Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

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There is no need to panic people. Stop watching news for few days. Get yourself vaccinated. Older population is already inoculated.

Only 1-2% cases will need oxygen and that too for 3-4 days before remission of infection starts.

The unnecessary use of oxygen by positive cases with no sever or moderate symptoms is driving the demand high thus shortage. Just read an article that the ventilators requirement is low and oxygen use is high. People are probably hoarding oxygen cylinders and doing self oxygen therapy.

People here are not panicking because of the disease but because of the usual 5th column gandmasti being increased yet again after a lull of 1-2 months

 

[HitmanBlood]

Don’t go by what is written in media. A lot of sensational rants are being published. A hospital going to HC for oxygen looks like a politically motivated trick. Patient dying due to leak and in the same state people dying due to fire broke out in the hospital looks all fishy to me. It seems we are at war, waged by sleeper cells fully backed by political parties.

On capacity it depends on the size of the hospital and the kind of specialisation they are.

One instance I ran 15 bed ICU on a night shift with all ventilators in use consuming 3 to 6 litre of oxygen per minutes.

The next day my admin ran into me almost fainted hearing alarms going off at 30% remaining. she told me just 2 days ago the cylinders were changed.

In other wards the consumption is not that high. ER with beds 10 beds 3-4 litres of Oxygen consumption + 15 beds ICU at full capacity would last 48 hours. This is central supply setup with 8 cylinder each having 7080 litre oxygen at 220 psi.

If Hospital OT is busy with many surgeries in line the same ICU ventilator consumption is required.

When Librandus barked at Piyush Goel I was about to write on this subject. The judicious use of oxygen which is 2-3 litres per minute is always enforced. Some times ward boys or nurses will just open the knobs to max flow without being considerate. The use of oxygen is at judicious flows guided by clinical requirement is life protecting. Don’t ask me but I learnt it the hard way. Only for nebuliser for few minute or half max flow is given.

Without digressing more I would say depending on capacity of the hospital a minimum 7 days of oxygen supply at 80% running capacity is generally bought. If you are running at full capacity which is rare TBH, at least 4 days of supply is kept.

In cities the supply network is quite good and monthly accounts are maintained and Hospital can avail credit for many weeks.

Just to add more medical oxygen is sterile oxygen the production is slightly slower than industrial.

I smell George Soros in this. He had sworn to get rid of modi no matter how much money he has to spend. If we look at the tactics used here it is very similar to what they did to Trump in 2020.

Every death being blamed on central gov.

Libby run states doing major mismanagement.

Head of libby states constantly crying about inadequate help from center.

Media in nonstop proaganda mode.

All leftist SM handles suddenly activated.

Major protest also happning along the pandemic which none blame.

This is tamplet that destroyed Trump in 2nd election. Now Soros is doing it to Modi. But questions is why? Because of major state elections coming next year. After Bengal it is clear that Modi will capture majority in both houses and permanently install strong RW foundation in India. The only way to stop him is by defeating BJP in UP and Guj elections.

 

[indus]

There is no need to panic people. Stop watching news for few days. Get yourself vaccinated. Older population is already inoculated.

Only 1-2% cases will need oxygen and that too for 3-4 days before remission of infection starts.

The unnecessary use of oxygen by positive cases with no sever or moderate symptoms is driving the demand high thus shortage. Just read an article that the ventilators requirement is low and oxygen use is high. People are probably hoarding oxygen cylinders and doing self oxygen therapy.

With 3 L cases per day, even 01 percent comes out to be additional load of 3000 patients requiring oxygen support everyday. Its sufficient to overwhelm medical infra leading to shortages, hoarding, demand being not met which is what is happening right now. Clearly our hospital admin, Govts, did not anticipate this situation.

 

[Flying Dagger]

China has very few cases of the disease so the trials can only happen elsewhere in the world. Overall, the effect is good and Chile is going forward with it.

China’s vaccines put to real-world test against Covid-19

Studies of vaccinated populations in Chile and Brazil show Sinovac can reduce deaths, counter variants

www.scmp.com

"China vaccines put to real-world test against Covid-19

• Studies of vaccinated populations in Chile and Brazil show Sinovac can reduce deaths, counter variants
• Efficacy rates are lower than mRNA shots but experts say that means more people will need to receive vaccinations to achieve herd immunity

a study of 10.5 million people in Chile found the Sinovac vaccine was 67 per cent effective in preventing symptomatic Covid-19, and 80 per cent effective in preventing deaths – meaning that 100 fatal cases of the disease would have been reduced to just 20 if everyone was vaccinated. The researchers also found the vaccine was around 85 per cent effective at preventing hospitalisations.

The results were not far off those from a phase 3 clinical trial in Brazil, which found the vaccine was around 50 per cent effective and returned a similar figure to Chile’s real-world study for the prevention of moderate and severe cases of the disease. In contrast, a Turkish clinical trial found an 83.5 per cent rate of effectiveness, a result which could underline the importance of local circumstances. "

Also 26% of Chile is vaccinated with mainly Chinese Sinovac versus over 50% of the US with mainly Moderna and Pfizer.

