Bit by Bit lets dismantle them

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  1. trackwhack

    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    The British East India Company came to India to do business. How long before India kills British manufacturing? :lol:

    Jaguar Land Rover could make cars in India, says Tata

    Indian tycoon Ratan Tata says Jaguar Land Rover could start manufacturing cars in India and China.


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    Mr Tata has confirmed that JLR is in talks with a joint venture partner, thought to by Chery, about opening facilities in China. However, he also revealed that the company is exploring whether it can manufacturer products in India.

    "We are looking at manufacturing and assembling further products down the road where economies and skills of India are available. That might involve shipping products from India back to the UK," Mr Tata said at the New Delhi motor show on Thursday.

    JLR, bought by Tata Motors for $2.3bn (£1.5bn), manufacturers all its vehicles in the UK at present, although it assembles Land Rover Freelander 2 vehicles in Pune, India.

    However, a rapid growth in the company's sales in the last two years mean its plants are operating at close to full capacity.

    The Daily Telegraph revealed earlier this week that JLR is exploring plans to double the size of its Halewood plant in Merseyside in an attempt to meet soaring demand for the new Range Rover Evoque. The demand is being driven by emerging markets such as China and India.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...Rover-could-make-cars-in-India-says-Tata.html







     
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    Karma is a bitch I guess?

    Once upon a time Indians were forced to buy British goods due to lack of domestic production but now Britishers are forced to buy Indian goods because their empire has unraveled and is no longer competitive.
     
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    The job loss is worst. Especially when UK politicians may not have offered enough incentives to keep Jaguar in UK. No more political headaches and no more unions a win-win for Jaguar. Even if UK stops imports of Jaguars they still have to buy parts and Indian domestic car market will probably be 10 times bigger than Jaguars UK market.
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    Oh, they have had this coming for sometime. The whole drama around Greece and Italy is just that - Drama. The UK is the most indebted nation in the world as a ratio of debt to GDP. Its 490% of GDP at last count. Only Japan has a higher ratio but Japan is sitting on a trillion of dollars of treasury savings to compensate.

    When the shit hits the fan in the UK there will be mass migration into the US. The UK will see some horrible days soon - I give them 15 to 20 years more.

    The London Olympics will probably be the last hurrah of the empire.
     
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    Greece had their Olympics in 2004 and they economically collapsed just a few years later. Will a similar fate befall Not-so-Great Britain?
     
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    This maybe too long they still like to be an active part of NATO while cutting military spending how is this possible??
    They have to preserve their image as long as possible or people will pull their money out(if able) and they will be finished overnight.
     
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    Mr Tata speaks of doing business. Anglophobes on DFI gloat about the downfall of the business partner because of 300 year old grudges. Bizarre. Really, really bizarre.
     
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    Actually 190 years.

    1757–1858 East India Company
    1858–1947 British Indian Empire
     
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    The day that the Anglosphere collapses is the day that the rest of the world will breathe a sigh of relief.
     
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    Are you and trackwhack deliberately missing the point here -- how can you succeed in business if your business partner fails?
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    They said - The Sun never sets on the British Empire

    How long before - The Sun never rises on the British Empire.

    For whom the bell tolls!
     
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    I got the point.

    I don't think JLR will benefit by continuing it manufacturing in the UK. They will have to move out. For a company, any company, having one workforce that it paid more and another workforce that is paid less, for the same product, the former is a liability.

    I am not really focusing on whether UK collapses or not, but given the trends, UK will collapse but JLR will probably survive if they can move out to more profitable locations. Now it is upto the UK and its politicians to make changes in their laws and societies so that businesses do not pull out and people continue to invest.

    If I am not mistaken, India is the second largest investor in UK after the US, so definitely the collapse of UK will not benefit India. Given the global policing trends and attitudes that many countries (including the UK) have adopted in recent years, if UK collapses, it will have no one but itself to blame.

    Personally, I definitely want to see an end to this global policing and bullying around done by some countries (reflecting on what CivFanatic mentioned). No I don't want to see them collapse.
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    Business partner? Its a tiny island of 60 million miserable sods living off a shadow economy driven through debt and resources they stole over the last 300 years.

    Business partner - Really?
     
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    It's not about a business partnership between India and the UK, it's about a takeover of JLR by Tata Motors and plans to shift manufacturing. Of course, it could have political fallouts, but UK would not collapse if it acted like other non-interventionist countries. If they keep investing so much in defense, then they will get closer to a collapse; in that case, most of the investors will stage a walkout.
     
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    All those people who say that the WEST is finished are really stupid

    Financial troubles doesnt mean that the western countries have lost their technological prowesses
    or manufacturing abilities and skills

    West is not going anywhere

    BRIC South Korea Turkey, South africa Indonesia will become bigger and come close to
    the west but NOT replace or displace them
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    Who said anything about the west. We are only discussing GB
     
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    Even if This particular thread about GB goes further it will BE only about writing the obituary
    of the West

    Just wait and see

    First Europe and then America will be written off

    It has become a common fantasy these days of many "common " people to write off the West
     
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    I sorta agree with pankaj here, a major policy shift is required by the west to presently keep afloat and later on to grow, and west's downfall will not be favorable to India or to other emerging powers.
     
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    Your fatalist view of the world is behind the times.

    Newly industrialized countries like India and China are rapidly assimilating the required technologies in manufacturing, defence, space ind, telecommunications, etc. Within less than 70 years we have greatly reduced the technological gap between East and West, and that gap will only continue to grow smaller.

    Really the only major resource that a country like Britain has is a skilled, educated workforce.
     
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    In terms of invention and research in defense what has china invented which has not been already invented by the west decades ago. The question is where will the next set of inventions come from - it will most probably come from the west.
     

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