Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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SKC

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Ayy I too had booked for Covishield but than cancelled and got Covaxin.
Vaccines are rolling in like never before we will find vaccine on road by the end of August.
Ya but getting second dose of Covaxin is difficult in NCR. trying since morning but cant get hold of any slot.

Also there is a last date mentioned for second dose. What happens if we cross that date?
 

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Ya but getting second dose of Covaxin is difficult in NCR. trying since morning but cant get hold of any slot.

Also there is a last date mentioned for second dose. What happens if we cross that date?
Dose 2 for Covaxin are being reserved yo There are separate slots for dose1 and dose2
 

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Ya but getting second dose of Covaxin is difficult in NCR. trying since morning but cant get hold of any slot.

Also there is a last date mentioned for second dose. What happens if we cross that date?
I suppose the dates are indicative. You can book even after that date.
But I would strongly suggest to take it within the timeline.
 
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Guys, nothing has changed in effect. 75% were already being procured by Sarkar, either Central (50%) or state (25%). Due to severe incompetence by states, the center has resumed procurement on behalf of states, so the "free" vaccines total remains the same.
Yes. But interstate ratio changes. Earlier manufacturers had to give to the states based on the date of application and advance paid.
But now the parameter is broad. The infection prevalence, the wastage ratio, Population ratio and many more.
Although numbers on ground remains same but distribution is more need based.
I think this policy will also will change in a month or so.
 

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The Delta Variant spread in China is much worse than what China is pretending. They are not able to locate the index case from where it came in. It means it was already circulating in the largest province and economy of China and it was detected only when one patient became ill. As per below article, there was huge outflow of traffic from the city of Guangzhou the current outbreak center before it was closed down. The delta virus might have spread silently throughout China. Right now CCP is using all its resources to lock down the virus in one province. It is already late. If they couldn't detect from where this started, their current strategy is to chase the virus and block the transmission. It's already too late. Huge parts of China will go under lockdown in coming time, even more than the lockdown at the start of pandemic. This is the real test of CCP.

And the Chinese vaccines are as predicted useless and they are not stopping infections even with two doses. We had Turkey, Chile, UAE, Seychelles and now China itself to prove it.


Covid-19 has crept back into China where it first emerged and spun out of control worldwide more than a year ago. Two clusters are growing in Guangdong, the nation’s most populous province and the largest provincial economy.

Road barricades, community lockdowns and paramedics in hazmat gear are back in the megacities Guangzhou and Shenzhen, which sprung into action at the end of last month to squash flare-ups involving new, more virulent strains from abroad.

The fear is that both cities’ slack immunization progress may increase the risk to their tens of millions of residents.

Authorities there are taking no chances while admitting that some people fully vaccinated with homegrown jabs are among those infected.

More than 130 cases, including dozens of asymptomatic ones and silent carriers, had been logged in both cities and throughout the rest of Guangdong as of Monday, after an elderly woman in Guangzhou caught the virus at the end of May.

The patient, said to be a retired resident and a food lover in her 70s, has emerged as a super-spreader responsible for 111 cases with her “restaurant-hopping” lifestyle, according to the province’s health authority.

The caseload appears modest by international standards but has caused great consternation in Guangzhou. The city has been jolted out of its complacency as the spike suggests the virus could have been lurking for some time and known cases may be the tip of the iceberg.

Sweeping isolation and city-wide, no-one-left-behind testing blitzes are now in force. Exhaustive epidemiological investigations have failed to trace the source of the Guangzhou woman’s infection. She had not traveled outside the city for nearly a year.

The Delta strain (B16172) she had is still ravaging India and is said to be as much as 50% more infectious than existing mutations. Guangzhou has been partially closed down in a way eerily reminiscent of how Wuhan – Covid’s initial epicenter – was sealed off in early 2020.

Large tracts of Guangzhou’s heavily build-up downtown districts either home to the infected or visited by them have been placed under a blanket lockdown, while residents in neighborhoods not yet fenced in can still get out and about, but they are told not to leave the city or they must obtain a negative test result at least 48 hours before their trips.

Police have cordoned off toll booths on all expressways leaving Guangzhou to check on those fleeing. The Guangzhou Daily reported that about 310,000 vehicles had left the city in the past week.

Guangzhou’s railway and airlines have also stepped up their inspection of test results and will turn away those without a valid clean Covid slate. The city has also pared down subway services and closed key interchange stations for inter-city departures.

Closing off a first-tier city and corralling people into homes and isolation camps have not been seen in China since Wuhan. These measures have fueled unease among the masses, with some suspecting the viral situation may be worse than reported.

Zhong Nanshan, China’s top pulmonologist and head of an elite expert panel advising Beijing on Covid who lives in Guangzhou, has warned that if the Delta strain is unchecked, the city could slip into an India-like abyss.

Calls have been issued for the city, one of the few hubs in China still receiving international flights, to close its doors to shut out more transmissible strains.

Health officials and the public are also coming to terms with the apparent mediocre potency of indigenous vaccines.

The Guangzhou Daily and Southern Metropolis Daily have both revealed that a dozen of those infected in Guangzhou and all port workers in Shenzhen had been inoculated with locally made jabs. These cases drive home the fact that the shots supplied by SinoPharm and Sinovac may offer only limited protection against new viral mutations.


The National Health Commission said on Sunday that more than 777 million shots had been administered across the nation, without specifying the number of people fully vaccinated.

But in a move that has stirred ill-ease, Guangzhou stopped its inoculation of residents from June 1, seen by some netizens as a tacit admission of the underwhelming efficacy of Chinese shots against the new strains.
 

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Yesterday everybody was shouting through rooftop about diktat of US univ but are silent about this.
 

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As I posted in an earlier message, an ex-colleague had completed his course of both the Sinopharm/Sinovac doses in Dubai way back in Feb or even earlier. In March, got the antibody quantitative and spike protein test done for himself and family and found no noticeable antibodies for anyone. Not sure if it means anything, could simply be tests are ineffective at gauging protection offered by cell memory (I am not an expert, just random gyaan gleaned from Chacha Google).
Finally in June he has completed both shots of Pfizer for his entire family and has heaved a sigh of relief.
 

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As I posted in an earlier message, an ex-colleague had completed his course of both the Sinopharm/Sinovac doses in Dubai way back in Feb or even earlier. In March, got the antibody quantitative and spike protein test done for himself and family and found no noticeable antibodies for anyone. Not sure if it means anything, could simply be tests are ineffective at gauging protection offered by cell memory (I am not an expert, just random gyaan gleaned from Chacha Google).
Finally in June he has completed both shots of Pfizer for his entire family and has heaved a sigh of relief.
Personal initiative to take Pfizer or Dubai/ UAE govt. sanctioned one that we had read about?
 

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Govt encouraged I believe. His 14 year old daughter also got vaccinated. I have quit FB/Insta so I kinda get to know through other people who are in more direct touch or have seen their photos on FB.
 

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Also there is a last date mentioned for second dose. What happens if we cross that date?
Nothing happens. Even a month later shouldn’t make any difference. UK delayed Pfizer’s second dose during the initial phase. No real difference in data reported.

You however have limited immunity during that period.
 

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