Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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But then Bihar and WB has higher population density and lesser number of cases.
I don't think that is a justifiable parameters.
If you replace population density to urban population density then maybe it would be a parameter.
KL does not have pure rural population in the classical indian definition at all .. its all classified contigous urban/semi-urban population only ....
a much worse scenario, if you think about it....
 

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PM takes on Arvind Kejriwal in the meeting. PM told Kejriwal - “You have broken a very imp protocol, such private conversation are never televised ! #ArvindKejriwal froze in his seat once he realised that PM got to know, and with folded hands apologised to the PM #NarendraModi

What an absolute vermin of the worst kind! Actually its an insult to vermins.
 

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India’s oxygen production capacity increased from 3500 MT to 7000 MT per day in past 10 days.

current issue is less about oxygen production more about supply chain and last mile distribution.
And biggest issue is general public stockpiling the Cylinders and keeping them at their home. There are so many people who are in lines outside Oxygen centers who are just taking it for their own use in case something happens at home. We have been producing more oxygen then required since last 2 months but this sudden stockpiling is creating unnecessary issues.
Also these so called world class big hospitals, none is having a oxygen plant in their premise, all are charging exorbitant prices from customer but none has installed a single oxygen plan. The cheapest Plans starts at cost of only 10lac which is peanut compared to what they are earning each day.
 

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And biggest issue is general public stockpiling the Cylinders and keeping them at their home. There are so many people who are in lines outside Oxygen centers who are just taking it for their own use in case something happens at home. We have been producing more oxygen then required since last 2 months but this sudden stockpiling is creating unnecessary issues.
Also these so called world class big hospitals, none is having a oxygen plant in their premise, all are charging exorbitant prices from customer but none has installed a single oxygen plan. The cheapest Plans starts at cost of only 10lac which is peanut compared to what they are earning each day.
What else do you expect apart from hoarding when you are bombarded by suffering porn all day?
Because if the disease isn't bad enough, mediarandis causing panic among populace.
 

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Yesterday Numbers : Total tested 1740550

Total positive Total Recovered Died
3327301932792263

Top 5 states for positive cases

MH : 67000 ( 12 crore Population) Died 568 yesterday
UP : 34000 (20 crore population) Died 195 yesterday
KL : 27000 (3 crore population) Died 28 yesterday
DL : 26000 (2 crore population) Died 306 yesterday
KA : 26000 (6 crore population) Died 123 yesterday


We can very well see how super state Kerala contained the virus from 1st wave till now and also another super state delhi , One ruled by commie and another ruled by pseudo commie .
Leave this for a while captain ji.
 

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What else do you expect apart from hoarding when you are bombarded by suffering porn all day?
Because if the disease isn't bad enough, mediarandis causing panic among populace.
I shut down TV in the morning after seeing the reporting by AajTak channel: Pure form of fear mongering. At such a critical times they are adding so much mircha masala and presenting it with such obnoxious sound tracks.
yesterday Fortis hospital tweet a SOS message that they have only 45 min of Oxygen left. This was even when They had informed Center Govt 6 hours back already and the Supply trucks were already on the way. The truck reached there just 10 min after the the tweet which means they knew about the movement and knowingly doing this under pressure from Delhi govt.
Similar case with Max hospital also
Govt needs to remember all this and take action on these hospitals once the covid is over.
 

