Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

[ladder]

So what exactly is the point of vaccinating people who have had a " non WHO certified vaccine' ? Either they are treated as non vaccinated or as vaccinated. Nothing else makes sense.

Sense? This WHO vaccine certification itself makes sense?

What sense the 72 hours Negative RTPCR holds? Can't a person be infected after he/she has undergone test?
It's reducing the risk rather than eliminating as the means of elimination of risk is currently impractical.

Thus the differentiation between the non-approved vaccination and 'un vaccinated'

The difference is between reasonable caution ( un approved vaccination) vs necessity ( unvaccinated).

Remember Sputnik et al. are unapproved because of incomplete data and not because of the fact that their efficacy is below 50%.

I wish things were that simple. If it were Chinese wouldn't have run after everybody with an anal probe. They would have respected the negetive RTPCR from atleast some countries.

These things are more about one-upmanship than logic.

Taking your original logic further, what is the guarantee that anybody who has taken vaccine sufficiently prior to travel has developed antibody? Maintains in him both sufficient quality and quantity of antibody?
With what guarantee can you say there won't be any breakthrough infections through him/her and that wouldn't spread during this breakthrough infection?

While the lower prevalence of all of the above factors is true among vaccinated cohort, this vaccination passport is at individual level where all the above can be presumed and not guaranteed.

Thus, my original assertion about differentiation between the un approved vaccinated person and non vaccinated person.

 

[Jimih]

Not going to happen. Pedo Biden is Chini lapdog. The Republican have no power.

I meant Saurav Jha's love for China.

 

[Nicky G]

This is the future, regular new variants that need 'boosters'. More business.

Vulnerable people may need vaccine boosters this year, scientists say

 

[Jimih]

Pompeo says many in NIH tried to suppress work to expose China


Ex-CIA director and former Secretary of State now whining like a little baby

 

[Kumata]

Not going to happen. Pedo Biden is Chini lapdog. The Republican have no power.

Dog is slowly turning on it, s masters... Wait...

Politics is funny...... TBH, the narrative trump set in his last 6 months is too strong even for

 

[Kumata]

Pompeo says many in NIH tried to suppress work to expose China


Ex-CIA director and former Secretary of State now whining like a little baby

Atleast he called a spade a spade...

 

[Kumata]

Meet 'The Seeker': Indian who helped find evidence for Covid-19 lab leak

The Seeker, an Indian with a profile picture of Bengal tribal art, helped find evidence for Covid-19 lab-leak hypothesis. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

 

[Jimih]

 

[Indrajit]

Sense? This WHO vaccine certification itself makes sense?

What sense the 72 hours Negative RTPCR holds? Can't a person be infected after he/she has undergone test?
It's reducing the risk rather than eliminating as the means of elimination of risk is currently impractical.

Thus the differentiation between the non-approved vaccination and 'un vaccinated'

The difference is between reasonable caution ( un approved vaccination) vs necessity ( unvaccinated).

Remember Sputnik et al. are unapproved because of incomplete data and not because of the fact that their efficacy is below 50%.

I wish things were that simple. If it were Chinese wouldn't have run after everybody with an anal probe. They would have respected the negetive RTPCR from atleast some countries.

These things are more about one-upmanship than logic.

Taking your original logic further, what is the guarantee that anybody who has taken vaccine sufficiently prior to travel has developed antibody? Maintains in him both sufficient quality and quantity of antibody?
With what guarantee can you say there won't be any breakthrough infections through him/her and that wouldn't spread during this breakthrough infection?

While the lower prevalence of all of the above factors is true among vaccinated cohort, this vaccination passport is at individual level where all the above can be presumed and not guaranteed.

Thus, my original assertion about differentiation between the un approved vaccinated person and non vaccinated person.

There are risks with everything but the very concept of vaccine passports is acceptance of vaccination guarantee. If there are doubts about any vaccine, they can only be treated as non vaccinated, otherwise the very purpose of vaccine passports doesn't work. My point was that half acceptance doesnt work. Nothing more.

 

[Hari Sud]

Now that the lab made Covid - 19 theory in Wuhan Lab is gaining strength, China should be punished thoroughly.

