After China's NSG Snub, How Should India Retaliate?

[Indx TechStyle]

That is Modi's PR skill.

The reality is different. Let me clear this story for you ............ (but I am afraid, tarunraju will find it as he-said-she-said )

Anyway, back on topic.

Modi govt said they got new definition of nonalignment.

And stay on both side is the main and key point in it.

Now, lets check the ground reality.

On one side India become full and permanent member of Chinese military block.

On other side, India not happy to become full and permanent member of US military block.

Btw, typical mindset of yours.
You said Chinese military block and Yankee petdog.

Why do you say India not happy with US block?
Does only LSA decides relations)which harms sovereignty?
Though we didn't argue with commies because they didn't come up with any LEMoA like agreement.
Nothing else.
BTW,
Can you provide me proof of ground reality that we aren't happy?
You have destroyed yourself in your post.
For using Yankee petdog for Americans and not any slang for Chinese, don't misunderstand about an anti commie like me.
I had no words, but I can again use slurs for chicommies if you want.

Unlike you American paid lobbyist on DFI, I'm neither in love with white pigs of west nor with commies.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Iam 200% sure he is aiming for Nobel peace prize

Though 200% probability doesn't exist in at least in the Universe where India is(don't know about Germans who taught you do).
But what do you gonna do if your prediction shatters pathetically?

 

[Screambowl]

Though 200% probability doesn't exist in at least in the Universe where India is(don't know about Germans who taught you do).
But what do you gonna do if your prediction shatters pathetically?

200% happens when
An increase of 100% in a quantity means that the final amount is 200% of the initial amount (100% of initial + 100% of increase = 200% of initial

he is on the same foot holds as of Indira Gandhi but with US this time. But less shrewd

 

[HariPrasad-1]

What will retaliation against the Chinese solve? It will only lead to hardening of their position. Nevertheless, China is not the only country opposing India, there are others that voted against India as well. Should India retaliate against them too?

No, India should double their diplomatic efforts.



Great idea. China's is a regional hegemon. It's neighbors live in fear. India should build bridges to such countries.

Dr swamy was saying that they (China) do not say but they are highly annoyed from the friendship with Japan.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

200% happens when
An increase of 100% in a quantity means that the final amount is 200% of the initial amount (100% of initial + 100% of increase = 200% of initial

he is on the same foot holds as of Indira Gandhi but with US this time. But less shrewd

But in diplomatic relations, you can't even get 100%, leave alone extra.
For comparing Modern India with India of 70s, today's India is far far more capable.

 

[Screambowl]

But in diplomatic relations, you can't even get 100%, leave alone extra.
For comparing Modern India with India of 70s, today's India is far far more capable.

obama got nobel piece prize and every leader aims for this. This is why there are possibilities that Modi might try for this. India PM will definitely not get fighting with Pak.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

obama got nobel piece prize and every leader aims for this. This is why there are possibilities that Modi might try for this. India PM will definitely not get fighting with Pak.

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[Screambowl]

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[praneet.bajpaie]

http://www.business-standard.com/ar...-west-chinese-state-media-116062800299_1.html


Man the chinks are really getting on my nerves now

 

[G10]

Gandhiji started the movement of burning british clothes. Similar movement is needed to get rid of chinese products. It has to be done by people not government.

 

[Bharat Ek Khoj]

obama got nobel piece prize and every leader aims for this.

This is the exact reason i find nobel prize ****. Nobel peace prize for killing millions in middle east.

 

[curryman]

Dr swamy was saying that they (China) do not say but they are highly annoyed from the friendship with Japan.

Good. Not only should India deepen its relations with Japan, but it should also start reaching out to Taiwan. Just to annoy the Chinese. :biggrin2:

 

[Screambowl]

Gandhiji started the movement of burning british clothes. Similar movement is needed to get rid of chinese products. It has to be done by people not government.

what will substitute chinese goods? If India was producing something then one may start a boycott but what are we producing in large scale to meet the demand.

 

[rock127]

Gandhiji started the movement of burning british clothes. Similar movement is needed to get rid of chinese products. It has to be done by people not government.

We don't need to burn/destroy Chinese products and forget Gandhian theories in todays age specially with China.

Just increase the trade deficit since it's getting in favor of Chinese.We need to be strong since China understand only this language.

Problem is also in the mindset of lot of Indians who would easily afford Indian products but STILL go for Chinese products.For example Mobile/Laptops.I always avoid Chinese product and pay a bit more for Indian product so the money stays in our economy.

 

[no smoking]

Good. Not only should India deepen its relations with Japan, but it should also start reaching out to Taiwan. Just to annoy the Chinese. :biggrin2:

Chinese couldn't care less.
There are 2 things Japanese and Taiwanese want, 2 things only: economic benefit and security guarantee.
Economically, they need another country or territory providing cheap labours and large market. India is a potential choice in competition against South Eastern countries not China;
Militarily, they simply don't believe India's capability and determination to provide the kind of guarantee they need.

 

[Yumdoot]

Enjoy the roasted chinese chicken.
http://indianexpress.com/article/in...inese-daily-on-international-affairs-2881044/
['QUOTE]
India’s nationalists should learn how to behave themselves: China media on international affairs
Launching a harsh attack on Indian public and the country's media, the editorial called India a 'spoiled' and 'smug' nation especially in international affairs.

By: Express Web Desk | New Delhi | Updated: June 28, 2016 8:08 pm

Global Times, a national English-language daily in China, Tuesday published a strongly-worded editorial defending China’s position on the entry of India and other non-NPT countries into the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG).

