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Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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US pharma company Pfizer has refused to send vaccines to Delhi and Punjab but it has hinted that it can supply five crore vaccine doses to India in 2021 if the Centre agrees to its terms and conditions, news agency PTI has reported.

According to the report, Pfizer can supply one crore vaccine doses in July, one in August, two crore in September and another one crore in October. But it will deal only with the government of India and the payment has to be made by GOI.

Pfizer, sources told to PTI, has also asked for indemnification from the Centre like it has with around 116 countries in the world, including the United States. Reuters reported that the US drugmaker wants legal protection from any claims linked to the use of its vaccine. Another report says Pfizer wants relaxations in the 'requirement of post-approval bridging trials and dispensing the requirement of testing their vaccines in Central Drugs Laboratory".

For the approval of any foreign-made vaccine, local trials in India are required, like Dr Reddy's Laboratory's conducted for Sputnik V, the only foreign vaccine approved in India. It is not yet known whether the government will agree to these clauses as other companies may raise similar demands.

As Pfizer refused to supply to individual states, the ministry said it has been coordinating with both Pfizer and Moderna. "Whether it is Pfizer or Moderna, at the Centre-level, we have been coordinating with them. The order book of both Pfizer and Moderna is full so it depends on their surplus that how much they can provide in India... they will come back to the Centre and we will help in facilitation to states," health ministry joint secretary Lav Agarwal said.

Pfizer has defended that 14.7 crore doses of vaccines have already been administered worldwide without any "significant reports of adverse effects". The expert group of vaccination will take a final call on allowing Pfizer, reports said.

Regarding Pfizer's vaccine, the Centre was initially doubtful as it required to be stored at minus 70 degree celsius. But recently, the company said that its vaccine can be stored at minus 25 degree, and it can also be stored for five days at a temperature between two degree and eight degree celsius
But where we will store the doses lol and why would be buy duper expensive vaccines when the local capacity is already being increased.
 

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But where we will store the doses lol and why would be buy duper expensive vaccines when the local capacity is already being increased.
Regarding Pfizer's vaccine, the Centre was initially doubtful as it required to be stored at minus 70 degree celsius. But recently, the company said that its vaccine can be stored at minus 25 degree, and it can also be stored for five days at a temperature between two degree and eight degree celsius
now since no storage facility, peefizer/BROWN SLAVES shall later blame GOI for quick wastage of vaccine!
hope its only for short term

so i guess easy money?
 

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Biggest failure of GOI.

"It is not yet known whether the government will agree to these clauses as other companies may raise similar demands."

Lets not gallop into cofusion.

With cases easing, I think GoI will let it play and delay their response while looking for other sources.
I think Moderna which has already tied up wth Dr. Reddys lab will fill that slot.
Tomorrow some other ass company can take GoI for a ride to try their vaccines when another chinese bio weapon strikes anywhere.
 

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But where we will store the doses lol and why would be buy duper expensive vaccines when the local capacity is already being increased.
Well..as we have seen there is no part of storage..as soon as this lands in India..its distributed by the Air force distribution machinery.
 

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SJVN Ltd installs Four Oxygen Plants in Himachal Pradesh


Posted On: 26 MAY 2021 6:04PM by PIB Delhi



SJVN Ltd, a joint venture of Ministry of Power and Government of Himachal Pradesh, is installing 4 Oxygen Plants in the districts of Shimla (Rampur), Kinnaur, Lahaul Spiti & Hamirpur of Himachal Pradesh at a cost of around Rs. 4.5 Crore. SJVN has provided Cold Chain Equipments costing around Rs. 1 Crore to state government in support of its efforts to vaccinate the entire population of the state.


SJVN has recently provided 50 semi fowler Beds to IGMC in addition to this financial support of more than Rs. 2 Crore, has been extended to procure ventilators, oximeters, other medical equipment, Personal Protection Equipment (PPEs), masks, sanitizers & gloves in various hospitals of Government of Himachal Pradesh.


For boosting the healthcare infrastructure in Himachal Pradesh SJVN is also supporting NGOs working in fight against Covid-19 to the tune of Rs. 1 Crore. In all these activities an amount of around Rs. 7.5 Crore has been contributed in combating the pandemic during last four months.


In addition to this SJVN has also provided ventilators, oxygen concentrators, oximeters and other medical equipment to Hospitals in Bihar, Uttarakhand and other states where it has presence.


The employees of SJVN have already contributed one day salary amounting to Rs. 45 Lakh to CM Relief Fund/H.P.Covid-19 Solidarity Response Fund to combat the Corona challenge.


To speed up the process of vaccination against Covid-19, SJVN has tied up with Fortis Hospital for vaccinating its employees, persons working in through contractors and local people residing in the vicinity of Projects/offices.


