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Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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notaname

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Something looks fishy here......

I mean AZ has sued serum for not delivering vaccine so why does her run to england where he is more susceptible to be arrested ????

Indian gov wont touch because it is his company which is delivering most of vacancy until and unless othere enter in market which will probably happen post june only

so why he ran to england ?????

is he going to deliver AZ vacancy from some new manufacturing firm in UK ????

And what was Indian IB doing weren't they were monitoring him ???
What IB do you really think they work I don't think so, l never have seen they been able to handle any internal security matters.
 
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Oxygen Concentrators during COVID-19: What We Need to Know


Posted On: 01 MAY 2021 11:51AM by PIB Mumbai



As India battles the 2nd wave of the COVID-19 pandemic, the surge of new infections has resulted in an alarming increase in the number of active cases. The resultant stress on our public health infrastructure has led to a big spike in demand for oxygen concentrators.


So, what precisely are oxygen concentrators, when would they be required, how are they to be used? or not used ? Here’s a quick lowdown on the same.


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To survive, we need a steady supply of oxygen, flowing from our lungs to various cells in the body. COVID-19 is a respiratory disease which affects our lungs and can cause the oxygen level to drop to dangerous levels. In such a situation, we would need to undergo what is known as oxygen therapy – using oxygen for medical treatment, to enhance our oxygen levels to clinically acceptable levels.


Oxygen level is measured by oxygen saturation, known briefly as SpO2. This is a measure of the amount of oxygen-carrying haemoglobin in the blood. A healthy individual with normal lungs, will have an arterial oxygen saturation of 95% – 100%.


According to a WHO training manual on pulse oximetry, if the oxygen saturation is 94% or lower, the patient needs to be treated quickly. A saturation of less than 90% is a clinical emergency.


Now, according to the latest clinical guidance for management of adult COVID-19 patients, issued by the Ministry of Health & Family Welfare, an oxygen concentration less than or equal to 93% on room air requires hospital admission, while that below 90% is classified as a severe disease, requiring admission in ICU. However, given the prevalent situation in the wake of the 2nd wave, we must do whatever we best can, in order to try and replenish our oxygen levels, in the event of delay or inability in getting hospital admission as per the clinical management protocol.


Oxygen Concentrator – how does it work ?


We know that atmospheric air has roughly 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen. Oxygen concentrators are simple devices which do precisely what its name promises – they take in ambient air and increase the oxygen concentration, by filtering out and throwing away nitrogen.


These Oxygen concentrators work the same way in supplying oxygen needed by the body such as oxygen tanks or cylinders, with the use of a cannula, oxygen masks or nasal tubes. The difference is that, while the cylinders need to be refilled, the Oxygen Concentrators can work 24 x 7.


So, who can use them, and when?


Does this mean that anyone who finds their oxygen level falling below acceptable levels can use a concentrator and help oneself? Absolutely not.


Speaking to PIB on the appropriate usage of concentrators, Professor and Head of Department Anaesthesia, B. J. Medical College, Pune, Prof. Sanyogita Naik said: “Oxygen concentrators can be used only in moderate cases of COVID-19, when the patient experiences drop in oxygen levels, where the oxygen requirement is a maximum of 5 litres per minute.”


The professor added that oxygen concentrators are also very useful for patients experiencing post-COVID complications which necessitate oxygen therapy.


Can we use them on our own?


The answer is a strict no. Speaking at a webinar organized by PIB on April 30, Dr. Chaitanya H. Balakrishnan, Covid Co-ordinator, St. John’s Medical College Hospital, Bangalore made it abundantly clear that using oxygen concentrator without medical guidance can be very harmful. “Patients with moderate pneumonia induced by COVID-19 - with oxygen saturation less than 94 - can benefit from supplemental oxygen given through oxygen concentrator, but only till they get hospital admission. However, patients using it themselves without suitable medical advice can be harmful.”




What do Doctors say about #Oxygen Concentrators?

Till you get a bed, #OxygenConcentrator can be beneficial, but not without guidance from chest physician/internal medicine specialist; depends on patients' pre-existing lung conditions

- Dr. Chaitanya

👉https://t.co/LLG2u8mvuA pic.twitter.com/bGWp4h2q67
— PIB in Maharashtra 🇮🇳 (@PIBMumbai) May 1, 2021









Dr. Chaitanya summarised saying, “So, till you get a bed, oxygen concentrator can be beneficial, but definitely not without guidance from chest physician or internal medicine specialist. It also depends on patients' pre-existing lung conditions.”


Prof. Sanyogita too says that both purchase and usage of concentrators is to be done only based on prescription by a medical doctor. Depending upon the capacity, O2 Concentrators cost upwards of Rs 30,000.