The per million infected rate in US is 98,051 vs just 59,300 in Chile.

Wait... So you are suggesting Chinese virus isn't widespread in China but instead they used it as a biowarfare weapon and spread it around the world


Last year travel ban for chinks were called racists all over the media while Hug me I am Chinese drama in Italy resulted in huge no. of dead bodies.

Regarding chile ... No they are seeing high death rate even among vaccinated people too .

It's high time someone nuke these chinks they may have more of such virus crawling around in their labs.

 

[notaname]

Seems good person

 

[shade]

I smell George Soros in this. He had sworn to get rid of modi no matter how much money he has to spend. If we look at the tactics used here it is very similar to what they did to Trump in 2020.

Every death being blamed on central gov.

Libby run states doing major mismanagement.

Head of libby states constantly crying about inadequate help from center.

Media in nonstop proaganda mode.

All leftist SM handles suddenly activated.

Major protest also happning along the pandemic which none blame.

This is tamplet that destroyed Trump in 2nd election. Now Soros is doing it to Modi. But questions is why? Because of major state elections coming next year. After Bengal it is clear that Modi will capture majority in both houses and permanently install strong RW foundation in India. The only way to stop him is by defeating BJP in UP and Guj elections.

It's not the elections, Modi and his fellows in Bhajipao are a long threat to Globalists and their schemes for India compared to Congressiyas and other (((Idea of India))) walas, same as Trumpy, Bolsonaro, Netanyahu, Orban, Erdogand all are.
Xi is also part of this illustrious list but he is simply too powerful rn so they have decided to focus on the more easier ones.
Babaji has to put on a show of strength to make it clear to them at his and his parties asses are glued to the kursis of power through feviquik, they can't be removed, and they are the leaders of new India, so globalists will have to be good boys and "negotiate" with us like they do with the Chinks and recently Erdogand.

 

[SexyChineseLady]

Wait... So you are suggesting Chinese virus isn't widespread in China but instead they used it as a biowarfare weapon and spread it around the world


Last year travel ban for chinks were called racists all over the media while Hug me I am Chinese drama in Italy resulted in huge no. of dead bodies.

Regarding chile ... No they are seeing high death rate even among vaccinated people too .

It's high time someone nuke these chinks they may have more of such virus crawling around in their labs.

Okay you tagged me for a response so I responded. I am sorry you feel that you need use racial slurs on a response.

Chile's COVID-19 Vaccination Program Was Largely Successful — But The Virus Persists

Chile has been praised worldwide for its COVID-19 vaccination program, inoculating a higher proportion of its population than all but two countries. Yet Chile's battle against the pandemic isn't over.

www.gpb.org

"
REEVES: Chile's government has been running ads, urging people to get vaccinated. So far, about a third of the population have had both shots, mostly of the Chinese-made CoronaVac. This is making a difference, says Dr. Miguel Orion (ph), who's on a scientific board advising Chile's government.

MIGUEL ORION: We have seen a clear reduction in ICU occupancy in the over 70s."

 

[hit&run]

With 3 L cases per day, even 01 percent comes out to be additional load of 3000 patients requiring oxygen support everyday. Its sufficient to overwhelm medical infra leading to shortages, hoarding, demand being not met which is what is happening right now. Clearly our hospital admin, Govts, did not anticipate this situation.

Modi many times on national TV talked about risk of exponential growth in very short time.

With all the media frenzy I see hospitals managing the shortage quite well till today or am I missing something?

Oxygen BTW is not cure, it protects when your immune system is fighting the virus. More sever cases with inadequate immune response can succumb to the infection even with timely oxygen or ventilator assistance. Also many other secondary reasons including hospital acquired infection add to the morbidity rate.

 

[Flying Dagger]

Okay you tagged me for a response so I responded. I am sorry you feel you need use racial slurs.

Chile's COVID-19 Vaccination Program Was Largely Successful — But The Virus Persists

Chile has been praised worldwide for its COVID-19 vaccination program, inoculating a higher proportion of its population than all but two countries. Yet Chile's battle against the pandemic isn't over.

www.gpb.org

"
REEVES: Chile's government has been running ads, urging people to get vaccinated. So far, about a third of the population have had both shots, mostly of the Chinese-made CoronaVac. This is making a difference, says Dr. Miguel Orion (ph), who's on a scientific board advising Chile's government.

MIGUEL ORION: We have seen a clear reduction in ICU occupancy in the over 70s."

Lol what is racist in calling Chinese virus Chinese... get yourself treated may be you need a visit in a concentration camp like your fellow uighur muslims from China.

CCP bots are such a shameless breed of virus who mutate every moment to save smelly filthy pingpong XI.

 

[doreamon]

I smell George Soros in this. He had sworn to get rid of modi no matter how much money he has to spend. If we look at the tactics used here it is very similar to what they did to Trump in 2020.

Every death being blamed on central gov.

Libby run states doing major mismanagement.

Head of libby states constantly crying about inadequate help from center.

Media in nonstop proaganda mode.

