Army officers clash with cops over senior’s arrest

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    Army officers clash with cops over senior’s arrest | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis
     
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    They are not fit to serve the armed forces with such monstrous ego that they undermine the civilian authority and therefore a court martial proceeding should be initiated against all of them.Further criminal proceeding should be initiated by the civil courts with stringent penal term.


    In the army discipline is paramount where reporting even 1 day late carries punishment and this is a very very serve offence.
     
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    sgarg Senior Member Senior Member

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    NDA recruitment procedure is seriously flawed. The entire military structure of India is flawed and needs revision and reforms. The shortage of officers is an artificial shortage created by flawed recruitment policies of the military. These officers are not being groomed correctly as gentleman officers who can deal properly with civilians. Compartmentalization of military is a very serious flaw that can have very negative consequences for the country.

    India needs some form of draft. India needs a large military backup in civilian population. The bond between civil society and military needs to strengthen. This collusion of corrupt politicians, civil servants, and military officers need to be broken that is eating this country from inside like termites. The military force and society must supplement and complement each other if India is to become successful.
     
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    I agree, having a large standing army alone is not going to guarantee national security, we need civilians to step in (Reserves). If an army officer has the mistaken notion of being the only saviour of the "humble civilians" then he/she is greatly mistaken. It was not the military but the civilians of the country who fought for independence and got it, while those in uniform kept licking the white butt.

    Nobody is above the law of the land, not even these army men and we must make an example of them, these people are not fit to serve.
     
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    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    @sgarg and @DingDong, both of you made interesting observations.

    It is true that in many countries, revolutions and civil wars have shaped the history and direction of the entire nation, and those struggles were carried out by both, trained combatants and civilians who took up arms. It is time to shake up this compartmentalization between civilian and military. Considering the number of people who lose their lives in the Mumbai suburban railway, it is debatable whether combatants face a greater threat to life than civilians, at least in India. Everybody serves the nation, and everybody should be part of serving the armed forces, even if it means one year mandatory participation in the reserved forces. NCC is a good example, that could be modified into some kind of draft for all Indians.
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Report is half truth, Must not get quick conclusions ..
     
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    Ankit Purohit Senior Member Senior Member

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    Coin Has two Sides ,Tali Ek Hath Se nahi Bajti dosto,

    Well Happy Army Day.
     
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    Blackwater Veteran Member Veteran Member

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    Even if this report that army officer parked his vehicle in front of police station gate blocking them enough proof of his arrogance and indiscipline
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Vehicle is not private ..

     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Uninformed garbage.

    The very fact that such things are happening shows how the self restrain and prestige of being a uniformed force is being lost on the uniformed personnel. It all because of too much of the unruly attitude of the civil society of taking law into one's own hand is creeping in ever since egalitarian profile has been given prominence.

    The media loosely uses the word 'officer' and 'jawan' most loosely, wherein the public at large is given to believe that 'officer' is a 'commissioned officer' and 'jawan' is an Army soldier.

    There is a difference between a commissioned officer and a JCO. And jawan which normally was used for the Army soldier is now universally applied to all from the various security forces.

    In the instant case, the 'officer' is actually a JCO.

    A JCO comes from the rank and file and he represents the archetypal of the egalitarian dream of @sgarg. So that much for egalitarianism and merging the societal blur.

    Notwithstanding, strict action should be taken.

    The egalitarian rot is spreading, thanks to the clamour of people like @sgarg that the military should become more of a Peoples Army and not stand aloof from the rough and tumble of society that is going from bad to worse.

    if that is to be the watchword, then these incidents will become more frequent, more so when folks with such mentality enter the officer class, which they have already entered in scores.
     
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    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    They should be court martialled off! Such men are disgrace to the Indian Army.
     
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    I would not jump to conclusions so soon.
    I have been to police station a few times because I was the president of my society and we had to raise a few cases.
    The police are almost always arrogant and unnecessarily aggressive.
    The no parking in front is informed only after you park and go in and there is usually no board informing visitors.

    Given my prejudice, I'd be on the army's side on this one.
     
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    Dark Sorrow Respected Member Senior Member

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    Because it is assumed that everyone knows that.
     
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    When army men attacks police personell then it is matter of indescipline and shame to the whole army and nation.But when some one from Kashmir or NE dies in army cuustody or in fake encounters then that is a matter of national security and everyone whitewashes such act by telling that such flaws happen every where..huh..#hypocracy..:p
     
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    Enemies of the state don't have the right to seek justice from the state. And yes such deaths are totally acceptable.
     
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    Being a person residing near cochin i had came across few instances where naval personell had attacked police station near naval base in similar ways in retaliation for arresting their buddys for their misbehaviour.
    Any way that sort of camaraderie couldn't be found anywhere else in any other govt.department be it state police or paramilitary.Thats a good thing. :)
     
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    Are you sure all those men and women and children killed by army were terrorists?If your answer is Yes,then i dont have a reply for idiots like you..:/
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    More details need to come out. :confused:

    Read in news(HT/TOI not sure) that there were complaints against this Police Station due to their arrogant and high handedness on people coming with complaints. :hmm:
     
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    Read it in the newspaper that 18 men were arrested.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    As per the highway rules road signs are a MUST.

    There is nothing like assumed.

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