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China is too weak to exert military force outside of its borders. France goes trampling Chinese interests all over the Dark Continent and all CCP does is whine about it.
really? have u recoved from debt crise my white guy friend? pls ask ur european friends not to ask PRC to help u and we ve refused already.

what interests? how much u got and how much we lost? for good??.......like when our real french friends getting their asses kicked out after ww2 from the dark continent? that hurt didnt it?
 

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really? have u recoved from debt crise my white guy friend? pls ask ur european friends not to ask PRC to help u and we ve refused already.
Really? I didn't know there was an F in PIGS. Now, China's debt problem is worse than Greece with over $9.6 trillion in debt.

what interests? how much u got and how much we lost? for good??.......like when our real french friends getting their asses kicked out after ww2 from the dark continent? that hurt didnt it?
Ivory Coast, Libya, S. Sudan... then there are plenty of China's own making.
 

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worse than Greece? so we didnt ask white guys for money to slove our debt crisis........that really makes sense....

yes u can add all the country names....u can even go the US....india.....etc etc......and china lost 100000 trillion dollars coz of france...
 

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coz of european debt crisis....

indeed france has been messing with us....pls get recoved asap........we need u so bad........
 

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worse than Greece? so we didnt ask white guys for money to slove our debt crisis........that really makes sense....

yes u can add all the country names....u can even go the US....india.....etc etc......and china lost 100000 trillion dollars coz of france...
What's white guys?

Could that be racist? ;)

Or is assembly line people a racist term?

In anyone's book, that's racist.
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http://defenceforumindia.com/china/31040-chinese-language-different-dialects-4.html#post409450

J20! what say you?
 
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Let them first learn 'Dharma'.

After all Buddhism has been prevalent in China for a long time!
 

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the GDP of Chinese Guangdong province is about 0.8 trillion USD and its nominal Growth is usually 15%+(real growth+appreciation+inflation)

France GDP is about 2.5 trillion USD.

soon, we will see how GDP of France is being caught up with by Chinese Guangdong province
 

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What could be the way for a turnaround of this problem?

I am sure that this is only temporary.

Does it have any long term consequences?
A subrprime crisis in Guangdong would be catastrophic being the economic hub of China. They can't move property to raise revenue and the largest tranche of the 2008 crisis loans are due in 2012. Now is the time they need to raise the most money and there has been a total collapse in sales. They depend on PBOC to loan money so they can keep debt service payments, now that is cut off too. We are going to start seeing mass bankruptcies in the notorious LGIVs we have all heard about. The result of that is a bankrupt local government.
 
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A subrprime crisis in Guangdong would be catastrophic being the economic hub of China. They can't move property to raise revenue and the largest tranche of the 2008 crisis loans are due in 2012. Now is the time they need to raise the most money and there has been a total collapse in sales. They depend on PBOC to loan money so they can keep debt service payments, now that is cut off too. We are going to start seeing mass bankruptcies in the notorious LGIVs we have all heard about. The result of that is a bankrupt local government.
What you present does appear a grim situation.

Can the Govt, which controls everything without any comeback in China, not do some fiscal juggling to promote sales, at least domestically?
 

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Next is the question that I am asking separately so as to not confuse the issue, if China collapses economically as it appears from what you have written, what will its effect me on the world economy, and what will be the effect on the European economy and what will be the effect on the US economy?
 

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What you present does appear a grim situation.

Can the Govt, which controls everything without any comeback in China, not do some fiscal juggling to promote sales, at least domestically?
Buyers are rushing the realty offices demanding refunds. Investors aren't going to be pouring their money into property when they know the price is going down. You can't re-inflate a bubble once it has been popped. A large chunk of the speculation was coming from outside China, that hot money is now capital flight along with a bunch of Chinese Tycoon fortunes.
 

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Next is the question that I am asking separately so as to not confuse the issue, if China collapses economically as it appears from what you have written, what will its effect me on the world economy, and what will be the effect on the European economy and what will be the effect on the US economy?
Commodity trading will be the hardest hit, prices for fuel, minerals and food will all drop dramatically. US auto makers will lose their vaunted Chinese profits. Europe will lose future Airbus orders, luckily they are just about done paying for the last order-book. The business the West gets from China is small compared to the business China relies on the West. Countries that will go into recession are Australia, Brazil, Canada, Russia... all the commodity traders. All the oil countries are going to be reeling from dirt cheap crude.
 

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Thanks.............
 

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Commodity trading will be the hardest hit, prices for fuel, minerals and food will all drop dramatically. US auto makers will lose their vaunted Chinese profits. Europe will lose future Airbus orders, luckily they are just about done paying for the last order-book. The business the West gets from China is small compared to the business China relies on the West. Countries that will go into recession are Australia, Brazil, Canada, Russia... all the commodity traders. All the oil countries are going to be reeling from dirt cheap crude.
What will all this mean for Indian economy?
 

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