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Even as reports of people running from pillar to post to get Remdesivir and Fabiflu medicine for corona patients has been on the rise, scientists, citing several researches and studies, are of the opinion that clinical outcome may not change by using the fabiflu or remdesivir. In the case of Remdesivir, in certain reports it has been though indicated that it can at best reduce hospital time as these medicines are anti-viral.
People rather should go for steroids along with other prescribed combinations to save the vital organs like lungs, heart, brain and kidney. Citing reports, Prof Ramji Upadhyaya, an expert on infectious disease, said that during the first wave, symptoms were different than in this wave. Then symptoms were showing only after fourth or fifth day and disease progress worsened after fifth to sixth day onwards, however, now if you don’t pay attention on the day one itself, it could affect the patient severely. Timing is very important, he said.
Rather than waiting for the RT-PCR report, which is taking three to four days, one should go for CBP, CRP, LDH and D-dimer blood tests, if one is showing even minor symptoms or is surrounded by positive family members at home, Prof Ram, who is a native of Agra in Uttar Pradesh, said and added, reports of these tests would come in a matter of few hours.
Medications like steroids and colchicine should be taken immediately in calibrated dose if the reports show hiked protein and inflammation. He said that it has been seen that steroids have shown great impact in saving the vital organs, if the same had been taken in time. Further elaborating on the reason for hurry, Prof Ram said that suppose one’s house has caught fire, instead of going into the cause of fire, one will first try to extinguish the fire.
Similarly, CBP and CRP will show the level of inflammation and if it is high, the first thing to be done is to reduce the same and it can be done by administering steroids in calibrated dose, the findings have shown, Prof Ram, who is the chief scientist at Ohm Oncology, USA, said.
Earlier, the level of inflammation rose after the fifth or sixth day, but now it is being seen that the level has seen big jump even on the first day and hence the protocol of the treatment should be changed, he said. Hence steroid from the first day is a better way to save the lives of corona patients, Prof Ram said and added that among steroids Dexamethasone and Prednisolone can be given.
He further said that High resolution CT alone would not help in identifying the infection as some shadow or patches in lungs could be because of environmental concern and the same could be misunderstood as Corona effect. Citing a study at King’s College London, Prof Ram, who is also the professor at Plasma Bioscience Research Centre (PBRC)/ Applied Medicine Research Centre, Kwangwoon University, Seoul, South Korea, further said they conducted a biopsy of Corona infected body and found that the lungs have got solidified due to blood clotting.
If the Corona infection reaches lungs, blood thinner should be given along with steroids to save the solidification of the lungs due to Coronavirus. However, the blood thinner should not be low molecular weight Heparin, which can induce thrombocytopenia, which is more common in females especially in those which are on any kind of hormonal replacement therapy or during pre-menopause stage. Chances of clotting are more in high-risk patients those who are above 45 years of age, Prof Ram further said.
It might be a good idea to start patients on steroids like Dexamethasone sooner to stop damage to organs, along with budesonide inhaler to help with lung inflammation.
 

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So did we really not see the oxygen shortage coming our way.
U would expect the gov to anticipate a second wave and ramp up the oxygen supply to double that of previous maximum case of 1 lakh.

The people laced but did the gov also?
The import of oxygen and conversion of industrial oxygen to medical is not going to yield immediate results. Reason is logistics - you need cryogenic containers (-90C) to transport in large quantities and we have a limited number of such containers.

What should have been done is augment existing hospitals with on-site oxygen generating plants.

I know Karnataka and some other states did this anticipating 2nd wave (news from Dec)
 

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It might be a good idea to start patients on steroids like Dexamethasone sooner to stop damage to organs, along with budesonide inhaler to help with lung inflammation.
I feel that the pharma companies producing Remdisivir are keeping news about effect of Dexamethasone under wraps as much as they can.
The moment someone post about inffectiveness of Remd. in general public and how Dexa works, tweets start flourishing about Remd and to burry news about Dexa.

Also, already seeing the effectiveness of Proning in order to increase the O2 level in critical patients. Saw reports of many people where they recovered even from 50% SpO2 level by practicing Proning for 2 days.
Even this things is getting burried on twitter.

The whole Left Ecosystem is active online to make the covid efforts a failure, false information freely flowing everywhere.
 

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The import of oxygen and conversion of industrial oxygen to medical is not going to yield immediate results. Reason is logistics, you need cryogenic containers (-90C) to transport in large quantities and we have a limited number of such containers.

What should have been done is augment existing hospitals with on-site oxygen generating plants. It would cost 10-20 crore per hospital.

I know Karnataka and some other states did this anticipating 2nd wave (news from Dec)
Someone mentioned yesterday that a good Oxygen generation plant cost even less than a crore. Smaller units start around 10-15 lakhs and bigger cost 50-70 lakhs.
 