SJVN has always been in forefront in supporting the society and the government for tackling various issues which affect the nation and fellow countrymen. SJVN is also liberally extending support for distribution of food and other essential items to the needy and has contributed Rs. 25 Crore towards PM CARES Fund.
 

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The New York Times uses arbitrarily chosen random numbers to claim that India’s actual Covid-19 infection and deaths are much more

If Rahul Gandhi believes the NYT numbers on Covid-19 infections and deaths in India, he should tweet, ‘Numbers don’t lie, state governments in India do’

NYT uses arbitrarily chosen random numbers

Now, New York Times has not used any statistically relevant theory to arrive at these numbers. They just randomly assumed by what degree the actually infections are more, and calculated the fatality numbers from a similarly arbitrarily assumed fatality rate.

For the ‘conservative’ estimate, they assumed actual infections are 15 times more, and multiplying current number of 2.69 crore on May 24, they arrived at the estimated infections at 40401 million (40.42 crore). After that, they assumed a fatality rate of 0.15%, and decided that estimated deaths should be 6 lakh.

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There is no accompanying text for this calculation, it does not say what category of scenario it is. If the conservative estimate is 15 times, then what kind of estimate is 10 times, the article does not explain. This is purely a random calculation.

The article says that they relied on the three serosurveys done in India last year. In serosurveys, a small number of people are tested for Covid-19 antibodies, and the from the percentage of people showing the antigen in their bodies, the total infection in the entire population is estimated. The survey is based on the fact that people development antibodies for a pathogen after it is exposed to that pathogen, therefore, people who carried the Covid-19 antibodies was infected with the virus, and their bodies fought the virus without showing any symptoms.

The NYT article has a section titled ‘How we estimated death rates’. While it raised the hope that there is an explanation behind the assumed death rates of 0.15%, 0.30% and 0.60% they have used, actually there was no explanation. They used a misleading title for the section, as it does not say how exactly they estimated the death rates. The section talks about how it is difficult to estimate the death rate as it depends on various factors like the age of the population. It does not contain a single sentence to inform how they estimated the death rates.

The article quotes several persons in support of its claim, and one of them is Dr. Ramanan Laxminarayan, director of the Center for Disease Dynamics, Economics & Policy. He is the same person who had predicted very high infection numbers for India last year, and after his predictions proved to be inaccurate, he is now peddling the theory that India must be underreporting cases and deaths.



Last year in March, several Indian media houses had interviewed him, where he had claimed that India will face 30 to 50 crore 300 million to 500 million cases by July 2020. By the end of July 2020, India had less than 16 lakh positive cases.


After the claims by is Dr. Ramanan Laxminarayan, an Indian, proved to be false, the same claims about Covid-19 in India are now being made by foreign authors in a foreign publication. Somehow, it looks like a part of the ongoing efforts by the left liberals to target the Modi govt using international left-wing publications. Suddenly media houses like The New York Times, Washington Post, Time magazine etc are publishing lots of anti-Modi govt articles written by Indian left liberal columnist, and the NYT article on the estimated Covid-19 deaths also looks like the part of the same agenda.


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The entire News York Times article is nothing but an exercise of ‘what if’ analysis using simple arithmetic, it does not have any statistical analysis needed to arrive the kind of conclusion they are claiming. It just multiplies the official infection numbers with random numbers, and then further multiplies them with randomly chosen fatality rates to calculate the estimated deaths.
 
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We must not lower our standards while approving or disapproving Pfizer vaccines. Also every batch must be randomly tested and people dealing with the procurement must be vetted and double watched for any leniency aka bribe from the supplier. .

TBH I am not ready to trust them now. But given the traits of current government they flow with the popular trends. When few librandu pimps on social media start amplify some thought Modi government starts obliging it with alacrity.
 

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The New York Times uses arbitrarily chosen random numbers to claim that India’s actual Covid-19 infection and deaths are much more

If Rahul Gandhi believes the NYT numbers on Covid-19 infections and deaths in India, he should tweet, ‘Numbers don’t lie, state governments in India do’

NYT uses arbitrarily chosen random numbers

Now, New York Times has not used any statistically relevant theory to arrive at these numbers. They just randomly assumed by what degree the actually infections are more, and calculated the fatality numbers from a similarly arbitrarily assumed fatality rate.

For the ‘conservative’ estimate, they assumed actual infections are 15 times more, and multiplying current number of 2.69 crore on May 24, they arrived at the estimated infections at 40401 million (40.42 crore). After that, they assumed a fatality rate of 0.15%, and decided that estimated deaths should be 6 lakh.

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There is no accompanying text for this calculation, it does not say what category of scenario it is. If the conservative estimate is 15 times, then what kind of estimate is 10 times, the article does not explain. This is purely a random calculation.

