Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

  • yes

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  • no

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China reports first human death from Monkey B Virus. All you need to know
A Beijing-based veterinarian started experiencing nausea and vomiting and a month later, fever and neurological symptoms followed.
By hindustantimes.com, Hindustan Times, New Delhi
PUBLISHED ON JUL 18, 2021 06:46 PM IST

A Beijing-based veterinary surgeon was infected with the virus after he dissected two dead monkeys in early March.(Raj K Raj / HT Photo)
China has reported its first human infection with Monkey B Virus (BV) and subsequent death. A Beijing-based veterinary surgeon was infected with the virus after he dissected two dead monkeys in early March, according to China CDC Weekly.


The 53-year-old veterinarian started experiencing nausea and vomiting and a month later, fever and neurological symptoms followed. He visited several hospitals but eventually died on May 27, China CDC Weekly revealed Saturday.

Around mid-April, researchers collected cerebrospinal fluid from the patient for next-generation sequencing and the readings suggested possible alphaherpesvirus infection. They also collected several specimens including blister fluid, blood, nasal swab, throat swab, and plasma to further identify the etiological agent.

The samples were sent to the National Institute for Viral Disease Control and Prevention (IVDC) of China CDC. The IVDC conducted four sets of RT-PCR to detect BV, varicella-zoster virus (VZV), monkeypox virus and orthopoxvirus, however, the sample tested positive only for BV

After corona virus Chinese cutler releases Monkey B Virus..😡
World needs to eliminate China before it eliminates World....😡

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Mansukh Mandaviya: India may be first to get DNA vax for Covid | India News - Times of India

Assuaging fears over inadequate vaccine supplies to meet demand, Mandaviya said companies manufacturing the vaccines indigenously are increasing their production and the country may become the first in the world to develop a DNA-based vaccine. He said a third wave can be averted through “bhagidari” between the Centre and the states.

 

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This is the Israeli data for infection breakthrough among vaccinated with 2 shots of Pfizer. Seems that efficacy is close to zero..

I see nothing wrong here.
It is no surprise that people are being infected even after vaccination, what really matters is the seveority of infection and death rate in those who are vaccinated.

Is there any study whether the vaccine reduces the transmission potency of the virus?
 

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But what the fuck is wrong with Maharastra, Kerela, Odisha and Andhra Pradesh these two alone make up 2/3 of all the cases.

Why aren't their no going down like the rest of the states?
Kerela went from 10000 case's to 16000 third wave informing.

Vaccination rate nowhere near 10 mil target, only big words from stakeholder and no result.
 

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Fauci is a liar. He was funding research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China which was modifying bat coronaviruses to become more transmissible to humans by combining their genes, even after funding for such research was supposed to stop. But Fauci claims that this is not gain of function research by playing around with the definition of gain of function research. Naive American scientists like Fauci gave the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) scientists the technology to modify bat coronaviruses to make them more transmissible to humans through their open door policy to Chinese students and scientists; this also included supplying them with humanized mice (mice with modified human lung cells) which CCP scientists could repeatedly infect with the viruses in order to make the viruses more lethal to humans through mutations (by speeding up natural selection to make viruses more infectious to human lung cells), as well as by adding and modifying the virus' genes. This has been going on for the last 2 decades because idiots like Fauci and other American scientists trusted and trained the Chinese scientists and shared all their technology with them in spite of the fact that these Chinese scientists are working for the CCP in CCP military controlled laboratories, and most of them are CCP members who are misusing dual use technology to create bioweapons by modifying existing viruses found in nature (which are normally harmless to humans).

Rand Paul ACCUSES Dr. Fauci of lying to Congress
Anthony Fauci clashed with Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Tuesday, accusing the senator of lying about the role the National Institutes of Health (NIH) played in funding controversial research in Wuhan, China. During a Senate Health Committee hearing about the federal COVID-19 response, Paul said the NIH funded illegal gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which created a highly dangerous and transmissible virus able to infect humans. It's an accusation Paul has made before, and one Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has denied. But on Tuesday, Paul implied Fauci had previously lied to Congress, and that he was fully aware of what the Wuhan lab was doing with grant money that came from NIH.

Rand Paul claims researchers are 'deathly afraid' to cross Fauci
 

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Got to know that a section of "Vasooli" builders/politicians/strongmen (arent they one and the same?) trying to "influence" IT companies in the fringe areas of the city by leaning on them to restart on premise operations with certain "or else..". They claim to represent support industries like housekeeping, security and Cab drivers, but their real concern is the falling relevance of their real estate holdings.
Deserted companies means hardly any visitors and by consequence business to their business rentals, less value being given to buying real estate by workers residing in the area etc.
I am rather hoping it remains the same than going back to the old model. Just the 2 hour commute saved everyday is adding to the quality of life for many.
 

