Bahadur Shah's Grave In Myanmar

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  1. Mikkis

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    Pakistani Emperor’s Grave In Myanmar

    PakNationalists Blog | A Bold Take On Pakistani Policy

    PakNationalists Blog | A Bold Take On Pakistani Policy

    Pakistani government and media focused on one aspect of President Asif Ali Zardari’s visit to Myanmar this week: the meeting with opposition leader Suu Kyi. It was a chance for the president to put his son and daughter in the limelight and offer himself as a democratic leader at par with Suu Kyi.

    This meeting was largely a public relations stunt by the government. Pakistan has no reason to meddle in the internal affairs of Myanmar. There is a suspicion that Mr. Zardari’s move to meet Suu Kyi was an attempt at reasserting the pro-American credentials of his government.

    While President Zardari’s effort to strengthen our ties to Myanmar is commendable, the Suu Kyi part of his visit was largely of no concern to Pakistanis.

    A far more important event during his stay in Myanmar was the President’s visit to the mausoleum of Bahadur Shah Zafar, the last emperor of the Mughal Dynasty. The dynasty fell at the hands of British army in 1857, signaling the downfall of Muslim rulers of South Asia, the ancestors of Pakistan. The capital of this dynasty was old Muslim Delhi, expanded today into New Delhi, the capital of India.

    The downfall of Muslim empire set off a chain of events that led to the Pakistan Independence Movement and culminated 90 years later with the emergence of Pakistan.

    IMPERIAL HISTORY

    President Zardari donated $50,000 for the upkeep of the mausoleum. The emperor died here, exiled by the British occupation.

    This gesture by the Pakistani president signifies an important fact of Pakistani history. And this is a good opportunity to remind our readers of this fact because it explains the genesis of Pakistani nationalism and the history of Pakistani nation.

    Understanding this history is key to understanding modern Pakistan.

    Modern Pakistan was born out of Mughal Empire in the same way that modern Turkey resulted from Ottoman empire and today’s Iran was a result of Safavid empire.

    Thus, Pakistan was not a chance happening, a result of British occupation. Instead, Pakistan is a culmination of ten centuries of Muslim empire in Central and South Asia.

    And Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah, the leader of Pakistan Independence Movement, was the legendary leader who hastened the emergence of Pakistan, a country that was bound to emerge eventually.

    JINNAH HASTENED PAKISTAN

    Pakistan is a nation that formed and gelled through ten centuries of imperial rule, culture and religion. It was destined to emerge. The Quaid made it happen in 1947.

    Pakistan was destined to emerge thanks to our history of a thousand years in this region. It was a matter of time. A destiny’s hand made it happen in 1947. That hand is Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah, leader of the Pakistan Independence Movement and the man who helped create modern Pakistan.

    Pakistan’s ancestors, the Muslim dynasties of Central and South Asia, ruled the region for centuries. This rule came to an abrupt end in 1857 at the hands of British invaders. But it only took us 90 years to regain our power to rule our destiny again; 90 years from 1857 to 1947, gaining independence from imperial Britain.

    Modern Pakistan could not claim all the former glory of its ancestors. Most of the dominion ruled by our ancestors, the last of them the Mughal Dynasty, went to Indians who were in the majority in those dominions. That is how India gained independence from Britain one day after Pakistan. India came into existence for the first time in ten centuries as a nation ruled by its indigenous majority, freeing itself from both Muslim and British rule.

    In Pakistan, 14 August 1947 marks the day when Pakistanis successfully ended British occupation and formalized their centuries-long history of successive empires in Central-South Asia. This history is credited at its peak with producing brilliant art and culture in three languages: Persian, Turkish and Arabic, and producing wonders such as the Taj Mahal, located in today's India, and other countless magnificent historic buildings that stand today in Pakistan.

    Pakistan is a long story that culminated in 1947 at the hands of a man chosen to do destiny’s work.

    Pakistani president’s visit to the mausoleum of the exiled last Moghul emperor in Myanmar was a tribute to this long Pakistani history.
     
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  3. civfanatic

    civfanatic Retired Moderator

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    Pakistani emperor ! :rofl:

    I do not think Bahadur Shah called himself that. Do you know his last words?

    Ghazion men bu rahegi jab talak iman ki, Takht-e-London tak chalegi tegh Hindustan ki!
     
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    Did Mughal Empire fell in 1857? :taunt:
    Any student of history would know that Nadir Shah's invasion of India was the death blow to Mughals who were already shivering under the weight of Maratha power . Murshid Kuli Khan declared independence from Mughals in 1740 and within a decade and a full century before 1857 Mughals were reduced effectively to an area around Delhi.
     
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    Bahadur Shah Zafar a Pakistani?

    What a joke!

    I lived in the house (palace, if you wish) where he was interned before being shipped to Burma!
     
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    Seriously ? :lol:

    Ok, on thinking twice it may be true..because most of the raping and taking of slaves by the Afghan ,Turk invaders were in areas of present day Pakistan

    So in a 'sense' they are indeed ancestors. ;)

    And this is reason why I absolutely loathe the "idealogy" of Pakistan and view it with suspicion. India, in their eyes, is the golden goose that managed to free itself and fly away and according to them India must return to its not-so-recent past when many parts of it were under Islamic rulers.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    This forum is not for those who want to reinvent history.

