Brazil Takes a Second Look at China Ties

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  1. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Though China is the largest trading partner, it is hurting Brazil manufacturing industry.

    In the long run this will have a telling impact on the internal politics and economy of Brazil. This is similar to the story of all countries which trade with China basically in commodities.

    The rainbow is vanishing as the sun gets stronger.
     
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    mattster Respected Member Senior Member

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    Its not just Brazil - all major trading partners need to be aware of Chinese tactics. People are getting tired of the one way street trade with China. Chinese companies dont play fair. They steal ideas with impunity, they infringe on everything, make counterfeit products, etc.

    Their only leverage is that they buy raw commodities. That goes only so far.
     
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    if you can not make the same costperformance pruducts, then all you said just make nosensne.
     
  5. Ray

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    Chinese cheap goods affects local manufacturing industry and job losses.

    The political and social consequences are immense.

    Therefore, the desire for uncontrolled cheap Chinese goods will go down worldwide.
     
  6. Yan Luo Wang

    Yan Luo Wang Regular Member

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    We will see. :wave:

    Anyway, China is already diversifying and moving up the value chain, in anticipation of a decrease in competitive advantage due to rising prices. So even if it does happen... we can always make a come back.
     
  7. Ray

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    You state you are in the UK.

    Just look around!

    They are already up in arms over the cheap labour they are getting from the third world and the EU! Poles are the ones now under attack and the Gurkhas, they otherwise hold in respect, in Aldershot!

    They cannot do without cheap labour, but the white British are up in arms since it is lowering the wages and they are losing jobs.

    Parties like the racist BNP are finding favour and foothold!

    The tolerant British of yore are now getting less tolerant.

    In Brazil, Chinese bought immense amount of their minerals and other natural resources leading to their (Brazil) high GDP. However, there was a loss of jobs since the Chinese flooded the market with cheap manufactured goods and so the manufacturing industry dried up.

    Search this thread and there is a link on it.

    What value chain are the Chinese moving up on?
     
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    In india china Bazaars are popping up in every nook and corner. earlier in the name of Chinese goods ,i used to see lot of Indian made products manufactured by cottage,small and medium industries of India. Now off late , what is alarming is even small paper clips imported from china are being sold along with other Chinese make tools,electrical appliances,extension boards, thermo ware, kitchen ware ,toys,cheap electronic goods,mobiles etc.... our Indian industry will shut down and millions will go jobless..its quite alarming....Chinese furniture,Chinese construction materials and bathroom fittings,pipelines are being used every where by the flat builders...our govt has to do some thing to ban these which will make the Indian industry collapse because of Chinese dumping...we will be heading the US way!!!! where from these items are entering India? is it a WTO ploy?its quite worrying...manufacturers of goods in India are turning themselves in to traders of Chinese goods...who will feed millions of hungry unemployed Indians mouths?
     
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  9. Ray

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    These China bazaars are run by those who send 'couriers' to Hong Kong, Thailand and such places who buy a whole lot of goods and bring it to these bazaar shops.

    That is why even on non low cost airlines flying East, you will find scruffy looking chaps are in the majority. These are the couriers.

    They prefer the non low cost airlines since the baggage weight allowed is more.

    Smuggling Chinese goods from Nepal and Bangladesh is another route!
     
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    attention: if possible, people always buy the most costperformance product.
     
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    Honestly my English fails to understand what 'costperformance product' means. If it is to give cheap products of good performance then I cannot say so for what is offered from China. The products are cheap for sure, but do not clear the performance, or should I say - quality benchmarks.

    Why then chinese products are used worldwide?
    Reasons lie in the consumer's psychie. People who have budget constraints buy cheap as a "will do for now" solution to their needs. Some others buy cheap merely out of greed to save money but regret later.

    I don't have any issues as such even with the cheap low quality products from China but then they destroy the local business which develops genuine products of good quality and not the Gulsar of Pulsar kinds.
    There should a balance act - buying cheap without quality or buying too costly for high quality are both counter productive to a consumer's pocket as well as the market.

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    Virendra
     

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