IAF's SA-8s SAM failed repeatedly

[sayareakd]

In a joint exercise by Indian Air Force (IAF) and DRDO, a Russian short range surface-to-air missile was test fired from a defence base off the Odisha coast on Wednesday. The OSA-AK missile reportedly failed to hit a tow body suspended from a pilot less target aircraft (PTA) as it fell down before reaching the target.

Sources said air force personnel conducted the test, a part of target simulation exercise in the Integrated Test Range (ITR) at Chandipur on sea during noon.

The missile was fired from the launching complex – III and the PTA was flown from the launching -II of the ITR.

While three rounds of the missile were fired at 11.25 am, 11.45 am and 12.45 pm, the missile was to hit the tow body during the third attempt.

"The missile fell down immediately after take off. Though in initial two attempts the 10-km range missile travelled a certain distance, but during the target simulation exercise it failed to reach the target," said a source.

It was the third attempt in last three days which also proved futile.

While on Monday the pilot less target aircraft fell down before releasing the tow body and flying for a stipulated period due to technical snags, a similar attempt on Tuesday also failed as the missile could not be fired.

A defence official said the aim and objective of the exercise was to gauge the effectiveness of the missile and killing capabilities mid air.

The Russia-manufactured missile has already been procured by India for the IAF fighter air-crafts.

OSA-AK missile has been developed to be used against aircrafts, surface-to-air missiles and air-to-air missiles.

The missile has already been inducted in the army and it was first user trial by the IAF.

Sources added that if all the preparations go according to the plan, another exercise will be conducted within a day or two.

Thereafter, the missile would be fired from the fighter air crafts targeting the PTA

IAF’s SA-8s SAM failed repeatedly | idrw.org

 

[sayareakd]

soon Russian lobby will justify it............

Looks like Russians paid so much money that they had to cut the quality standards.

 

[sob]

I did not understand from this article a couple of things. This is a proven SAM system produced since the 80s. The article further states that the test was for a missile which will also be used as an Air to Air Missile.

Could somebody please shed some light, I am quite confused on this.

 

[pmaitra]

I agree, there is something we don't know. SA-8 is a proven system, and if it failed, it has to be either due to lack of maintenance, or they must have been modified for a different role, perhaps. Who knows?

 

[sayareakd]

I did not understand from this article a couple of things. This is a proven SAM system produced since the 80s. The article further states that the test was for a missile which will also be used as an Air to Air Missile.

Could somebody please shed some light, I am quite confused on this.

It is our famous Hemant Kumar Rout

Missile misses target again - The New Indian Express

 

[SajeevJino]

and the article says

it was first user trial by the
IAF.

It's proven in Iron Fist ..Isn't it

 

[sayareakd]

and the article says



It's proven in Iron Fist ..Isn't it

someone should ask him to learn from this forum.

 

[Twinblade]

I did not understand from this article a couple of things. This is a proven SAM system produced since the 80s. The article further states that the test was for a missile which will also be used as an Air to Air Missile.

Could somebody please shed some light, I am quite confused on this.

Missiles often fail. As per a CAG report almost half of R-77 failed to hit the targets. Taiwan had a similar failure with their MICA and HAWK SAM in recent exercises.

 

[Bhadra]

Missiles often fail. As per a CAG report almost half of R-77 failed to hit the targets. Taiwan had a similar failure with their MICA and HAWK SAM in recent exercises.

It is not DRDO developed missile that failure should be the norm. It is purchased and paid for system... then why pay for it ??

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=20083

 

[ersakthivel]

It is not DRDO developed missile that failure should be the norm. It is purchased and paid for system... then why pay for it ??

:: Bharat-Rakshak.com - Indian Military News Headlines ::

For doing that you should put a clause in contracts with russia saying that we want a refund for every missile that fails.And ask them to pay for the damages if in war time the failure of this missile leads to spectacular damages on our side.

Can you do that?

Our paid for aircraft carrier sits in russian yards blowing it's boliers idling 10 percent of it's active life in russian shipyards. Our Klub class imported missile fail to launch from kilo class submarine.

A lot of imported stuff like T-90, invar missiles, SA-8 come to us in monkey versions and junk status , but we are ready to pay through the nose with our precious foreign exchange reserve , while we call our DRDO lovingly as DERDO. Like they say as people get the government they deserve , we get imported junk that our attitude to home grown stuff deserves.

 

[sob]

Has anybody gone through the article completely?
Line One of the article states

In a joint exercise by Indian Air Force (IAF) and DRDO, a Russian short range surface-to-air missile was test fired

The only logical conclusion to me from this article is that it was a missile from DRDO which used the SA 8 launcher for the trials.

 

[Twinblade]

It is not DRDO developed missile that failure should be the norm. It is purchased and paid for system... then why pay for it ??

:: Bharat-Rakshak.com - Indian Military News Headlines ::

Missile propellants decay, the chemical characteristics change over time. In a tropical and humid climate like ours this deterioration accelerates. A lot of live firing is conducted very close to the shelf life of the missile, so as to make good of the system which would be unsafe/unfit for use after a few months. As a result the failure rate of live firing in service is much higher than the failure rate during development and procurement testing.

Has anybody gone through the article completely?
Line One of the article states



The only logical conclusion to me from this article is that it was a missile from DRDO which used the SA 8 launcher for the trials.

Wrong conclusion. DRDO operates the missile range at Chandipur, hence their presence.

 

[sob]

No for a system which has been with the forces for such a long time, will not be undergoing routine trials at Chandipur.

 

[Twinblade]

No for a system which has been with the forces for such a long time, will not be undergoing routine trials at Chandipur.

Ok, believe what you want to. Chandipur range is where all the telemetry equipment needed for tracking SAMs and targets is present. That is where Akash was tested, that is where AAD and PAD are tested, that is where Astra is being tested.

 

[hit&run]

soon Russian lobby will justify it............

Looks like Russians paid so much money that they had to cut the quality standards.

They paid so much money that sub standard weapons were pushed in for IAF. The same IAF has big nose of Tejas BTW.

I wonder if recent IAF exercise Iron fist at Pokhran exposed this missile system otherwise it is been inducted for many years by now; not to do user trail with DRDO.

 

[arnabmit]

We lovingly call it DreadO.

while we call our DRDO lovingly as DERDO

 

[Blackwater]

chinese knows this.... that''s why they dare to intrude ladakh

 

[ersakthivel]

chinese knows this.... that''s why they dare to intrude ladakh

But the status of chinese stuff will be much worse. If they fire the missile in the direction of LADAKH they may fly towards their camps in Tibet, Since they operate a double monkey version of Soviet stuff bu stealing and blindly copying. Indian defence planners too know this. And that is why everyone is taking it easy on Indo china border, knowing both sides gain nothing in case of war.

 

[sob]

But the status of chinese stuff will be much worse. If they fire the missile in the direction of LADAKH they may fly towards their camps in Tibet, Since they operate a double monkey version of Soviet stuff bu stealing and blindly copying. Indian defence planners too know this. And that is why everyone is taking it easy on Indo china border, knowing both sides gain nothing in case of war.

really do you believe this stuff that you have just written above.

The reason why everyone ( in your words) is taking it easy is because our troops do not have the infrastructure to quickly pump in troops and equipment. The Chinese have already made their moves and they are making us jump through the hoops.

 

[vram]

JUST IMAGINE ..just imagine if this was the AKASH that had failed...LOL! the media would have absolutely crucified the program ....now I barely see any major newpapers taking this on...