Discussion in 'China' started by Armand2REP, Sep 6, 2011.
LOL, we will let them go, but only after EU pay us.LOL.
You only get paid if you have insurance policies, Libya will not do business with your pariah state. Now France gets 35% of Libyan hydrocarbon production, dominance in arm sales, and billions taking over Chinese infrastructure projects. Nice job screwing yourself out of a fortune.
LOL, without China support ,those militans will never be a member of UN. LOL
Yup they do need lead paint!
LOL, those r for US.LOL.
really that is your reply comeback....lol. no wonder you have tiny ****s
Ease out people!
It seems a like a major tactical loss to China, they supported the Mr. Gaddafi's regime, and with his ouster from power, they willl loose most of the contracts signed by his regime.
China is very unethical when it comes to doing business. Its about time it comes back to bite them in the ass!
Short term pain for China. Libya needs more from China than China needs Libya. Libyaâ€™s new government will show some good gestures towards western countries such as knuckle-head France and UK initially, but once they get fully control of the country that no longer need assistance, they will soon turn their back to their formal allies like many Arabian countries did, and seek the highest bidder.
China has money and doesnâ€™t play by the rule. Soon Libya will be full of Chinese companies again. Letâ€™s wait to see.
I agree with this part. Sometimes I was bothered by it too. But I canâ€™t do nothing about it, the world is a ruthless place at the first place and everyone has to follow jungle rule to survive
Too early to say so, its the anger speaking. Once the dust settles, the new Libyan Govt. will need to look for establishing as many relationships as possible and then their tone will normalize like any other "tail between the legs" African Govt. merrily becoming a colony for China. The minister indeed used the same diplomatic "if-then-else" language as expected. I don't know why we should read so much into it. At the most it may be a message to China that they've to forget Qaddafi and start co-operating with the new Govt. It is yet to be proved that China did supply them arms or even agreed to supply. China has refuted such claims.
Western nations have played a big role in beating the stubborn Qaddafi at his home turf. So how can this minister openly embrace China and so early?
If you don't do business with unethical people, you'll hardly have anyone left to do business. After the oppressive regime of Qaddafi the Libyans will be lured to quick bucks from China, hoping to uplift themselves.
Lets see where it goes, just another African colony for China or a different case?
India too was in a fix as to which way to go. Played a safe game by using diplomatic language than openly siding with one party.
UN membership is decided in the General Assembly, not the Security Council so you got nothing. They already have enough support to be recognised.
Libya have to follow the west directive to a large extent, although it is possible that some contracts will remain with Chinese, but all in all there will be a visible move towards west. No other choice with them, they can not ditch the ones who bought them to power
Western countries will be rewarded initially, no doubt. Just like what they got in Iraq and Afghanistan initially. But they paid the price and may potentially pay much higher price (e.g. retaliation by some loyal members of formal regime). The only way to keep their interest permanently is to colonize these countries like what they did 100 years ago which they canâ€™t nowadays. Otherwise the trophies will gradually slip away from their hand to those hungry, determined but more powerful rivals like China, India, and Russia.
China has $20 billion tied up into Libya, there may be some finishing up of already committed contracts. However, the likelihood of Libya doing new business with China is highly unlikely. The end result is 36,000 unemployed Chinese, billions lost in war damage and time schedules and tens to a hundred billion lost in future contracts. The future of New Libya is clearly with the West and France as the primary partner.
France is reasserting her dominance over Africa once again. We have kicked out all Chinese influence in Libya, put China in minority position in Cote D'Ivoir and hedging them out in South Sudan. The way to maintain dominance is by asserting the power of France over African dictators and kicking out Chinese interests. The case of Libya is a prime example of what happens to China when she supports despotic regimes. France is the King Maker, not weak China.
Aptly put, China has overplayed it's cards, and I think they are going to be kicked from other places also, all thanks to there cockiness
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