Apache & Chinook deal finally in sight?

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  1. right wing

    right wing Regular Member

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    Compersion Senior Member Senior Member

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    The North-East would be ideal to have such assets. But the numbers seem too low perhaps it is a "trial" and even "knowledge-management" exercise.

    It would work both ways where USA gets access and able to demonstrate capability (in many ways).
     
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    Immanuel Senior Member Senior Member

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    I think 3 sqds for IA of Apache and 1 for IAF is good. They should ensure to get all of them with the Long Bow radar. With this radar + ability to control UAVs (hopefully local UAVs by the time they arrive in India), Apaches will become air-borne command centers for other LCH and Rudra sqds. Hence IA would need around 45 while IAF will have 22. IN should also order these since block 3 apache is capable of marine usage, would be ideal in commanding Anti sub sqds and aphibious ops.
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Numbers are well fine, Remember we are importing and these cost alot unless we are ready to sacrifice other part of defense which is not a solution ..

    LCH will form the bulk of IA gunship fleet where as AH-64 are excellent platform for command and control ..
     
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    CemmiiLL Regular Member

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    sounds like this would be really good for India

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    Senior_Miguel Regular Member

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    So they (LCH and AH64E) will need common avionic suit, won't they?
     
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    p2prada Stars and Ambassadors Stars and Ambassadors

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    He doesn't know what he is talking about.

    And no, LCH and Apache won't have a common avionics suite. LCH's avionics are Indian.
     
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    edited.

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    Apollyon Führer Senior Member

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    LCH will have commonality with the Dhruv WSI or Mk4

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    Senior_Miguel Regular Member

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    Ok, thanks for explanation. But I suppose that Apache will at least have common FoF transponders?
     
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    p2prada Stars and Ambassadors Stars and Ambassadors

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    We haven't signed the CISMOA with the Americans. So, datalinks, FoF, radios etc will be Indian. It is the same with P-8I.
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Not entirely, In Indian Armed forces specially in Army there are many different origin of equipment work in a close network specially in intelligence and early warning systems, But these are modified so can be coordinate together by tactical HQ in an area ..

    When such a system like AH-64 in a strike group working with other helos which it has to be working with like recon helo Dhruv, Light recon and attack helo Rudra and Light Attack Helo, It cannot work without coordinating with others, Its basic knowledge ..

     
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    Apaches can act as air-borne command with the mix of LCH ,RUDRA and Dhruv in its fleet...
    With this Indian army will have its own fleet of Apaches which will be a great asset for ground troops ....

    Some one said they would not be able to make a good combo as they dont have common avionics suite but its thats the case then there are can no Combo arrangement anywhere in the world yes some modification changes will need to be done to bring them in Sync with each other.... but thats feasible with one way or another.... Dont have much idea about the ways but i m sure that avionics can eb modified specially with LCH RUDRA and Dhruv as they are our own production...


    The numbers right now being suggested appear to be pretty good and the numbers can be increased if required but It should not come at the cost of cutting done LCH or RUDRA .....

    LCH and Rudra and specially designed for Indian conditions and they suite our requirements as well....
    With Dhruv we have tested and tried it quite extensively and even Rudra is doing well with the forces....
    Surely LCH will live up to expectations....

    Army Aviation Corps is already made up of Rudra and LCH being part of them and under order...
    So ordering few more will make more sense....
    We will be able to induct them parally in good numbers in that case.....
     
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    It's cleared , formality of signing will de done in Washington in sept when modi will meet Obama
     
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    http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...illion-choppers-from-us/article1-1391457.aspx

    Ahead of Modi's visit, India set to buy choppers worth $3bn from US
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    The finance ministry has finally given a green signal to acquisition of 22 Apache attack and 15 Chinook heavy deployment helicopters worth $3.1 billion from US defence major Boeing after a delay of nearly three years and 13 price extensions.


    The deal is expected to cleared by the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) next Tuesday, before Prime Minister Narendra Modi embarks on his United Nations General Assembly visit to New York.

    With Boeing and US Army Security Assistance Command threatening to escalate the price after September 30 by nearly 40% after holding it steady since 2009, finance minister Arun Jaitley, defence minister Manohar Parrikar and National Security Advisor Ajit Doval put their heads together this week.

    “We have conveyed our no objections to the deal being considered by the CCS,” said a senior finance ministry official.

    India plans to purchase 22 Apache AH 64D Longbow helicopters with purchase option of another 11 at the cost of $2 billion. This state-of-the-art attack helicopter will be acquired with Hell Fire missiles and around 8,000 rockets.

    The helicopter has night vision capability, stealth characteristics and beyond visual range missiles.

    Apart from this, India will acquire 15 CH-47 Chinook helicopters with options of another six at the cost of $1.1 billion. A twin-rotor helicopter, Chinook has proved its worth in US operations in Afghanistan and Iraq and will be used by Indian Air Force for rapid insertion of troops in high altitude areas.

    India has vintage attack and heavy deployment helicopters only on paper.

    The acquisition process of the two helicopters was started in 2009 and was expected to be completed by December 2012. However, due to bureaucratic delays both in the defence ministry and finance ministry, the acquisition has been virtually hanging fire since 2013, following completion of all negotiations.




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    At the looooong last.
     
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    jackprince Turning into a frog Senior Member

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    Btw, guys, do you know that we are not going to get Apache Longbow 64Ds? We are not getting the D version.





    ......we are getting the E version. The new mod that we tested and approved used to be called 64D Block-III, has now been renamed as Apache 64E Guardian. :) The newsies hasn't caught up with this nugget yet, may be some of you are. At least I didn't.

    Apache 64E Guardian. Like the name.
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    BC... I am fed up of this forever going procurement process specially when we got the $$$ to buy.

    Put a bambo up the ass of this bureaucracy which compromise our security needs. :gtfo:
     
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    great news. . but india should assure its traditional buyer russia on this front because russians are not very happy with this deal
     

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