Alex Salmond slams UK decision on visa of 2 Chinese teachers

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    Alex Salmond slams UK decision on visa of 2 Chinese teachers - FT.com


    Scotland’s first minister, has warned that a “ridiculous” UK decision to refuse visas to two Chinese teachers could jeopardise the recent improvement in relations with China.

    The Home Office, which oversees UK immigration policy, recently refused to renew the visas of two Mandarin teachers from China who had already spent a year working in Scotland as part of a Confucius Institute programme.

    Speaking in Hong Kong after a visit to Beijing, Alex Salmond said the UK should avoid antagonising China with a decision that was “indescribable foolishness”.

    “I don’t think the UK now is in a position to cause needless offence in China,” said Mr Salmond.

    Mr Salmond was leading a delegation of 30 Scottish companies to China to promote exports including salmon and whisky.

    Senior Chinese officials had until recently refused to see their British counterparts because Prime Minister David Cameron met the Dalai Lama in May 2012. But the ice was broken last month when George Osborne, UK chancellor, and Boris Johnson, London mayor, visited China.

    Mr Salmond’s comments on UK immigration policy come as Scottish voters prepare to vote next year on independence.

    Ahead of a meeting with Hanban, the arm of the Chinese education ministry that runs the Confucius Institute, Mr Salmond asked Mr Cameron to reverse the visa decision.

    “How do you suggest I explain this ridiculous policy? Kindly reverse it,” Mr Salmond wrote to Mr Cameron in a letter obtained by the Financial Times.

    In an interview, Mr Salmond said the UK risked offending China. He said the Chinese government welcomed his stance, but said the question did not come up in a meeting with Yang Jiechi, the top Chinese official for foreign policy.

    “Clearly if you start refusing visas to Confucius instructors, this is very offensive,” said Mr Salmond.” How would you feel if you were Hanban, and you were financing a programme that is welcomed and endorsed, and find that people are refused visas?”

    Last week, Mr Salmond wrote to Theresa May, UK home secretary, to complain about the decision, which he has described as “sabotage”.

    Arguing the question of visas could damage relations with Beijing, Mr Salmond said “some elements in the UK government believe that you engage in a relationship with China by having high value Chinese tourists spend lots of your money in your economy and they think you can separate this thing from issues like educational visas, [but] you can’t”.

    Mr Salmond said Scotland would implement a more liberal immigration policy than the current UK government if it became independent and would create a “green card” system that would give foreign students educated in the country the automatic ability to work for a “sustained period of time”.
    "Clearly if you start refusing visas to Confucius instructors, this is very offensive"

    - Alex Salmond

    The UK last month relaxed visa rules for Chinese tourists, following complaints from retailers that they were losing business to shops in other European capitals.

    In Beijing, Mr Salmond met executives from two big energy companies, Cnooc and Sinopec, to promote investment in Scotland.

    He said Scottish exports to China had grown 88 per cent since his first visit five years ago. He added that salmon exports had risen from zero to £20m over the past two years.

    Mr Salmond said Scottish whisky sales were also growing well in China, but refused to comment on the impact of an austerity campaign launched by Chinese president Xi Jinping this year.

    “The market is growing but . . .  [it] is not the same growth that it was last year. But I don’t think any Scottish distiller would say that they are feeling the pinch at this present moment.”

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    Can people from the "free" world explain why these two Chinese teachers' visa are denied by UK?
     
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    t_co Senior Member Senior Member

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    Why is India not supporting Scottish independence as vociferously as it does Tibetan independence?

    Given India's historical legacy of being the first large nation to peacefully rid itself of British colonialism, India should be pushing the mantle of Scottish independence pretty hard. Maybe the next time Cameron visits and refuses to apologize for the massacres of the Raj, the GoI can issue a statement of friendship for the Scottish devolutionists.
     
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    PRC ought to be alert to the political sensitivity inside PRC and PRC areas over the coming discussion about independence referendum in which the Scottish people will vote on whether to end their political union with the United Kingdom after more than 300 years.

    Are people from PRC able to discuss the origin and reasons for Scottish Independence and also Scottish independence referendum and why it wont apply to PRC and PRC regions - Hong Kong, Taiwan and Tibet. Can PRC people explain the principle behind Scottish Independence and devolution from UK.

    Will England wage war on Scotland to prevent it from talking about Scottish Independence and devolution.

    The British are going through self-determination exercise that is more at risk in a Unitary system compared to a Federal Structure.

    PRC is a unitary state. India is a federal state. UK is a unitary state.

    If the Scottish independence referendum is held it will be determined by the people. The British are mature enough and know that it is okay to talk about such things in the public it is a democratic process. I wont be surprised if UK moves more to a federal structure later. UK also know they can talk openly with India about such things. Nothing to be ashamed about. Obliviously the UK will try to convince the Scottish people not to go down that road but that would be through talks and not through threats and war. There is no such sensitivity from London.

    In PRC what is the purpose for such comments by Alex Salmond. Is it only about money.

    Also what India says to PRC about Tibet is the same that UK says about Tibet.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Because there is no violence and it is being done in a peaceful and constitutional way.
     
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    we insted sappot tibetan cause ha ha lolzzzzz
     
  7. roma

    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    why do you interfere in our EXCELLENT relations with britain ? jealous ?

    whether scotland chooses to be independent or not is their internal affair
    sure we dont aggree on everything - even husband and wife dont
    but they are visiting us often and we re talking at an excellent level
    jealous ?

    btw besides the colonial territories
    of tibet, turkestan and inner mongolia,
    even the yunnan reagion "of china" is
    stolen territory

    it was stolen from burma and thailand
    ---- the people there are certainly not han chinese
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Here is the proof of the pudding!

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