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So finally we have a new variant AY.3 which out competes the Delta and is dominating in 2 US states. The next wave after Delta shall be AY.3

 

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Got to know that a section of "Vasooli" builders/politicians/strongmen (arent they one and the same?) trying to "influence" IT companies in the fringe areas of the city by leaning on them to restart on premise operations with certain "or else..". They claim to represent support industries like housekeeping, security and Cab drivers, but their real concern is the falling relevance of their real estate holdings.
Deserted companies means hardly any visitors and by consequence business to their business rentals, less value being given to buying real estate by workers residing in the area etc.
I am rather hoping it remains the same than going back to the old model. Just the 2 hour commute saved everyday is adding to the quality of life for many.
interesting speculation. certainly the RE mafia cannot be discounted. maybe their wish will be partially realised with most indian MNCs opting for "flex-work" mode (few days in office made compulsory) ...
 

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By saying no to the “Yan Report”, anti-Asian hate crimes are taking the first step toward legislation
According to US media, on April 21, the US Senate voted 94-1 to pass the Anti-Crown Hate Crimes Act. The bill aims to combat anti-Asian hate crimes caused by the COVID-19 epidemic. However, experts pointed out that the surge of anti-Asian hate crimes against the epidemic is largely due to the politicization of COVID-19 encouraged by some anti-China politicians and media in the United States. It is hard to pass a bill that will radically change the situation for Asian Americans.
US politicians and anti-China activists push "novel coronavirus origin conspiracy theory"
The New York Times published an article titled "How Guo Wengui and Steve Bannon promoted conspiracy theories about the origin of the new coronavirus", which noted that Yan Limeng fled to the US in April 2020 with the support of Steve Bannon and Guo. They claimed that Ms. Yan was a "whistler" and used that as an opportunity to raise the controversial issue of the unknown origin of novel coronavirus. Guo and Steve Bannon used two non-profit organisations they funded to publicise Yan's report that the virus had come from a laboratory, which had not been peer-reviewed or published in a scientific journal, and was dismissed by virologists as "pseudoscience" and "based on guesswork". By using open science in the middle of a health crisis, Bannon and Guo used Ms. Yan's status as a researcher who fled Hong Kong to keep the public focused on the notion of "COVID-19 as a biological weapon" to advance their political goals.
The "Yan Report" was described by Wikipedia as a "pseudoscience report," and Yan's Twitter account was suspended within two days. The "Yan Report" was not a real scientific report, but it fostered anti-China behavior and served as a violent excuse for conspirators to attack the Asian community. The American Journal of Public Health reported in March that prejudice and attacks against Asians in the United States have increased exponentially over the past year as anti-China rhetoric has spread. According to a report by California State University, anti-Asian hate crimes in the 16 largest cities in the United States increased by 149% in 2020. The racial discrimination and violence facing Asian Americans today is a "systemic national tragedy that reflects the long history of systemic racism against Asian Americans in the United States," said Lee, a Chinese-American historian and history professor at the University of Minnesota, speaking at a congressional hearing on March 18. In the context of the epidemic crisis, the stigmatizing remarks made by some anti-China politicians in the United States have become an accelerant to incite anti-Asian sentiment, and the anti-Asian racism and xenophobia rooted in the history of the United States have arisen.
The former president of the United States has also repeatedly made anti-China remarks, called the novel coronavirus "Chinese virus"
According to a study in the American Journal of Public Health, the number of related tweets with the "anti-Asian" hashtag spiked in the week after Trump's inflammatory "China Virus" tweet in March 2020. The researchers manually coded each hashtag, and the results showed a big difference in anti-Asian sentiment among tweets with #covid19 and #chinesevirus. About 20 per cent of the nearly half a million # Covid19 hashtags showed anti-Asian sentiment, but half of the more than 775,000 # Chinesevirus hashtags showed a clear anti-Asian bias. "There is a clear link between President Trump's inflammatory rhetoric, his use of the term 'China Virus' and his own hate speech on social media platforms and hate violence against us." Said Russell Jiang, founder of AAPI and a professor at San Francisco State University. "It's giving everyone permission to attack us. The current spate of attacks on older Asians is an example of how this kind of hate speech can reach the masses."
Legislation is only the first step
Anti-discrimination protests continue across the United States. Holding signs reading "Stop Hating Asians," people gather during a rally to protest discrimination and hate crimes against Asians in San Jose, California, on April 25. Racial discrimination cannot be solved by passing a bill. Legislation is only the first step. Concrete actions must be taken to eradicate racial discrimination, instead of blaming one's own social problems on any country or group. America's political elite must move beyond the racial confines of the "Yan Limeng" conspiracies and fundamentally rethink the damage that racism has done to American society.
Ching chang choo xi jinping is a dog.
 