O2 Concentrators market in India


India has seen a big spurt in manufacture and sale of Oxygen concentrators. Besides multi-national brands, several Indian start-ups, funded under the CAWACH (Centre for Augmenting War with Covid 19 Health Crisis) programme of Department of Science & Technology, have developed efficient and cost effective Oxygen Concentrators.


Given their usefulness during the second wave of Covid Pandemic, 1 lakh Oxygen Concentrators are being procured through PM CARES fund.


****
 

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Assuming your tragedy story to be true and you having a internet connection being able to type this message and post at good speed. I would say your village is a unique case where people are totally cut off from the main land and the population is too illiterate to even know how death certificate is made. Probably no one in your village have birth certificate either.

My sympathies are with you. May be @Bhumihar can help us know and cross check your claims. Having said that with that kind of disenfranchisement the numbers your village can add to the CNN’s claim are too minuscule and it can not be a same case all over India especially metropolitan cities like Delhi which are having cases in larger numbers and have access to government facilities.
Search Telia Afghan in Google. It indeed is a tragedy that people have 4G internet connection but no medical facility and I am not telling this in a sarcastic way. If you intend to know the truth then you must come to Deoria which is one of most backward districts of India.
 

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The only thing that could have reduced the severity was vaccination. The problem there is that there was a lot of vaccine scepticism and most people did not feel the need to get vaccinated as disease was thought to be over.

Nothing the government could do there. Unless you want to have people picked up and forcefully vaccinated.

As for health infrastructure, that's a long term problem, the government could have stocked up on oxygen, ventilators and drugs. Most would have called the government alarmist and opposition would have called it wastage of resources but they could have done it if they were convinced of this upcoming disaster.

Besides, peole were behaving like pre-covid times at least since November. It took five months for the volcano to erupt. In Jan-Feb, everyone wanted to believe worst was over and government thought so as well.

Other countries are going to have further waves as well. We'll see how good vaccines are against new mutations.
A lot could have been done honestly like alot.

Govt was lucky enough to witness the carnage of second and third waves did in other countries they knew what was coming they could have responded to it.

1. Setting up of emergency hospitals and enforcing strict guidelines for state govts to follow or face repercussion.
The money allotted by the govt for construction of hospitals oxygen plants etc was to be closely tracked and deadlines given for construction to be completed or eavy penalties handed out.

2. various centers should have been created for vaccination drives and the ones already created be bolstered.

3.A massive PR and SM campaign for vaccination should have been started and individuals be made aware of the issues they could if not vaccinated.
Every single person who was out there spewing nonsense about vaccine should have been arrested and charged govt should have also made its stand very clear either vaccinate or site at home because we cannot allow your foolishness to harm other.
A lot of european countries have done this keeping in tabs on people who rejected the vaccine to vaccinate them later or isolate them.

4.States where the second wave begun to form should have been given a limited timeframe to bring the situation under control or govt would directly take control of things there.

5. when maharashtra has started to bubble govt should have immediately sealed of the border and prepared near by states for the impending surge. central govt should have taken direct control and handled things themselves while publicly lambasting the state govt for its failure.

6.vaccine and other important medicines should have been stored in excess to handle the surge and a solid logistics line established among states to maintain the supply chain.

7.All religious tours should have been cancelled and all protest sites cleared of no matter what the "pr cost".

8.With the benefit of hindsight govt should have ordered in fact this should have been done long ago but still media houses were to be report the situation but follow certain protocols so as to not cause panic same goes for SM. govt with the help of media and SM should have explained when should one go to the hospital and when one should not.

9.once it had become clear that the second wave was here govt should have directed district wise lockdowns and curfews since they are happening now anyways to not contain but rather make sure that the hospitals do not get overflown.

10. the pace of vaccination from day one should have constantly risen at a good rate due to our high population and the difficulties they bring.

11. After the migrant fiasco during wave govt should have identified states where the number of interstate workers was high and build housing facilities to contain them trains should to their home destinations should have been shut to prevent moment while proper help given to their families like the govt did last year.

12. states showing the signs of second wave should have been immediately instructed to shut down public leisure places or raise the fares to discourage the public from going while strict mask guidelines were to be issued with penalties.

These are just a few things but overall a lot of things could have been done..
 

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Something looks fishy here......

I mean AZ has sued serum for not delivering vaccine so why does her run to england where he is more susceptible to be arrested ????

Indian gov wont touch because it is his company which is delivering most of vacancy until and unless othere enter in market which will probably happen post june only

so why he ran to england ?????

is he going to deliver AZ vacancy from some new manufacturing firm in UK ????

And what was Indian IB doing weren't they were monitoring him ???
Adar Poonawala is a manufacturer like say, Foxconn or Wistron. If either faks up, Apple sues them.