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I feel that the pharma companies producing Remdisivir are keeping news about effect of Dexamethasone under wraps as much as they can.
The moment someone post about inffectiveness of Remd. in general public and how Dexa works, tweets start flourishing about Remd and to burry news about Dexa.

Also, already seeing the effectiveness of Proning in order to increase the O2 level in critical patients. Saw reports of many people where they recovered even from 50% SpO2 level by practicing Proning for 2 days.
Even this things is getting burried on twitter.

The whole Left Ecosystem is active online to make the covid efforts a failure, false information freely flowing everywhere.
Hope atleast this awakens Babaji to the need of media control.

Absolutely apocalyptic reporting and suffering porn being peddled, even on SM.
 
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Hope atleast this awakens Babaji to the need of media control.

Absolutely apocalyptic reporting and suffering porn being peddled, even on SM.
Sab kuch babaji ko hi nahi karna hai. Inke Cabinet mai sab Ch****e hi bhare pade hain. many are proud that they did not do any change in the ecosystem running for last 60 years.

Finance mai bhi duffer mataji ko rakha hua jo itna sba kuch hone ke baad bhi ulte seedhe deicion le rahi hain!

Time is to give powers in some area to other ministers and find correct ministers with spine for several ministries.
 

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I shut down TV in the morning after seeing the reporting by AajTak channel: Pure form of fear mongering. At such a critical times they are adding so much mircha masala and presenting it with such obnoxious sound tracks.
yesterday Fortis hospital tweet a SOS message that they have only 45 min of Oxygen left. This was even when They had informed Center Govt 6 hours back already and the Supply trucks were already on the way. The truck reached there just 10 min after the the tweet which means they knew about the movement and knowingly doing this under pressure from Delhi govt.
Similar case with Max hospital also
Govt needs to remember all this and take action on these hospitals once the covid is over.
same thing with Sangeeta reddy(Apollo hospitals) tweet yesterday saying, supply vehicle is not being allowed inside oxygen plant. Almost immediately she tweets, all fine thanks everybody.

durbaris tweet the first problem statement, give a gap of 15 mins and then the second one. Keep in mind durbaris are tweeting all this an hour after issue closed tweet was tweeted. which means they already knew issue is closed, and yet played panic games.
 

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Someone mentioned yesterday that a good Oxygen generation plant cost even less than a crore. Smaller units start around 10-15 lakhs and bigger cost 50-70 lakhs.
There are two types of such plants -

  • Liquefaction - converting air to liquid for separating oxygen. This is expensive. Industries use this because they want high purity
  • Molecular sieve - they are also called oxygen concentrators. It literally uses a sieve to filter out the O2 molecules based on differential size. You get slightly less purity. This is cheap and most medical oxygen is generated this way
 

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same thing with Sangeeta reddy(Apollo hospitals) tweet yesterday saying, supply vehicle is not being allowed inside oxygen plant. Almost immediately she tweets, all fine thanks everybody.

durbaris tweet the first problem statement, give a gap of 15 mins and then the second one. Keep in mind durbaris are tweeting all this an hour after issue closed tweet was tweeted. which means they already knew issue is closed, and yet played panic games.
Most of these big hospitals are of People who grew under hands of Luteyans Gang and old 10, Janpath. They regularly donates to them. So their loyalty is with them only.

They all are getting Toolkit with Tweets already ready for each kind of situations. 1 message and whole gang tweets same things at same time. Yeh Ch***ye thora aage piche bhi tweet nahi karte and make it very obvious.
 

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Hope atleast this awakens Babaji to the need of media control.

Absolutely apocalyptic reporting and suffering porn being peddled, even on SM.
Although what you are saying is true, but we need constant sensational repoting to get things in the thick skulls of our people.
Sober reminder before every call or via SMS is simply not working.
 

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Most of these big hospitals are of People whoe grew under hands of Luteyans Gang and old 10, Janpath. They regularly donotes to them. So their loyality is with them only.

They all are getting Toolkit with Tweets already ready for each kind of situations. 1 message and whole gang tweets same things at same time. Yeh Ch***ye thora aage piche bhi tweet nahi karte and make it very obvious.
Why is it that big hospital chains do not have O2 generators?
 

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