Afghan withdrawal will not mean central role for Pak

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  1. nrj

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    The Obama administration has assured India that the withdrawal of its troops from Afghanistan does not mean Pakistan will now have a central role in that war-ravaged country and call the shots vis-a-vis reconciliation between the Kabul government and the Taliban.

    United States lawmakers who have recently met with senior Indian officials said Indian decision-makers have become discomfited by signs that the US and its allies preparing to leave Afghanistan would necessarily provide a central role for Pakistan at a time when New Delhi wished to limit Islamabad's influence in a post-war Afghanistan.

    Assistant Secretary of State for South Asian Affairs Robert Blake, told lawmakers that concerns by India were unfounded and noted that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during her recent trip to New Delhi had assured them that the US-Afghanistan strategic agreement wouldn't allow for such a central Pakistan role.

    Blake said, "The Indians were very reassured by that -- reassured by the long-term commitment that we are demonstrating to Afghanistan, and indeed, the Indian themselves are doing a lot to show their own long-term commitment."

    "They have a $2 billion assistance programme," he said, and noted, "they have recently invested in a very large iron-ore project -- it's a multi-billion iron-ore project -- where they will not only be investing in that but also associate infrastructure."

    Blake said, "We really see India as a linchpin," of the future growth of Afghanistan and the region, "because they are going to be the largest market in the region. So, they are really so important to development in a lot of these regional projects like the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan/-India gas pipeline and many other things like that."

    "And, of course," he added, "they have been making a lot of progress with Pakistan on the bilateral trade side, which is very important to this vision," of trade.

    Blake said, "If we are going to create a trade-based economy in Afghanistan, a very important part of that would be to open up those trade routes to India."

    He also sought to alleviate the concern of lawmakers that China's recent muscular stance toward India -- as some Indian pundits had opined -- was a direct result of the growing US-India strategic partnership and recent trilateral partnerships that Beijing perhaps perceived was geared toward its containment.

    Blake said, "Both the United States and India have continuously stressed that our expanded strategic engagement is not coming at the expense of China and that neither one of us are seeking to contain China."

    "On the contrary, both of us, are seeking to engage China, wherever possible," he said.

    Blake also noted that "Another important factor is that Sino-Indian trade has grown very fast and so that has given both of those countries an enormous stake in each other's success and has helped to give them an incentive to work through some of the very tough border and other issues that they have."

    Thus, he argued, "Both of our countries are going to continue to try to engage China –to be clear when we have differences, but also to look for opportunities where we can work together."

    Blake disclosed that "we've actually proposed a trilateral US-China-India dialogue and I think the Chinese are seriously considering that now."

    "We hope that they will agree to that and one of the most interesting early topics for discussion would be Afghanistan, because we believe there are ways that we can work together in that country," he said.

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    Opening up trade routes to India? Now there's a separate thread going on India dumping Iran, which may result in closure of India's gateway to Afghanistan or saying byebye to iron ore projects etc..

    Thanks to its connections with Taliban, Pakistan will again make inroads to Afg. as its strategic depth.

    Face the musique, India!
     
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    India dumping Iran is a myth & I don't need to question assessment of Bhadrakumar separately.

    Some excellent posts have been made in that thread including that of Tronic.
     
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    You have no clue what you are talking about, this is the result of decades of CCP brainwashing!

    Do you even understand the ethnic demography and dynamics of Afghanistan?

    Firstly, Taliban is not a single entity. Taliban is a loose term used by Americans to identify anti-American Afghans. The so called Taliban consists of many factions, ethnicity and tribes, and majority is Anti-American and Pakistan. Only, Hikmatyar and Haqqanis are in the pockets of paki isi (that too due to American Dollars), and they believe they can leverage them against US, NATO, Russia and India. Infact they have been proven wrong on many occasions. You forget Baloch, Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Hazaras - who are dead against Pashtun dominated Taliban and will never support anyone who supports the Talibs! Moreover, majority of Talibs would love to kill pakis for leisure activities and they are exactly doing that!

    Secondly, the Mehsuds, Waziris, other tribes from Bannu, North and South of NWFP desist Al-Qaida and paki punjabi dominance. Hence, they have been butchering your paki friends and spiking their heads on wooden sticks; even Chinese have been targeted, due to which, China has no presence in FATA/NWFP unlike GB!

    Thirdly, the warlords such as Haqqanis and Hikmatyars know very well that - when US pulls back Dollar doles, the paki bast@$#% army will go bankrupt and they will be remotely targeted by every tom dick and harry in the region be it - Iran, Tajiks and India et al. Above all these warloards will loose out the loyalty of their mercs and the leadership will get targeted by their own mercs for mollah! China can never dole out Billions to maintain terrorist safe heavens in land of the pure. The Risks are too high (not monetary risks) but Real and Geo Political risks!!

    Finally, paki is in-itself unstable and Afghan nationalist will make sure that wretched paki are bogged down for good. US knows very well that attacks on US troops are fomented by isi and they will eventually have to kick their lower back even if they do not remain in Afghanistan (recent OBL episode and killing of paksiatni rangers in broad day light are few examples to start with).

    Shameless and bigoted pakis never had strategic depth and can never have it! However, they will soon have strategic depth in Balochistan and Pashtoonistan the way they had strategic depth in East pakistan!
     
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