SII did not 'invent' Covishield. It was license manufacturing it for AstraZeneca. Now, if SII faks up, shouldn't AstraZeneca have all right to sue Adar because it has delayed the vaccine rollout in UK endangering lives and forcing UK Govt. to import Pfizer and J&J at X times the cost of Astra Zeneca's Covishield?

Maybe he went to England to beg and plead for a new lease of life. I would if I was in his place. He got everything handed over to him on a platter. Instead of being humble and trying to scale up, he got cocky and called Covaxin 'filtered water'. The cosmos comes up with strange ways of humbling you. Add a certain noncommittal and nonchalant Babaji into the matrix, I would be chanting the Mahamrityunjaya jaap in my head 24/7 if I were Adar.
 

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Can't vouch for him I'm form south Bihar he's on the north west corner.
People are dying here too but we have decent bit of infra. Vaccination is taking place in Angan Badis. Police are patroling 2 times a day. Corona test is being done in 4 th tier cities as well.
People are ignorant as always tho.
Thats the problem. People die every year here in my village due to floods but no coverage, they die due to JE but still no coverage and now they are dying due to Covid and still no coverage. The problem is mainly due to the location of my village, it is so far away that noone cares.
 

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A lot could have been done honestly like alot.

Govt was lucky enough to witness the carnage of second and third waves did in other countries they knew what was coming they could have responded to it.

1. Setting up of emergency hospitals and enforcing strict guidelines for state govts to follow or face repercussion.
The money allotted by the govt for construction of hospitals oxygen plants etc was to be closely tracked and deadlines given for construction to be completed or eavy penalties handed out.

2. various centers should have been created for vaccination drives and the ones already created be bolstered.

3.A massive PR and SM campaign for vaccination should have been started and individuals be made aware of the issues they could if not vaccinated.
Every single person who was out there spewing nonsense about vaccine should have been arrested and charged govt should have also made its stand very clear either vaccinate or site at home because we cannot allow your foolishness to harm other.
A lot of european countries have done this keeping in tabs on people who rejected the vaccine to vaccinate them later or isolate them.

4.States where the second wave begun to form should have been given a limited timeframe to bring the situation under control or govt would directly take control of things there.

5. when maharashtra has started to bubble govt should have immediately sealed of the border and prepared near by states for the impending surge. central govt should have taken direct control and handled things themselves while publicly lambasting the state govt for its failure.

6.vaccine and other important medicines should have been stored in excess to handle the surge and a solid logistics line established among states to maintain the supply chain.

7.All religious tours should have been cancelled and all protest sites cleared of no matter what the "pr cost".

8.With the benefit of hindsight govt should have ordered in fact this should have been done long ago but still media houses were to be report the situation but follow certain protocols so as to not cause panic same goes for SM. govt with the help of media and SM should have explained when should one go to the hospital and when one should not.

9.once it had become clear that the second wave was here govt should have directed district wise lockdowns and curfews since they are happening now anyways to not contain but rather make sure that the hospitals do not get overflown.

10. the pace of vaccination from day one should have constantly risen at a good rate due to our high population and the difficulties they bring.

11. After the migrant fiasco during wave govt should have identified states where the number of interstate workers was high and build housing facilities to contain them trains should to their home destinations should have been shut to prevent moment while proper help given to their families like the govt did last year.

12. states showing the signs of second wave should have been immediately instructed to shut down public leisure places or raise the fares to discourage the public from going while strict mask guidelines were to be issued with penalties.

These are just a few things but overall a lot of things could have been done..
Even if they had done only one or two things situation would be better like they should have kept the makeshift hospitals and keep on adding more beds there and directed babus to generate oxygen at district level only the daily requirements would have sufficed.
 

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Not directly related to the topic at hand. But has a bearing....

High Courts should avoid unnecessary, off-the-cuff remarks: Supreme Court


 

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Poonawala has all infra in india . Including indian staff . No need to worry . He is just expanding his branches . Guy lost 1000 crore to fire and this preassure of vaccine . Threats frm politicians . Saw one of his recent interview . Clearly his voice showed he has been sleep deprived for many days . Some central govt employee shd be appointed to be a bridge between SII and state govt .. Only matured babus can tolorate harsh treatments of politicians . Poonawala shd chill with his wife in london . Plant and employees shd be given state protection meanwhile .
 

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Even if they had done only one or two things situation would be better like they should have kept the makeshift hospitals and keep on adding more beds there and directed babus to generate oxygen at district level only the daily requirements would have sufficed.
The second wave could not have been stopped i understand that but it could have been certainly better handled.
 