Explained: How A Persistent Young Indian Brought COVID-19 Lab Leak Theory To The Fore Battling Mainstream Media Bias

This group of anonymous people has established two things: one, the Wuhan Instititute of Virology was actively working with viruses similar to SARS-CoV-2 long before the outbreak in 2019; and two, once the outbreak happened the Institute tried to conceal such activities. Both of these make the...

swarajyamag.com

Soon the Biden ordered inquiry will be completed. The left leaning Biden will find very hard to resist strict action against China and trade activities.

I will recommend China should be kicked out from all world forums. All trade relations even if it means US Wall Street suffers a lot are curtailed. The worst impacted countries like Brazil, India, Britain and US should seek compensation for death and destruction of people’s lives. Also fire Dr. Fauci for supporting China.

China will declare war under these circumstances and the world should get ready to kick their backside very thoroughly. Chinese are unlikely to use nuclear weapons, but if they nuclear bomb Japan, Taiwan, Guam, Hawaii, India then the retaliation should be so great China ceases to exist as we know it now.

No more sweet talk and ever smiling Chinese diplomats reaching you to explain.

 

[IndianYonko]

Now that the lab made Covid - 19 theory in Wuhan Lab is gaining strength, China should be punished thoroughly.

Explained: How A Persistent Young Indian Brought COVID-19 Lab Leak Theory To The Fore Battling Mainstream Media Bias

This group of anonymous people has established two things: one, the Wuhan Instititute of Virology was actively working with viruses similar to SARS-CoV-2 long before the outbreak in 2019; and two, once the outbreak happened the Institute tried to conceal such activities. Both of these make the...

swarajyamag.com

Soon the Biden ordered inquiry will be completed. The left leaning Biden will find very hard to resist strict action against China and trade activities.

I will recommend China should be kicked out from all world forums. All trade relations even if it means US Wall Street suffers a lot are curtailed. The worst impacted countries like Brazil, India, Britain and US should seek compensation for death and destruction of people’s lives. Also fire Dr. Fauci for supporting China.

China will declare war under these circumstances and the world should get ready to kick their backside very thoroughly. Chinese are unlikely to use nuclear weapons, but if they nuclear bomb Japan, Taiwan, Guam, Hawaii, India then the retaliation should be so great China ceases to exist as we know it now.

No more sweet talk and ever smiling Chinese diplomats reaching you to explain.

Sapne suhane ladakpan k; kick out China?

 

[ladder]

There are risks with everything but the very concept of vaccine passports is acceptance of vaccination guarantee. If there are doubts about any vaccine, they can only be treated as non vaccinated, otherwise the very purpose of vaccine passports doesn't work. My point was that half acceptance doesnt work. Nothing more.

Let's wait and see how this things pan out.
Covaxin takers will not have problem as most probably it will get WHO certification before this vaccine passport comes into being.

 

[TakAman]

Now that the lab made Covid - 19 theory in Wuhan Lab is gaining strength, China should be punished thoroughly.

Explained: How A Persistent Young Indian Brought COVID-19 Lab Leak Theory To The Fore Battling Mainstream Media Bias

This group of anonymous people has established two things: one, the Wuhan Instititute of Virology was actively working with viruses similar to SARS-CoV-2 long before the outbreak in 2019; and two, once the outbreak happened the Institute tried to conceal such activities. Both of these make the...

swarajyamag.com

Soon the Biden ordered inquiry will be completed. The left leaning Biden will find very hard to resist strict action against China and trade activities.

I will recommend China should be kicked out from all world forums. All trade relations even if it means US Wall Street suffers a lot are curtailed. The worst impacted countries like Brazil, India, Britain and US should seek compensation for death and destruction of people’s lives. Also fire Dr. Fauci for supporting China.

China will declare war under these circumstances and the world should get ready to kick their backside very thoroughly. Chinese are unlikely to use nuclear weapons, but if they nuclear bomb Japan, Taiwan, Guam, Hawaii, India then the retaliation should be so great China ceases to exist as we know it now.

No more sweet talk and ever smiling Chinese diplomats reaching you to explain.

China "will" declare war and will not use nuclear weapons ?

They are already threatening US with nuclear war.