The article says that they relied on the three serosurveys done in India last year. In serosurveys, a small number of people are tested for Covid-19 antibodies, and the from the percentage of people showing the antigen in their bodies, the total infection in the entire population is estimated. The survey is based on the fact that people development antibodies for a pathogen after it is exposed to that pathogen, therefore, people who carried the Covid-19 antibodies was infected with the virus, and their bodies fought the virus without showing any symptoms.

The NYT article has a section titled ‘How we estimated death rates’. While it raised the hope that there is an explanation behind the assumed death rates of 0.15%, 0.30% and 0.60% they have used, actually there was no explanation. They used a misleading title for the section, as it does not say how exactly they estimated the death rates. The section talks about how it is difficult to estimate the death rate as it depends on various factors like the age of the population. It does not contain a single sentence to inform how they estimated the death rates.

The article quotes several persons in support of its claim, and one of them is Dr. Ramanan Laxminarayan, director of the Center for Disease Dynamics, Economics & Policy. He is the same person who had predicted very high infection numbers for India last year, and after his predictions proved to be inaccurate, he is now peddling the theory that India must be underreporting cases and deaths.



Last year in March, several Indian media houses had interviewed him, where he had claimed that India will face 30 to 50 crore 300 million to 500 million cases by July 2020. By the end of July 2020, India had less than 16 lakh positive cases.


After the claims by is Dr. Ramanan Laxminarayan, an Indian, proved to be false, the same claims about Covid-19 in India are now being made by foreign authors in a foreign publication. Somehow, it looks like a part of the ongoing efforts by the left liberals to target the Modi govt using international left-wing publications. Suddenly media houses like The New York Times, Washington Post, Time magazine etc are publishing lots of anti-Modi govt articles written by Indian left liberal columnist, and the NYT article on the estimated Covid-19 deaths also looks like the part of the same agenda.


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The entire News York Times article is nothing but an exercise of ‘what if’ analysis using simple arithmetic, it does not have any statistical analysis needed to arrive the kind of conclusion they are claiming. It just multiplies the official infection numbers with random numbers, and then further multiplies them with randomly chosen fatality rates to calculate the estimated deaths.
Does Rahul Gandhi knows his own party has govt in some major states ... Cant think of the day when this guy becomes our PM ...
 

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The New York Times uses arbitrarily chosen random numbers to claim that India’s actual Covid-19 infection and deaths are much more

NYT should do it on american covid cases.
The more reports like this coming out of USA points in the direction that USA has really screwed up their death count on covid and wants a diversion from its covid deaths and handling of the situation.
With a less viral variant USA is suffering much....so imagine a high virulant covid strain like in India hitting USA.
With all the advances and the sparse population if american cant tame in their death count...well!! God Save USA
we can expect more and more dick measuring by umrican news agencies .
 

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NYT should do it on american covid cases.
The more reports like this coming out of USA points in the direction that USA has really screwed up their death count on covid and wants a diversion from its covid deaths and handling of the situation.
With a less viral variant USA is suffering much....so imagine a high virulant covid strain like in India hitting USA.
With all the advances and the sparse population if american cant tame in their death count...well!! God Save USA
we can expect more and more dick measuring by umrican news agencies .
Why ? Blumpf is not in power, and under Biden's enlightened Democrat rule nothing bad can take place.
Mismanagement of the chinese pandemic is only done by "fascists" like Trump, Modi, Bolsonaro etc, can't put out stuff contrary to narrative.
 

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NYT should do it on american covid cases.
The more reports like this coming out of USA points in the direction that USA has really screwed up their death count on covid and wants a diversion from its covid deaths and handling of the situation.
With a less viral variant USA is suffering much....so imagine a high virulant covid strain like in India hitting USA.
With all the advances and the sparse population if american cant tame in their death count...well!! God Save USA
we can expect more and more dick measuring by umrican news agencies .
Why ? Blumpf is not in power, and under Biden's enlightened Democrat rule nothing bad can take place.
Mismanagement of the chinese pandemic is only done by "fascists" like Trump, Modi, Bolsonaro etc, can't put out stuff contrary to narrative.
How, just how, can the fig, this pass "editorial review" ???

I mean, we know that they are a tool/media cell of the democrat regime & it's supporters world wide, but at least shouldn't they maintain some standard or use some more sophistication even when lying??
 

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Why ? Blumpf is not in power, and under Biden's enlightened Democrat rule nothing bad can take place.
Mismanagement of the chinese pandemic is only done by "fascists" like Trump, Modi, Bolsonaro etc, can't put out stuff contrary to narrative.
Yes, they are CoVid free with nearly 670 deaths daily.
 

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How, just how, can the fig, this pass "editorial review" ???

