is not too sure how to unravel the knot!
     
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    Must they unravel it? There is a historical precedent of Alexander the Great and a Gordian Knot.
     
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    Play a Georgia over PH, to test how far the US would go for the ally? Who now can spell Abkhazia... or Ossetia? :rolleyes:

    Or finally take Russia's long awaiting offer to turn SCO into a military bloc?

    Or not yet. The priority shall be given to exercise de facto control over islands/shoals/reefs + potential deepsea oil fields ???

     
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    Matter of time when the US aggressively pushes a new military bloc with India being part of it along with Pacific rim countries.
     
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    I wonder if India will forsake her flexibility by joining any bloc.
     
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    Apart from the US, Philippines has signed a 5 year military deal with Italy.

    The Philippines is surely deeply concerned with the Chinese shenanigans in the South China sea or so it appears.

     
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    As far as the Philippines proposal to divide the waters, it is hardly plausible that China will ever agree to the same!
     
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    US has indicated that they want no Bases, but military ties.

    To ensure that façade that there are no Bases, the troops will be 'rotated', giving the impression that there are no bases!

    Whether permanently based or rotated, the presence will always be there.

    One wonders what are the other nations that have claims to the South China Sea are doing.
     
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    China cannot play a Georgian act in the Philippines. It has no breakaway provinces to speak of in the first place... It can however invade some islands in the Spratlys inhabited by Filipinos, but I doubt if the Chinese have the balls (I know Chinese are good at bluffing).
     
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    Good. Have u ever heard of Moro Islamic Liberation Front - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia in a semi-feudal semi-colonial Filipina?
    I wonder why nobody on DFI ever named PH as a failed state ?:rofl: Selective blindness?

    And bluffing? Over SCS alone China had a few fights with VN already. And with PH? Forget Mischief Reef? Mischief Reef - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


     
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    The MILF is an insurgency without well-defined territory. And China cannot dip its finger in that issue, it's in Malaysia's sphere of constructive influence actually.

    Have you been to the Philippines?


    Then why can't the PLAAN sink Philippine floating bath tubs? :rofl:
     
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    Why will the PLAAN sink Philippine tubs? The status quo suits the chinese. They are the one who are getting impatient. China got all the time in the world.
     
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    Insurgency without defined territory? nah, they want a Islamic state over Mindanao.
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    Wow travelled to Filipina? No no after this Eight Hong Kong tourists killed in Philippine bus hijacking and Philippine land reform extended for 5 years – Sulekha News
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    And read this >




     
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    Please don't talk of an issue that you don't have full grasped on. The MILF has no popular support in Mindanao, even among Muslims. And on the bigger picture the Muslims are a minority in the Philippine Mindanao island.

    Re Hongkong tourists, probably the Philippine officers thought those tourists were PLA spies... (This is a joke, may the souls of those poor victims rest in peace)

    BTW, it's funny how you swagger in your posts when the Philippine Navy routinely confiscate Chinese fishing boats in the contested area... :rofl:
     
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    You guys are idiots I support all the MILFS' if you know what i mean :p
     
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    That's courageous of you man... c'mon! :lol:
     
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    Of course the muslims don't support the MILFs, what is a MILF compared to 72 virgins afterall! :D
     
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