China threatens nuclear war, expanding arsenal in case of ‘intense showdown’ with US

The media mouthpiece for the Chinese Communist government, the Global Times touted China’s goal to expand its arsenal of nuclear missiles in anticipation of an “intense showdown”…

nypost.com

World is just waiting for evidence against China for COVID. Once it is presented, even Pakistan may not support China.

 

[shade]

China "will" declare war and will not use nuclear weapons ?

They are already threatening US with nuclear war.

China threatens nuclear war, expanding arsenal in case of ‘intense showdown’ with US

The media mouthpiece for the Chinese Communist government, the Global Times touted China’s goal to expand its arsenal of nuclear missiles in anticipation of an “intense showdown”…

nypost.com

World is just waiting for evidence against China for COVID. Once it is presented, even Pakistan may not support China.

Even with evidence kuch nahi hoga, Factory of the world and Largest Consumer Market will stop any hard actions from taking place.
Trump was, and will always be the only one exception, he did all that he could to apply the stick on this chinks, rest both Republicunts and Demoncrats are the same.

 

[TakAman]

Even with evidence kuch nahi hoga, Factory of the world and Largest Consumer Market will stop any hard actions from taking place.
Trump was, and will always be the only one exception, he did all that he could to apply the stick on this chinks, rest both Republicunts and Demoncrats are the same.

There are alternatives to anything and everything China makes (phones, toys, steel, etc).

Ask this question from someone who lost a family member due to COVID. Do you think people will forget China just because it is a big nation.

They would any day prefer moving to another alternative phone, expensive solar panel, etc. The sentiment among the people is too strong to be avoided.

Plus there is nothing China can do to stop the rest of the world. Remember the Chinese are 1.4 billion people. Rest of the world is 6.4.

Power held by 6.4 billion people >>>>> 1.4 billion Chinese.

 

[shade]

There are alternatives to anything and everything China makes (phones, toys, steel, etc).

Ask this question from someone who lost a family member due to COVID. Do you think people will forget China just because it is a big nation.

They would any day prefer moving to another alternative phone, expensive solar panel, etc. The sentiment among the people is too strong to be avoided.

Plus there is nothing China can do to stop the rest of the world. Remember the Chinese are 1.4 billion people. Rest of the world is 6.4.

Power held by 6.4 billion people >>>>> 1.4 billion Chinese.

People will be jewed by the media and with time will forget
notice during this years Corona season nobody heaping blame on chinks, everyone blaming Modi.

People also continue to shamelessly buy Chink brand phones.

World works on profits and strenght, not on morals and righteousness sadly.

Don't worry, the chinks will pay in the future though, the dominance of the Whites didn't last forever, neither will this Pax Sinica or whatever.

 

[Nicky G]

Dog is slowly turning on it, s masters... Wait...

Politics is funny...... TBH, the narrative trump set in his last 6 months is too strong even for

Nah.. the investigation into Wuhan lab is a cover up.

There might some tug of war internally in the global leftist cabal but on big things, they will always be aligned.

 

[Jimih]

Hot Air or Substance?

This is coming from that Government who delivered the famous dialogue, "Koi nahi ghusa hai"

 

[omaebakabaka]

There are risks with everything but the very concept of vaccine passports is acceptance of vaccination guarantee. If there are doubts about any vaccine, they can only be treated as non vaccinated, otherwise the very purpose of vaccine passports doesn't work. My point was that half acceptance doesnt work. Nothing more.

Japan is forcing anyone from US states that had cases of Delta variant to quarantine at a designated place for 3 days followed by negative test report and then 14 days at home and test again....did not mention anything about vaccination. I think its too early to say if these work against all strains and for how long...

 

[Kumata]

Nah.. the investigation into Wuhan lab is a cover up.

There might some tug of war internally in the global leftist cabal but on big things, they will always be aligned.

This is what I mean..


This time bound investigation does raise eye brows but he won, t be able to give clean up entirely. He will need a bargaining chip to keep tabs on his masters... If he gives a clean chit than ccp will be more assertative and brash in their actions...

Ultimately, Biden need to look at domestic audience also where majority thinks Wuhan virus was a lab leak..

Point is who becomes the scapegoat in all this.... Some body needs to be there.....