    Bahadur Shah Zaffar lived well before anything called Pakistan was even hallucinated about!

    In fact, those who hallucinated about Pakistan was not even born.

    So what is this thread all about?

    The only Emperors Pakistan has seen are Military Dictators or Failed Presidents who never had a chance to complete thier legitimate tenure!

    Their Fastest Emperor is Mr 10 %!!

    And what is Pakistan today?

    A total confusion of governance, terrorism, internecine sectarian violence and so on.

    Is that something an Emperor of the past like to associate with?
     
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    Thread title chaged. Should this be merged with the Jokes thread ? :laugh:
     
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    Mikkis,

    Wake up and smell the coffee.

    Bahadur Shah Zaffar is uncomfortable in his grave to be associated with such a chaos as Pakistan!
     
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    :rofl::hail:
     
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    sob Moderator Moderator

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    Let us get some better perspective of this reluctant emperor and a much better acclaimed poet


    लगता नहीं है जी मेरा उजड़े दयार में
    किसकी बनी है अालम-ए-नापायेदार में

    बुलबुल को पासबाँ से न सैयाद से गिला
    क़िस्मत में क़ैद लिखी थी फ़स्ल-ए-बहार में

    इन हसरतों से कह दो कहीं और जा बसें
    इतनी जगह कहाँ है दिल-ए-दाग़दार में

    इक शाख़-ए-गुल पे बैठ के बुलबुल है शादमाँ
    काँटे बिछा दिये हैं दिल-ए-लालाज़ार में

    उम्र-ए-दराज़ माँगके लाए थे चार दिन
    दो अारज़ू में कट गए, दो इन्तज़ार में

    दिन ज़िन्दगी के ख़त्म हुए शाम हो गई
    फैला के पाँव सोएँगे कुंज-ए-मज़ार में

    कितना है बदनसीब “ज़फ़र″ दफ़्न के लिए
    दो गज़ ज़मीन भी न मिली कू-ए-यार में

    lagtā nahīń hé jī mérā ūjař'é dayār méń
    kiskī banī hé ālam-e-nā-pāyedār méń

    būlbūl ko pāsbāń se na saiyyād se gilā
    qismet méń qaid likhī tthī fasl-e-bahār méń

    kaeh do in hassretoń se kahīń aur jā bas'éń
    itnī jageh kahāń hé dil-e-dāGhdār méń

    ik shāKh-e-gūl pe baiTh ke būlbūl hé shādmāń
    kānTe bichā diye héń dil-e-lālāzār méń

    umr-e-darāz māńg ke lāye tthe chār din
    do ārzū méń kaT gayé do intezār méń

    din zindagī ke Khatm hué shām ho gayī
    p'hailā ke pāoń soyeń-ge kūńj-e-mazaar méń

    kitnā hé bad-naseeb zafar dafn ke liye
    do gaz zamīn bhī na milī kū-e-yār méń
    My heart has no repose in this despoiled land
    Who has ever felt fulfilled in this futile world?

    The nightingale complains about neither the sentinel nor the hunter
    Fate had decreed imprisonment during the harvest of spring

    Tell these longings to go dwell elsewhere
    What space is there for them in this besmirched heart?

    Sitting on a branch of flowers, the nightingale rejoices
    It has strewn thorns in the garden of my heart

    I asked for a long life, I received four days
    Two passed in desire, two in waiting.

    The days of life are over, evening has fallen
    I shall sleep, legs outstretched, in my tomb

    How unfortunate is Zafar! For his burial
    Not even two yards of land were to be had, in the land of his beloved.[18]
     
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    By the way this seems to be from a blog by PakNationalist who was permanently kicked out.
     
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    what a load of rubbish. people with mughal ancestory even today are more in India than in pakistan. Namely in delhi,up,bihar and deccan region.

    even in the last days of the mughal empire present day pakistan wasn't even mughal rule...it was under sikh rule.

    pakis are without history and ironically without any future either :rofl:
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    And where did the Nawab of Oudh be sent by the British?

    Pakistani are gripped in a world of such delusion!

    Pity them.

    Don't make fun of them.

    They deserve all the pity available in the world!
     
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    Lol no. That teen is not mentally capable of such long verbose posts. It is maintained by Ahmad Qureshi (aka Christina Palmer)
     
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    nrj Stars and Ambassadors Stars and Ambassadors

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    Pakistanis are brainwashed through propaganda textbooks. They've internet to learn the truth but they are too busy with porn to learn anything.

    What's next? Bajirao Peshwa was a Pakistani emperor who won entire Hindustan ?? :rofl:
     
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    i was thinking to write something on mikkis paha thread for 15 min but could not get right words to write after all mikki darling has visit us after long time :tsk::tsk::tsk:


    Last i also heard Tipu sultan also said " pakistan zinda -bhag" aur pakistan bhag gaya india se:taunt:
     
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    History of Pakistan starts from 1947........................................ before that it has no history.

    BTW Mikkis if you can read English then please read this.
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    कितना है बदनसीब “ज़फ़र″ दफ़्न के लिए
    दो गज़ ज़मीन भी न मिली कू-ए-यार में

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    i read some place that Indian soil is kept at his grave.
     
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    mikki darling article reminds me of one person


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    Pakdelusionists would be more ideal than Paknationalists
     

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