Canada arms India, destabilizes fragile regional peace?

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  1. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    Canada arms India, destabilizes fragile regional peace? : The Canadian National Newspaper

    Being able to resolve these issues and move forward is, we believe, a really important economic opportunity for an important Canadian industry, part of the energy industry that should pay dividends in terms of jobs and growth for Canadians down the road,”



    This is a statement that has been made by the Prime Minister Stephen Harper of Canada during his recent visit to New Delhi. It has been four decades that India hadn’t been able to import any uranium or nuclear reactor from Canada. This has happened because in the year 1976 Canada stopped its nuclear supplies to India, because India has used that material in the manufacturing of the atomic bomb. But now the ice seems to be melting and both countries are giving green signals to others that they are ready to for a fresh nuclear materials business. It is also worth mentioning that almost two years back India and Canada have agreed upon a mutual corporation document in relation to the nuclear materials. But up till now nothing has been finalized because the ultimate shape of this contract has not been devised.



    According to source the delay has taken place because Canada has got some reservations over the issue that its exported materials will not be again used for the purpose of making atomic bombs as this has been done by India previously. But India maintains that it wants to install more nuclear reactors because it wants to cope up with the increasing power demands that are present in the country.



    The recent statement made by Canadian Prime Minister indicates that matter has been solved to a great extent and all this has given up rise to serious discussions among the masses. The concerned authorities are very much worried that what impact will be produced upon the peace of South Asia when this deal will be finalized. Everybody knows about the rivalry that India has with its neighbour Pakistan which is also an atomic power. The relations between both countries are always facing ups and downs and already they have fought three wars with each other. And many times the wars were about to start, but were stopped because of the international involvement. It is worth mentioning that both countries have not yet fought an atomic war yet, but if in the future they will face each then none of them will hesitate to launch a full scale atomic attack.



    The consequences of such a war will be very brutal not only for both arch rivals, but also for the whole region. Because both India and Pakistan are important strategic partners of the South Asian region any disturbance between both nations can produce a great negative impact upon their neighbors. If India decides to use the uranium supplies from Canada for generating atomic bombs and enhancing its strength as it has done before then the overall peace and stability of South Asian region will be badly affected. It is important that Canada should pay due consideration to these facts before finalizing the details because this step can claim the lives of millions of innocent people if the results will not be positive.
     
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    This just shows how ignorant Pakistan is when it comes to nuclear trade . Canada is providing
    uranium to the civilian reactors. But they could be right it would free up domestic uranium for
    military reactors?
     
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    Actually they are right that we will divert the nuclear material that we used to obtain domestically for Civilian purpose to the military purpose. But Pakis can do nothing about it except crying foul. That's the reason they keep asking US and world for their own IAEA/NSG deal.
     
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    As long as your paying in cash, take whatever you need :D

    I doubt Canada gives a damn about any resulting nuclear tension. It just wants to make profit off its massive uranium deposits. Of course India is a much more reliable partner. If the government tried doing this with Pak, there would be a shitstorm.
     
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    Wow! The quality of the article is reminiscent of a teenager's high-school rant on 'strategic Indo-Canadian relations'.

    But that aside, there have been several important developments from Stephen Harper's visit, that are indicative more of our politics than of our bilateral relations:-

    - Harper was miffed that couldn't see through the much-touted Canadian FIPA (Foreign Investment Promotion and Protection Agreement) which will make legally binding rights and obligations regarding investments on both signatories that will also be binding on both countries' states/provinces: hark compunctions of coalition/state-centre politics!
    - India was not happy with the Canadian response to Indian concerns over Sikh extremism- not least because the Canadian Prime Minister payed a visit to a key Sikh shrine with his wife, along with a couple of his demagogues, that have previously been seen at rallies honouring Khalistani extremists in Canada, in kow-tow and also made some very pointed statements about Canada's "relations with the Punjab state".
    - The Trade Minister for Canada, Ed Fast was also pretty miffed at the relative levels of opaqueness in the Indian economy. Heus FIPA redux.

    On the bright side, the many sector-specific agreements signed were indicative of some good give less-take more diplomacy by the Indian side. Some key ones were:-

    - the ratification of non-proliferation criteria fulfillment by India by the Canadian side that clears the way for nuclear trade with Canada (what India wanted)
    - the Agreement on Social Security that coordinates pensions, contributions and benefits for workers working in each others' countries (of greater benefit to India)
    - trade investments worth $2.5 billion, that mostly saw investment flowing in.