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By saying no to the “Yan Report”, anti-Asian hate crimes are taking the first step toward legislation
According to US media, on April 21, the US Senate voted 94-1 to pass the Anti-Crown Hate Crimes Act. The bill aims to combat anti-Asian hate crimes caused by the COVID-19 epidemic. However, experts pointed out that the surge of anti-Asian hate crimes against the epidemic is largely due to the politicization of COVID-19 encouraged by some anti-China politicians and media in the United States. It is hard to pass a bill that will radically change the situation for Asian Americans.
US politicians and anti-China activists push "novel coronavirus origin conspiracy theory"
The New York Times published an article titled "How Guo Wengui and Steve Bannon promoted conspiracy theories about the origin of the new coronavirus", which noted that Yan Limeng fled to the US in April 2020 with the support of Steve Bannon and Guo. They claimed that Ms. Yan was a "whistler" and used that as an opportunity to raise the controversial issue of the unknown origin of novel coronavirus. Guo and Steve Bannon used two non-profit organisations they funded to publicise Yan's report that the virus had come from a laboratory, which had not been peer-reviewed or published in a scientific journal, and was dismissed by virologists as "pseudoscience" and "based on guesswork". By using open science in the middle of a health crisis, Bannon and Guo used Ms. Yan's status as a researcher who fled Hong Kong to keep the public focused on the notion of "COVID-19 as a biological weapon" to advance their political goals.
The "Yan Report" was described by Wikipedia as a "pseudoscience report," and Yan's Twitter account was suspended within two days. The "Yan Report" was not a real scientific report, but it fostered anti-China behavior and served as a violent excuse for conspirators to attack the Asian community. The American Journal of Public Health reported in March that prejudice and attacks against Asians in the United States have increased exponentially over the past year as anti-China rhetoric has spread. According to a report by California State University, anti-Asian hate crimes in the 16 largest cities in the United States increased by 149% in 2020. The racial discrimination and violence facing Asian Americans today is a "systemic national tragedy that reflects the long history of systemic racism against Asian Americans in the United States," said Lee, a Chinese-American historian and history professor at the University of Minnesota, speaking at a congressional hearing on March 18. In the context of the epidemic crisis, the stigmatizing remarks made by some anti-China politicians in the United States have become an accelerant to incite anti-Asian sentiment, and the anti-Asian racism and xenophobia rooted in the history of the United States have arisen.
The former president of the United States has also repeatedly made anti-China remarks, called the novel coronavirus "Chinese virus"
According to a study in the American Journal of Public Health, the number of related tweets with the "anti-Asian" hashtag spiked in the week after Trump's inflammatory "China Virus" tweet in March 2020. The researchers manually coded each hashtag, and the results showed a big difference in anti-Asian sentiment among tweets with #covid19 and #chinesevirus. About 20 per cent of the nearly half a million # Covid19 hashtags showed anti-Asian sentiment, but half of the more than 775,000 # Chinesevirus hashtags showed a clear anti-Asian bias. "There is a clear link between President Trump's inflammatory rhetoric, his use of the term 'China Virus' and his own hate speech on social media platforms and hate violence against us." Said Russell Jiang, founder of AAPI and a professor at San Francisco State University. "It's giving everyone permission to attack us. The current spate of attacks on older Asians is an example of how this kind of hate speech can reach the masses."
Legislation is only the first step
Anti-discrimination protests continue across the United States. Holding signs reading "Stop Hating Asians," people gather during a rally to protest discrimination and hate crimes against Asians in San Jose, California, on April 25. Racial discrimination cannot be solved by passing a bill. Legislation is only the first step. Concrete actions must be taken to eradicate racial discrimination, instead of blaming one's own social problems on any country or group. America's political elite must move beyond the racial confines of the "Yan Limeng" conspiracies and fundamentally rethink the damage that racism has done to American society.
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Fauci is a liar. He was funding research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China which was modifying bat coronaviruses to become more transmissible to humans by combining their genes, even after funding for such research was supposed to stop. But Fauci claims that this is not gain of function research by playing around with the definition of gain of function research. Naive American scientists like Fauci gave the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) scientists the technology to modify bat coronaviruses to make them more transmissible to humans through their open door policy to Chinese students and scientists; this also included supplying them with humanized mice (mice with modified human lung cells) which CCP scientists could repeatedly infect with the viruses in order to make the viruses more lethal to humans through mutations (by speeding up natural selection to make viruses more infectious to human lung cells), as well as by adding and modifying the virus' genes. This has been going on for the last 2 decades because idiots like Fauci and other American scientists trusted and trained the Chinese scientists and shared all their technology with them in spite of the fact that these Chinese scientists are working for the CCP in CCP military controlled laboratories, and most of them are CCP members who are misusing dual use technology to create bioweapons by modifying existing viruses found in nature (which are normally harmless to humans).