I mean, we know that they are a tool/media cell of the democrat regime & it's supporters world wide, but at least shouldn't they maintain some standard or use some more sophistication even when lying??
It's aimed at brown coolies mainly, goras don't give a fuck beyond giving pic related reactions and low key enjoying schadenfreude from our suffering
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What brown coolies( i.e the type of piddi you find on twitter ) do, is that they amplify these shit "numbers" and even your Indian dalal MSM will pick this up and run articles on them
 

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Fucking rectums


The New York Times uses arbitrarily chosen random numbers to claim that India’s actual Covid-19 infection and deaths are much more

If Rahul Gandhi believes the NYT numbers on Covid-19 infections and deaths in India, he should tweet, ‘Numbers don’t lie, state governments in India do’

NYT uses arbitrarily chosen random numbers

Now, New York Times has not used any statistically relevant theory to arrive at these numbers. They just randomly assumed by what degree the actually infections are more, and calculated the fatality numbers from a similarly arbitrarily assumed fatality rate.

For the ‘conservative’ estimate, they assumed actual infections are 15 times more, and multiplying current number of 2.69 crore on May 24, they arrived at the estimated infections at 40401 million (40.42 crore). After that, they assumed a fatality rate of 0.15%, and decided that estimated deaths should be 6 lakh.

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There is no accompanying text for this calculation, it does not say what category of scenario it is. If the conservative estimate is 15 times, then what kind of estimate is 10 times, the article does not explain. This is purely a random calculation.

The article says that they relied on the three serosurveys done in India last year. In serosurveys, a small number of people are tested for Covid-19 antibodies, and the from the percentage of people showing the antigen in their bodies, the total infection in the entire population is estimated. The survey is based on the fact that people development antibodies for a pathogen after it is exposed to that pathogen, therefore, people who carried the Covid-19 antibodies was infected with the virus, and their bodies fought the virus without showing any symptoms.

The NYT article has a section titled ‘How we estimated death rates’. While it raised the hope that there is an explanation behind the assumed death rates of 0.15%, 0.30% and 0.60% they have used, actually there was no explanation. They used a misleading title for the section, as it does not say how exactly they estimated the death rates. The section talks about how it is difficult to estimate the death rate as it depends on various factors like the age of the population. It does not contain a single sentence to inform how they estimated the death rates.

The article quotes several persons in support of its claim, and one of them is Dr. Ramanan Laxminarayan, director of the Center for Disease Dynamics, Economics & Policy. He is the same person who had predicted very high infection numbers for India last year, and after his predictions proved to be inaccurate, he is now peddling the theory that India must be underreporting cases and deaths.



Last year in March, several Indian media houses had interviewed him, where he had claimed that India will face 30 to 50 crore 300 million to 500 million cases by July 2020. By the end of July 2020, India had less than 16 lakh positive cases.


After the claims by is Dr. Ramanan Laxminarayan, an Indian, proved to be false, the same claims about Covid-19 in India are now being made by foreign authors in a foreign publication. Somehow, it looks like a part of the ongoing efforts by the left liberals to target the Modi govt using international left-wing publications. Suddenly media houses like The New York Times, Washington Post, Time magazine etc are publishing lots of anti-Modi govt articles written by Indian left liberal columnist, and the NYT article on the estimated Covid-19 deaths also looks like the part of the same agenda.


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The entire News York Times article is nothing but an exercise of ‘what if’ analysis using simple arithmetic, it does not have any statistical analysis needed to arrive the kind of conclusion they are claiming. It just multiplies the official infection numbers with random numbers, and then further multiplies them with randomly chosen fatality rates to calculate the estimated deaths.
This chutiya BJP govt is also not giving rebuttal so can’t blame NYT alone. They will write whatever shit they want.
Idar it takes 2-3 weeks to wake up for ‘Indian variant’ disinformation. Take Singapore for contrast.
Sab iss govt k gaand maarke chale jate hai and BJP keep wondering what just happened.
 

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How, just how, can the fig, this pass "editorial review" ???

I mean, we know that they are a tool/media cell of the democrat regime & it's supporters world wide, but at least shouldn't they maintain some standard or use some more sophistication even when lying??
You should consider yourself lucky that NYT didn't declare that each one of 1.3 billion Indian and all the Rohingya and BD illigals in India already have been infected in the first wave. The definition of second wave means all Indians are getting infected for the second time. 🧐
 
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This chutiya BJP govt is also not giving rebuttal so can’t blame NYT alone. They will write whatever shit they want.
Idar it takes 2-3 weeks to wake up for ‘Indian variant’ disinformation. Take Singapore for contrast.
Sab iss govt k gaand maarke chale jate hai and BJP keep wondering what just happened.
NY Times is far from an authority in anything.
 

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