Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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Kumata

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Nope, only very racist anti-Chinese people would attack Wuhan. The virus was associated with China only because it was first detected in Wuhan.

If it were a bio-weapon and the attack started in Mumbai or Paris then virus would have been associated with India or France.
My bitch,

You are back to your usual cries of "RACISM". So predictable. It started in Wuhan, b, cause thats where u engineered it. There r news of ur doctors in Wuhan institute of virology falling ill due to unexplained disease as back as Oct 2019.

I am sorry but you are good no where... Neither on forums nor In propoganda.. Rst u know where u r pathetic... 👹👻👻

Have explained the classic commie tactics earlier as well.... So be my guest in room no 420 in thst sanya Hotel... Have bought some good champagne to host you... Pls don't disappoint me..
 

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So today was another shiity day.... While a friend lost his mom to pancreatic infection.. Aggravated most probably due to steroids as part of her covid therapy.... A colleague lost battle on ventilator in Chennai...he is survived by a 5 yr son...

On shanti... Chinese... Asshole shud be happy hearing theae deaths....
Two of my previous project's team mate came online after a month and contacted me. Both lost their father in last month due to covid.
 

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Nope, only very racist anti-Chinese people would attack Wuhan. The virus was associated with China only because it was first detected in Wuhan.

If it were a bio-weapon and the attack started in Mumbai or Paris then virus would have been associated with India or France.
This is the Truth:
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This chorus will increase only as more sinister CCP plan unfolds...


Fake news.

From that article:


In June 2020, after Dalgleish and Sørensen's theory was championed by a former MI6 chief, the Times of London quoted MI5 sources dismissing the theory as 'fake news.'

Gunnveig Grødeland, a vaccine researcher at the University of Oslo, told Forbes in June last year that the parts of the virus that Dalgleish and Sorensen believe must be man-made, in fact appear in nature.

'Examples can be found in other viruses including subtypes of influenza (including 'bird flu'), HIV, and several human coronaviruses (MERS, OC43, HKU1),' she said.


Dr Rachael Tarlinton, an associate professor of veterinary virology at the UK University of Nottingham, told Sky News that Dalgleish and Sorensen's theory was 'magical thinking' in a July 2020 interview.

'The artificial release theories seem to be a form of 'magical thinking' - a simplistic solution to a complex problem where if someone can be blamed then that someone can be removed and the problem go away,' she said.
 

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Fake news.

From that article:


In June 2020, after Dalgleish and Sørensen's theory was championed by a former MI6 chief, the Times of London quoted MI5 sources dismissing the theory as 'fake news.'

Gunnveig Grødeland, a vaccine researcher at the University of Oslo, told Forbes in June last year that the parts of the virus that Dalgleish and Sorensen believe must be man-made, in fact appear in nature.

'Examples can be found in other viruses including subtypes of influenza (including 'bird flu'), HIV, and several human coronaviruses (MERS, OC43, HKU1),' she said.


Dr Rachael Tarlinton, an associate professor of veterinary virology at the UK University of Nottingham, told Sky News that Dalgleish and Sorensen's theory was 'magical thinking' in a July 2020 interview.

'The artificial release theories seem to be a form of 'magical thinking' - a simplistic solution to a complex problem where if someone can be blamed then that someone can be removed and the problem go away,' she said.
You don't understand the diff between July 2020 and May 2021..
 
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In a secret speech given to high-level Communist Party cadres nearly two decades ago, Chinese General and member of CMC Gen. Chi Haotian explained a long range plan for ensuring a Chinese national renaissance.

He said there were three vital issues that must be answered:

1) The first issue is the issue of living space, because China is severely overpopulated and China’s environment is deteriorating.

2) The second issue is that the Communist Party must teach the Chinese people to “go out.” By this Gen. Chi meant the conquest of new lands in which a “second China” could be built by “colonization.”

3) The third vital issue is the “Issue of United States of America.”

Gen. Chi warned his party members, “This appears to be shocking, but the logic is actually very simple. China is in fundamental conflict with the Western strategic interest. Therefore, the United States will never allow China to seize other countries to build a second China. The United States stands in China’s way."

Gen. Chi explained the problem as follows: “Would the United States allow us to go out to gain new living space? United States is firm in blocking us, it is hard for us to do anything significant to Taiwan, Vietnam, India, or even Japan. Only countries like the United States, Canada, and Australia have the vast land to serve our need for mass colonization.”

Gen. Chi also commented, "We are not as foolish as to want to perish together with America by using nuclear weapons, Only by using non-destructive weapons that can kill many people will we be able to reserve America for ourselves. The answer is found in biological weapons."

He also added, “we have not been idle, in the past years we have seized the opportunity to master weapons of this kind.”

He finally added, "The ruling Chinese Communist Party must consider biological weapons to be the most important weapons for accomplishing its goal of cleaning up USA."
 
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So Sputnik V is now available as option in Cowin portal. Heard that Apollo hospitals have tied up with DRL and giving Sputnik V shots.
If any person is looking for vaccine can search for Apollo hospital of their area and select Sputnik V also.
 

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This is exactly why many posters here (including me) were unhappy with G.o.I for not making funds ( 3500 crore INR) available for BB and SII earlier than announced.
There is nothing to prove that the vaccine production could have been expedited or we could be in a better position than where we already are by releasing funds earlier.
 