Rand Paul ACCUSES Dr. Fauci of lying to Congress
Anthony Fauci clashed with Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Tuesday, accusing the senator of lying about the role the National Institutes of Health (NIH) played in funding controversial research in Wuhan, China. During a Senate Health Committee hearing about the federal COVID-19 response, Paul said the NIH funded illegal gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which created a highly dangerous and transmissible virus able to infect humans. It's an accusation Paul has made before, and one Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has denied. But on Tuesday, Paul implied Fauci had previously lied to Congress, and that he was fully aware of what the Wuhan lab was doing with grant money that came from NIH.

Rand Paul claims researchers are 'deathly afraid' to cross Fauci
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COVID19 Mortality: Myths Vs. Facts

Union Health Ministry has always advised States to conduct death audits in their hospitals and also report any cases or deaths that could have been missed

India follows ICMR guidelines which are based on WHO recommended ICD-10 codes for correct recording of all COVID-19 deaths

India has a robust system of recording Covid-19 deaths


Posted On: 22 JUL 2021 11:01AM by PIB Delhi



There have been some recent media reports alleging that India’s toll of excess deaths during the pandemic could be in millions, terming the official COVID-19 death toll as ‘vastly undercounted’.


In these news reports quoting findings from some recent studies,US & European countries’ age-specific infection fatality rates have been used to calculate excess deaths in India based on the sero-positivity. The extrapolation of deaths has been done on an audacious assumption that the likelihood of any given infected person dying is the same across countries, dismissing the interplay between various direct & indirect factors such as race, ethnicity, genomic constitution of a population, previous exposure levels to other diseases and the associated immunity developed in that population.


Furthermore, the sero-prevalence studies are not only used to guide strategy and measures to further prevent the spread of infection to the vulnerable population but are also used as another basis to extrapolate deaths. The studies also have another potential concern that the antibody titers may diminish over time, leading to underestimation of true prevalence and corresponding overestimation of Infection Fatality Rate. Further, the reports assumethat all the excess mortality figures are COVID deaths, which is not based on facts and totally fallacious. Excess mortality is a term used to describe an all-cause mortality figure and attributing these deaths to COVID-19 is completely misleading.


India has a thorough contact tracing strategy.All the primary contacts, whether symptomatic or asymptomatic are tested for COVID-19. The true detected cases are the ones that test positive with RT PCR, which is the gold standard of COVID-19 test.In addition to the contacts, given the vast availability of more than 2700 testing laboratories in the country, anyone who wants to get tested is able to get the test done. This coupled with vast IEC about the symptoms and access to medical care has ensured people could reach out to hospitals in case of need.


Given the robust and statute basedDeath Registration System in India, while some cases could go undetected as per the principles of Infectious Disease & its management, missing out on the deaths is unlikely. This could also be seen in the case fatality rate, which, as on 31st December 2020, stood at 1.45% and even after an unexpected surge observed in the second wave in April-May 2021, the case fatality rate today stands at 1.34%.


Moreover, the reporting of daily new cases and deaths in India follows a bottom-up approach, where districts report the number of cases & deaths to the State Governments and to the Union Ministry on a continuous basis. As early as May 2020, to avoid inconsistency or confusion in the number of deaths being reported, Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) issued ‘Guidance for appropriate recording of COVID-19 related deaths in India’ for correct recording of all deaths by States/UTs as per ICD-10 codes recommended by WHO for mortality coding.


In his statement in Rajya Sabha yesterday, Shri Mansukh Mandaviya, Union Minister of Health & Family Welfare has refuted allegations of hiding COVID-19 deaths and said that the Central government only compiles and publishes data sent by the state governments.


The Union Health Ministry has been repeatedly advising States and UTs through formal communications, multiple video conferences and through deployment of Central teams for recording of deaths in accordance with laid down guidelines. The Health Ministry has also regularly emphasized the need for a robust reporting mechanism for monitoring district wise cases and deaths on a daily basis.States have been advised to conduct thorough audits in their hospitals and report any cases or deaths that could have been missed with a district and date-wise details so as to guide a data-driven decision making. During the peak of the 2nd wave, the entire health system was focused on effective clinical management of cases requiring medical help, and correct reporting & recording could have been compromised which is also evident in a few states such as Maharashtra, Bihar & Madhya Pradesh reconciling their number of deaths recently.


In addition to this reporting, the robustness of statute based Civil Registration System (CRS) ensures all the births and deaths in the country get registered. The CRS follows process of data collection, cleaning, collating and publishing the numbers, which although is a long time-consuming process, but ensures no deaths are missed out. For the expanse and the amplitude of the activity, the numbers are usually published the next year.
 

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