<snip>

“Since its foundation in 1975, all NSG members shall be NPT signatories. This has become the primary principle of the organization. Now India wants to be the first exception to join the NSG without signing the NPT. It is morally legitimate for China and other members to upset India’s proposal in defense of principles,” it said.

<snip>

Finally lashing out at the nationalists in India and the public reaction to China blocking India’s NSG bid, the editorial said Indians need to learn to ‘behave’.

“Some Indians are too self-centered and self-righteous. On the contrary, the Indian government behaves decently and is willing to communicate. Throwing a tantrum won’t be an option for New Delhi,” it said.
['/QUOTE]

 

[Bahamut]

That is Modi's PR skill.

The reality is different. Let me clear this story for you ............ (but I am afraid, tarunraju will find it as he-said-she-said )

Anyway, back on topic.

Modi govt said they got new definition of nonalignment.

And stay on both side is the main and key point in it.

Now, lets check the ground reality.

On one side India become full and permanent member of Chinese military block.

On other side, India not happy to become full and permanent member of US military block.

Btw, typical mindset of yours.
You said Chinese military block and Yankee petdog.

We signed SCO treaty because of its Infracture program and a joint command to fight for terrorism.

 

[BackBencher]

cool video, Must watch

 

[Srinivas_K]

India's NSG bid: China says 'no country can put itself opposite NPT'

BEIJING: Amid India's assertion that it will not sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) to gain entry into NSG, an adamant China on Thursday said "no country should or can put itself opposite the NPT".

"We have repeatedly stated our position on the accession of non-NPT countries into the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG)," Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Lu Kang said here, reacting to External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj's statement in the Lok Sabha+ on Wednesday that India will not sign the NPT.

"It is worth mentioning that China does not make the rules for how to become new members of the group. The international community has forged a consensus long ago that the NPT is the cornerstone of the international non-proliferation regime. No country should or can put itself opposite to the NPT," Lu said.

Swaraj had said India is engaging with China to iron out differences after Beijing created "procedural hurdles" for its entry into the 48-member NSG but made it clear that government will never ink NPT, which only recognises five countries — the US, Russia, the UK, France and China — as nuclear weapon states.

Swaraj said China had raised questions+ over how a non-NPT signatory could become a member of the NSG.

"But we are engaging with it. We have not stopped efforts. If someone says 'no' for once, it does not mean he won't agree at all," she said.

Beijing in the past has insisted on consensus over the entry of new members into grouping after majority of the nuclear trading club backed India's case.

In a setback to India's efforts to join the grouping, the NSG plenary held in South Korea last month decided against accepting the country's membership application after China and some other nations opposed entry of a non-NPT signatory.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-itself-opposite-NPT/articleshow/53326798.cms

China should not make fool out of itself, the NSG group is planning to remove the hurdles for non NPT members to join the group.

India is a nuclear power and we are not ready to downgrade our status and acknowledge that only few five countries are privileged to be called as nuclear powers. This treaty is a result of the hypocrisy of the USA who targeted India and denied us the nuclear status. Now things have changed.

 

[roma]

India's NSG bid: China says 'no country can put itself opposite NPT'

BEIJING: Amid India's assertion that it will not sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) to gain entry into NSG, an adamant China on Thursday said "no country should or can put itself opposite the NPT".

"We have repeatedly stated our position on the accession of non-NPT countries into the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG)," Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Lu Kang said here, reacting to External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj's statement in the Lok Sabha+ on Wednesday that India will not sign the NPT.

"It is worth mentioning that China does not make the rules for how to become new members of the group. The international community has forged a consensus long ago that the NPT is the cornerstone of the international non-proliferation regime. No country should or can put itself opposite to the NPT," Lu said.

Swaraj had said India is engaging with China to iron out differences after Beijing created "procedural hurdles" for its entry into the 48-member NSG but made it clear that government will never ink NPT, which only recognises five countries — the US, Russia, the UK, France and China — as nuclear weapon states.

Swaraj said China had raised questions+ over how a non-NPT signatory could become a member of the NSG.

"But we are engaging with it. We have not stopped efforts. If someone says 'no' for once, it does not mean he won't agree at all," she said.

Beijing in the past has insisted on consensus over the entry of new members into grouping after majority of the nuclear trading club backed India's case.

In a setback to India's efforts to join the grouping, the NSG plenary held in South Korea last month decided against accepting the country's membership application after China and some other nations opposed entry of a non-NPT signatory.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-itself-opposite-NPT/articleshow/53326798.cms

China should not make fool out of itself, the NSG group is planning to remove the hurdles for non NPT members to join the group.

India is a nuclear power and we are not ready to downgrade our status and acknowledge that only few five countries are privileged to be called as nuclear powers. This treaty is a result of the hypocrisy of the USA who targeted India and denied us the nuclear status. Now things have changed.

i think india should conduct a deliberate diplomatic campaign to ask the UN countries what is prcchina's record vis a vis proliferating nukes to both pakistan and north korea and perhaps also to libya as well

should there be one rule for china and another for india which has never given any nuke tech to anyone ?

understandably the UPA governments of the past have been sleeping on this issue but i hope the Modi administration will take up the issue

Modi has had the guts to say that we have not just one problem with prcchina but hundreds ( something to that effect ) ...so that gives me hope that he and his people might take up the matter of the deliberate diplomatic campaign which i have suggested.

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