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Greece is pretty much bankrupt. hundreds of billions of dollars in debt. So those Greek people used debt, they can never repay, to take what others could have purchased. Then the Greeks act like they are good by giving some of it to people who actually had money. Do Indians, Mexicans, Brazilians have some money? Bet those people could have purchased resources they needed if others had not taken them.
Lol we are already manufacturing 2 million vaccines every day . In 2021 we are all set to pump out 1.5 billion plus vaccines.

Those are out of Civilisational ties. We never officially asked Greece to support.

And it is not the size of donation that matters but the intent and heart. Greeks are cultured people we respect.
 

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A lot could have been done honestly like alot.

Govt was lucky enough to witness the carnage of second and third waves did in other countries they knew what was coming they could have responded to it.

1. Setting up of emergency hospitals and enforcing strict guidelines for state govts to follow or face repercussion.
The money allotted by the govt for construction of hospitals oxygen plants etc was to be closely tracked and deadlines given for construction to be completed or eavy penalties handed out.

2. various centers should have been created for vaccination drives and the ones already created be bolstered.

3.A massive PR and SM campaign for vaccination should have been started and individuals be made aware of the issues they could if not vaccinated.
Every single person who was out there spewing nonsense about vaccine should have been arrested and charged govt should have also made its stand very clear either vaccinate or site at home because we cannot allow your foolishness to harm other.
A lot of european countries have done this keeping in tabs on people who rejected the vaccine to vaccinate them later or isolate them.

4.States where the second wave begun to form should have been given a limited timeframe to bring the situation under control or govt would directly take control of things there.

5. when maharashtra has started to bubble govt should have immediately sealed of the border and prepared near by states for the impending surge. central govt should have taken direct control and handled things themselves while publicly lambasting the state govt for its failure.

6.vaccine and other important medicines should have been stored in excess to handle the surge and a solid logistics line established among states to maintain the supply chain.

7.All religious tours should have been cancelled and all protest sites cleared of no matter what the "pr cost".

8.With the benefit of hindsight govt should have ordered in fact this should have been done long ago but still media houses were to be report the situation but follow certain protocols so as to not cause panic same goes for SM. govt with the help of media and SM should have explained when should one go to the hospital and when one should not.

9.once it had become clear that the second wave was here govt should have directed district wise lockdowns and curfews since they are happening now anyways to not contain but rather make sure that the hospitals do not get overflown.

10. the pace of vaccination from day one should have constantly risen at a good rate due to our high population and the difficulties they bring.

11. After the migrant fiasco during wave govt should have identified states where the number of interstate workers was high and build housing facilities to contain them trains should to their home destinations should have been shut to prevent moment while proper help given to their families like the govt did last year.

12. states showing the signs of second wave should have been immediately instructed to shut down public leisure places or raise the fares to discourage the public from going while strict mask guidelines were to be issued with penalties.

These are just a few things but overall a lot of things could have been done..
Maharashtra borders should have been sealed long ago but the MVA would have struck back in vengeance and hurt rest of India in a lot of ways.

If one wants to measure the damage caused by a corrupt, incompetent Govt, look no further than Maharasthra.
 

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Not directly related to the topic at hand. But has a bearing....

High Courts should avoid unnecessary, off-the-cuff remarks: Supreme Court


yea yea josh me bol diya tha "IF ANYONE STOPS OXYGEN WE WILL HANG THEM" went real quiet after they realized what was stopping oxygen around delhi.
 

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Maharashtra borders should have been sealed long ago but the MVA would have struck back in vengeance and hurt rest of India in a lot of ways.

If one wants to measure the damage caused by a corrupt, incompetent Govt, look no further than Maharasthra.
i consider not sealing maharashtra and taking over the handling there directly while readying states who share a border with them one of the biggest mistakes of the govt.
 

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read somewhere that is because covaxin is a mRNA vaccine, it’s like erythromycin it has a wide range effectiveness on its own without changing anything.

India’s first mRNA vaccine by the way.
Aint Covidshield produced using viral vector platform that is not mrna ?

Edit - I actually read somewhere that our first mrna corona chan vaccine is to begin trial soon .
 

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Thats the problem. People die every year here in my village due to floods but no coverage, they die due to JE but still no coverage and now they are dying due to Covid and still no coverage. The problem is mainly due to the location of my village, it is so far away that noone cares.
Its called the tyranny of distance, my friend.

Civilization ends outside a metro or a large city in India.

Baaki sab maya hai.

Not many here know there are still places in India where one needs to cross a river, walk a few kms to eventually take a bus/trekker to a city where the best you can get in the name of healthcare is a quack who has done B.Com and is willing to operate you for appendicitis.
 

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Result of Kraut Hegemony in Zooropean Union
sorry off topic again. I will shut up about this stuff now because this is a very important thread.

not according to this.


cause: socialism, giving do nothings everything, the Germans just enabled PIIGS continued greed and feeding at the trough.

respect the socialist PIIGS.
 

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