    The FIPA non-event is the big thing that the Canadian Prime Minister will take with him as he moves on to his tour of the Phillipines. At the moment, Canada's share of total FDI in India is very small and vice versa, but frankly, if we want to tap into all of that potential FDI sitting among Indo-Canadian and Canadian investors, we gotta move fast on it.
     
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    Islam Times - Canadians Critical of Canada-India Nuclear Deal


    Canadians Critical of Canada-India Nuclear Deal

    The Canada-India Nuclear Cooperation Agreement was ratified this week. However, analysts note that India has illegally produced nuclear weapons in the past and refuses to sign the Non Proliferation Treaty.

    Analysts accuse the Harper government of displaying a double standard by consenting to the sale of nuclear ingredients to India, which has not signed the Non Proliferation Treaty, while constantly criticizing Iran's peaceful nuclear program even though Iran poses no threat to Canadians and has signed the NPT.

    Many Canadians are displeased with the Harper government’s decision to sell uranium and nuclear technology to a country that refuses to sign the NPT.

    Analysts believe that those who control the Harper government are seeking to use Canada’s resources as a bargaining chip to entice India away from its Non Aligned, anti-imperialist heritage, bringing it closer to the Western imperialist states that are waging a war on the Muslim world including in Pakistan, a country which India is at odds with.

    During his visit to India Prime Minister Stephen Harper made reference to Canada and India's shared concerns with terrorism. However many have noted that the Mumbai terrorist incidents of 2008 have all the hallmarks of a false-flag operation.

    Many believe that the West is encouraging religious sectarianism in India which will make it easier for India to be re-colonized and used as a pawn in the West’s anti-Islam agenda
     
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    When it comes to foreign policy, Canada has become a "follower". Whatever the US does, Canada emulates it 110%. The Canada of Pierre Trudeau is dead.

    Long live the "Harper Government". :tsk:
     
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    Harper is a good president, you guys are prospering under Harper in these bad times for other western nations.
    why should Canada lose out on their share of the Indian nuclear pie?
     
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    The issue is not just with the Indian nuclear deal, it is the overall u-turn on many domestic and foreign policies of the previous Liberal governments. Unlike the US, most Canadians are not centre-right, they are centre-left. Unfortunately, Canada has a shitty first past the post electoral system (just like India's), and somehow the Conservatives ended up with a majority government inspite of getting barely 39% of the popular vote. Lucky for them, the progressive vote (61%) was split between the centre-left and the hard left parties.
     
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    When it comes to making money bi-partisian politics goes out the window in Western nations unlike India
    where party politics first then everthing else. Canada is a peaceful country but being a part of NATO they
    will also tow US line. Though many Canadians oppose this.
     
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    Problem is, Canada is 1/10th the population of the US. So while it may look big on the map, it has very little clout on the world stage. Hence it has to be part of an alliance to remain relevant and to guard its interests. Unlike China, US or India, Canada cannot go it alone.
     
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    Islam Times - 26/11 False flag op, well well well missed out on a few things such as Zionist world conquest conspiracy, HARPP, Polio vaccination conspiracy, etc. :rofl:
     
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    Harper had nothing to do with any of the policies which saved us from the recession. It was all the doing of previous Liberal governments.

    I am more worried about the increased government surveillance and eroding privacy, not to mention the F-35 fiasco, among other scandals.

    To be fair, the last two elections the liberals have churned out mediocre leaders. A Justin Treadeau will win back the government and Ontario. Personally, I just wish the left united.
     
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    Seriously are Austrailans and Candadians really stupid??? Why are they not able to differentiate a CIVILIAN nuclear program and a MILITARY nuclear program. India hasd completly de-linked both parties. And as for the logic that this will destabilse the region- I don't see how. India has ALWAYS enjoyed every kind of superiorty over Pakistan whether it be conventional, unconventiona, nuclear, quality, quantity- whatever. This move is not going to magically change any sort of balance.
     
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    This is more of a Pakistani view then Canadian or Australian view. Nobody gives a dam about
    the view but like they say let barking dogs bark.
     
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