All leftist SM handles suddenly activated.

Major protest also happning along the pandemic which none blame.

This is tamplet that destroyed Trump in 2nd election. Now Soros is doing it to Modi. But questions is why? Because of major state elections coming next year. After Bengal it is clear that Modi will capture majority in both houses and permanently install strong RW foundation in India. The only way to stop him is by defeating BJP in UP and Guj elections.

They shd have remained prepared knowing all this ... we have up election next yr . And still half of bengal to vote . even many in govt wld nt believe it saying it some wild right wing conspiracy .. Below is a nd tv reporting . Cant say how much truth in it .. But there were same kind of stories on exact behavior of some UPA 2 ministers . They ll milk such incident .

 

[IndianYonko]

Modi many times on national TV talked about risk of exponential growth in very short time.

With all the media frenzy I see hospitals managing the shortage quite well till today or I am missing something?

Oxygen BTW is not cure, it protects when your immune system is fighting the virus. More sever cases with inadequate immune response can succumb to the infection even with timely oxygen or ventilator assistance. Also many other secondary reasons including hospital acquired infection add to the morbidity rate.

Covid is not the issue people will forget; but the main issue in sentiment shift. Do you know Modi has spoken twice in 2 days. But I don't see media coverage atleast not on scale it used to be. This is the main similarity with what happened to Trump and it scares me.

 

[Kumata]

Okay you tagged me for a response so I responded. I am sorry you feel that you need use racial slurs on a response.

Chile's COVID-19 Vaccination Program Was Largely Successful — But The Virus Persists

Chile has been praised worldwide for its COVID-19 vaccination program, inoculating a higher proportion of its population than all but two countries. Yet Chile's battle against the pandemic isn't over.

www.gpb.org

"
REEVES: Chile's government has been running ads, urging people to get vaccinated. So far, about a third of the population have had both shots, mostly of the Chinese-made CoronaVac. This is making a difference, says Dr. Miguel Orion (ph), who's on a scientific board advising Chile's government.

MIGUEL ORION: We have seen a clear reduction in ICU occupancy in the over 70s."

Yeah such is efficiency that New cases are more in 2 nd wave . rest statements of president - well picked up the vaccine.. how does he say that he put his own foot on dagger..

Poor chileans !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Suryavanshi]

@hit&run what are the chances that we are gonna need another round of vaccination for the so called Indian variant of the Kung Flu virus.
COVAXIN so far is working on UK and South African strain

 

[another_armchair]

 

[Kumata]

@hit&run what are the chances that we are gonna need another round of vaccination for the so called Indian variant of the Kung Flu virus.
COVAXIN so far is working on UK and South African strain

COVAXIN protects against this Indian variant also

 

[HitmanBlood]

It's not the elections, Modi and his fellows in Bhajipao are a long threat to Globalists and their schemes for India compared to Congressiyas and other (((Idea of India))) walas, same as Trumpy, Bolsonaro, Netanyahu, Orban, Erdogand all are.
Xi is also part of this illustrious list but he is simply too powerful rn so they have decided to focus on the more easier ones.
Babaji has to put on a show of strength to make it clear to them at his and his parties asses are glued to the kursis of power through feviquik, they can't be removed, and they are the leaders of new India, so globalists will have to be good boys and "negotiate" with us like they do with the Chinks and recently Erdogand.

Right now Modi is riding popular wave. He still has to cement his lagacy by modifying Indian constitution to be less socialist more Nationalist. For this he needs 1/3 majority in both houses before 2024. Once that happens all 70 years of Khangress rule is undone. All milaards will become powerless to him. At this point he becomes a true leader of new India and all globalist can do is negotiate with him like they do with 11 ping pong.

This their last stand to prevent this.

 

[Kumata]

Right now Modi is riding popular wave. He still has to cement his lagacy by modifying Indian constitution to be less socialist more Nationalist. For this he needs 1/3 majority in both houses before 2024. Once that happens all 70 years of Khangress rule is undone. All milaards will become powerless to him. At this point he becomes a true leader of new India and all globalist can do is negotiate with him like they do with 11 ping pong.

On the side of being cautious, I hope what you are saying is true

but

for me twist is that baba is after noble peace price .., so no amount of majority can help ... he already have majority in both houses.. so wondering what else he needs to undo the shit of 70 yrs....

Some body said, there is no good time to do good things.. Now is the time to do all good things.

 

[yourgodisweak]

if you are obese you better start running & dieting. Some 40% mortality cases are of obese in usa. There are also lot of studies now showing obese people having severe symptoms

 

[Cheran]

Again another Fake news peddled by pappuan media & its supporters busted.

 

[hit&run]

@hit&run what are the chances that we are gonna need another round of vaccination for the so called Indian variant of the Kung Flu virus.
COVAXIN so far is working on UK and South African strain

People are over thinking. There are peer reviewed studies on how old BCG vaccination can provide cross protection via innate immune cell population that is is trained immunity to lung parenchyma along with adaptive immunity after COVID infection.

Stop worrying about variants. Get your immunity trained with closest possible material depicting COVID infection.