China Fails to Copy Modern Turbofan Engines

Discussion in 'China' started by Armand2REP, Nov 3, 2012.

  1. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2009
    Messages:
    10,397
    Likes Received:
    2,314
    Insight: Unable to copy it, China tries building own jet engine

    (Reuters) - China has designed nuclear missiles and blasted astronauts into space, but one vital technology remains out of reach. Despite decades of research and development, China has so far failed to build a reliable, high performance jet engine.

    Insight: Unable to copy it, China tries building own jet engine | Reuters
     
  2.  
  3. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Messages:
    43,118
    Likes Received:
    23,543
    Location:
    Somewhere
    Not to worry.

    China can surmount the insurmountable.

    One day, yes, one day, they will not only produce engines, but export them cheap!

    They can achieve miracles.

    If ceiling fans are there, can turbofans be far behind?
     
  4. farhan_9909

    farhan_9909 Tihar Jail Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2012
    Messages:
    5,895
    Likes Received:
    496
    Location:
    Abbottabad,Bannu
    and china is trying there level best

    i heard that alone 1.5billions USD are sanctioned for the development of ws-15 again
     
  5. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Messages:
    43,118
    Likes Received:
    23,543
    Location:
    Somewhere
    Let them first sort out the mess they have caused by giving dud locomotives to the Pakistan Railways by trying their level best with some low end technological quick fixes.

    Can't have a most trusted ally's engines and the whole Railway up for the grabs, can we?
     
  6. Yijiuliuer

    Yijiuliuer Tihar Jail Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    302
    Likes Received:
    27
    Location:
    US
    Why are you so pessimist, you guys can build your nuclear sub withouth making a conventional one, why blame China on thinking big to build their turbo fan?

    Two years agao, you guys made fun of our then J-XX as somthing white elephant, two month ago, you guys claimed china can't build its arresor cable. two weeks ago, you said China don't know how to make an AIP sub, two days ago you guys said our 052D is a piece of PSed work....


    look at more of the brighter side of the world. and tell you the truth, turbo fan engine, are not something insurmountable.
     
  7. Illusive

    Illusive Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2010
    Messages:
    2,335
    Likes Received:
    1,418
    The main issue for Chinese would be reliability,material technology is key here, they have been successful on atleast field testing it in their prototype jets, but lets wait and see.
     
  8. G90

    G90 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    239
    Likes Received:
    13
    The latest J-15S conduct maiden flight one day after J-31's maiden flight, equipped with 2 Chinese WS-10 engines, just like all the rest made J-11 variations at Shenyang.

    You know, using WS-10s on a prototype fighter speaks volumes about its maturity.
     
  9. uvbar

    uvbar Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2012
    Messages:
    129
    Likes Received:
    23
    the problem in making of engine is making of the fans (because they need delicate handling and expertise in pattern making and metallurgy)
    and another concern is making the engine light in weight

    kaveri gtx is 34% overweight and still produces a lot less thrust than other engines
     
  10. G90

    G90 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    239
    Likes Received:
    13
    Btw, WS-10 is still a class frenchmen cannot make, I can understand the americans bragged their military high power high thrust low bypass ratio military jet engines, but who the ---- give the nerve of a french flyer to talk like as if they were something :rofl:
     
    satish007 likes this.
  11. badguy2000

    badguy2000 Respected Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Messages:
    4,957
    Likes Received:
    613
    material/metallurgy tech and maching tech is the key to produce a good engine....


    However, as developing countries, either India or CHina has much less ready material/metallurgy tech and maching tech than west and Russia...

    after heavy investment on it for over 1 decade, CHinese might advance futher than Indians now....however, they still have long way to go.
     
  12. G90

    G90 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    239
    Likes Received:
    13
    Check world top material science journal like ACTA materialia: Now 1/2 to as much as 2/3 of the top material science journal papers are written by Chinese (first author of the paper), never group China with India as if they were comparable.:rofl:
     
  13. badguy2000

    badguy2000 Respected Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Messages:
    4,957
    Likes Received:
    613
    China maybe is developing fastest,however west and Russia has a earlier start.....Chinese still need more time to finish the "catch-up"..

    and India....it still has not full industry chains and has long way to finish industrialization......

    so,it is even harder for india to finish a decent engine.
     
  14. satish007

    satish007 Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1,458
    Likes Received:
    202
    Location:
    China
    So what you old Id in this forum
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2012
  15. G90

    G90 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    239
    Likes Received:
    13
    To get a paper accepted and published in one of the leading journals, the contents of your paper has to be on-time, on-spot, and be innovative to the current stage of science/tech development, in other words, your findings has to be leading in the area of research, not merely catching-ups/repeating someone else's earlier works, otherwise you wont pass the peer-review.
     
  16. satish007

    satish007 Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1,458
    Likes Received:
    202
    Location:
    China
    You are using Indian forum ,please appreciate Indian
     
  17. G90

    G90 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    239
    Likes Received:
    13
    I will leave this forum as soon as I get a new militaryphoto account, it seems that these pathetic wankers will ban me immediately if I am trying to be even remotely honest instead of being a brain-dead moron who screaming US strong US strong :rofl:
     
  18. satish007

    satish007 Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1,458
    Likes Received:
    202
    Location:
    China
    Good.you enter another level, enjoy mp,post more topics like china vs us or j20 vs f22 or j31 vs f35,but I will stay with indan bhai
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2012
  19. GromHellscream

    GromHellscream Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2012
    Messages:
    274
    Likes Received:
    33
    Location:
    WOW
    It appears that the one under France flag is not an indian as we thought before but acts really of french style.

    Indians are truly long-reflex-arc at most, on the other hand this guy always sticks to some unnecessary self-respect.
     
  20. GromHellscream

    GromHellscream Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2012
    Messages:
    274
    Likes Received:
    33
    Location:
    WOW
    Red necks are not that easy to deal with, hehe.

    Versus topics like that are totally nonsense at all, no matter which forum they are posted in.

    By the way, I thought the Chinese Military pics thread in MP need more interesting pics, the recent ones are a little boring.
     
  21. Yijiuliuer

    Yijiuliuer Tihar Jail Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    302
    Likes Received:
    27
    Location:
    US
    I don't know if he is an Indian, I assume he actually is, but he is not a French for sure, I am positive on that.
     

Share This Page