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There is nothing to prove that the vaccine production could have been expedited or we could be in a better position than where we already are by releasing funds earlier.
Yes, definitely nothing 😊 happy?
 

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There is nothing to prove that the vaccine production could have been expedited or we could be in a better position than where we already are by releasing funds earlier.
did poonawala or BB fellows say that delay is because of the funds?

Is there a delay in the first place?

from January they have been saying, it will July august for them to increase production.

low production can be directly correlated to imports of “plastic filters” that poonawala had asked from US. he asked for them in apr 6th, and delivery of vaccines seems to be happening now . apparently it take 35 days to produce one batch of vaccines. Timeline matches.


and don’t forget the moment poonawala got 3500 crores from govt, within two days he invested 3000 crores in his Britain plant.
 

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Challenge is to Vaccinate India as quickly as possible i.e. before DEC-2021.

There are roughly 7.9 Billion people on Earth. After Vaccinating India; go FULL FORCE and Export Vaccines to All the Countries around the Globe.

India is building Huge Vaccine Capacity with MONTHLY Production of following Vaccines by Dec-21:

PER MONTH VACCINE PRODUCTION FIGURES IN CRORES by Dec-2021.


BB- Covaxin - 15.50 Crore
SII - Covidshield - 11.50 Crore
Bio-E - Carbevax - 7.50 Crore
Dr.Raddy - Sputnik - 7.02 Crore
BB- CovaxinNasal - 5.00 Crore
SII - Novavax - 5.00 Crore
J&J- Jansen - 5.00 Crore
Ginnova- HGC09 - 1.50 Crore
Zydus - ZyCov-D - 1.30 Crore
Total - 59.32 Crore Vaccines PER MONTH

We will have HUGE Vaccine Production Capacities of 59.32 Crores per month by this year end.

Go on OVER DRIVE and export Vaccines under VACCINE DIPLOMACY around the world.

Be the Country which had seen WORST PANDEMIC AND RECOVERED QUICKLY AND NOW SAVING THE WHOLE WORLD.

India Alone with this CAPACITY can vaccinate WHOLE WORLD before end of CALENDAR YEAR 2023.
This will be a god gift for us, i would say now create a process in how vaccinate whole india in limited time frame for any new virus came up. I think corona give India a chance to prepare for bio hazard in future also.
 

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did poonawala or BB fellows say that delay is because of the funds?

Is there a delay in the first place?

from January they have been saying, it will July august for them to increase production.

low production can be directly correlated to imports of “plastic filters” that poonawala had asked from US. he asked for them in apr 6th, and delivery of vaccines seems to be happening now . apparently it take 35 days to produce one batch of vaccines. Timeline matches.


and don’t forget the moment poonawala got 3500 crores from govt, within two days he invested 3000 crores in his Britain plant.
Nobody is interested in going beyond the headlines and make efforts to understand the timeline and analyze data independently.

Modi did not release funds that's why production did not start, that's why many people died, Modi killer, Modi resigne. We have such a bumkin here in this thread.

Read this excellent thread on How Modi Govt handheld the entire vaccine efforts from March 2020 and where we are now. Please show me one acknowledgment my Adar Ponawalla critical of Modi Govt?

 
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@ezsasa evil Poonawala invested in UK a day after it got advance payment from G.o.I, isn't what you wanted to say?
Yup, both news came in quick succession.

excuse brevity, cursor keeps jumping when i use phone to type.
 

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Yup, both news came in quick succession.

excuse brevity, cursor keeps jumping when i use phone to type.

Then please read the above news item along with my previous post.

Also, did UK trade secretary visit India. When and with whom all did she meet?

Also, why haven't any country with BS iii or iv labs and having capabilities to produce vaccine have taken the compulsory license route?

Also, to setup a temporary/ makeshift BS iii lab atleast 6 months to one year is required.

Hope you now will get a picture of the situation and why I commented that G.o.I was late in releasing the funds.
 

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Then please read the above news item along with my previous post.

Also, did UK trade secretary visit India. When and with whom all did she meet?

Also, why haven't any country with BS iii or iv labs and having capabilities to produce vaccine have taken the compulsory license route?

Also, to setup a temporary/ makeshift BS iii lab atleast 6 months to one year is required.

Hope you now will get a picture of the situation and why I commented that G.o.I was late in releasing the funds.
and I am arguing that cash was not the constraint for low shipment in may, global supply chain is.

poonawala was already building a new plant since last year. you can check India today rahul Kanwal interview with poonawala in his factory last year.

this “lack of funding by GoI created the supply chain bottleneck” narratives being created by folks who are comparing our system with US & UK where they placed blind bets on multiple vaccines, of which Pfizer and moderna panned out. others did not succeed. It’s called operation warpspeed in US. US UK & EU all of them invested in this project last year.

India took a different approach since our priorities were different last year, India also had to invest from scratch on other things as well. starting from PPE manufacturing and test kits manufacturing. once the vaccines started clearing trials, funds started getting released to vaccine companies in jan feb & April.

money is a limited resource for India, have to place bets carefully, that too at a time when there was a possibility of having to prepare for war and pandemic last year at the same time.
 

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