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Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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looks like chinese quality at work.

Seychelles has a population of 100,000 , 60% has been vaccinated , 57% given Sinopharm, rest 43% covishield

Seychelles is now under lockdown after covid surge.
 

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looks like chinese quality at work.

Seychelles has a population of 100,000 , 60% has been vaccinated , 57% given Sinopharm, rest 43% covishield

Seychelles is now under lockdown after covid surge.
For context:
The ministry noted that, of the patients requiring hospital treatment, 80% had not been vaccinated and tended to be people with co-morbidities. It added that "almost all" of the critical and severe cases requiring intensive care treatment had not been vaccinated either. To date, none of the patients who have died with Covid-19 have been fully vaccinated, it said.


So, both Covishield and Sinopharm are effective in reducing severe covid
 

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looks like chinese quality at work.

Seychelles has a population of 100,000 , 60% has been vaccinated , 57% given Sinopharm, rest 43% covishield

Seychelles is now under lockdown after covid surge.
I think there is a similar situation in Chile and Paraguay or Peru. They used the Sinopharm vaccine and now are see a resurgence of new infections.
 

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Swarajya doing mental gymnastics

% fully vaccinated

US 36.2 %
UK 29 %
India 2 %


Should have given that 4300 crore credit to SII and BB back in january itself or in 2020,

Not wait until April , last month.
I always wonder about selective use of statistics. When we are talking about infections, numbers get used, not percentage and I think that’s important to use actual numbers anyways. When we talk about vaccinations, percentages are thrown in instead of numbers. Our population is huge, there is no way we are going to match other countries in percentage. Actual numbers are decent. Could they be better? Sure, everything could generally be better. Do I think the government got complacent? Yes and they don’t get to make excuses regardless of any reasons put forward. The problem we have had was the inexplicable decrease of the first wave. No scientist, no expert knew why. Which made their warnings of a 2nd wave to be taken less seriously, by the political leadership and by people at large. The government gets its share of blame and this has been a massive disaster and a failure but let’s not go around playing with facts and figures to only make those arguments we prefer.
 

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Telangana student spends 11 days on a tree — he had nowhere else to isolate during Covid


Shiva, an 18-year-old graduate student, built himself a bed on a tree to avoid spreading Covid to his family who all share a one-room house.

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Shiva sits in his makeshift 'Covid isolation ward' — a mattress on a tree, in Nalagonda district, Telangana, in May 2021

Hyderabad: In Telangana’s Nalagonda district, the challenges of Covid-19 come with not just the issues of access to healthcare centres, medication and vaccines, but a more basic problem — a lack of space to home isolate.

With many families sharing a single room that includes the kitchen and sometimes even the toilet, Covid positive patients often find they have nowhere to go to isolate.

This is why 18-year-old Shiva decided to build himself a Covid ‘ward’ — a bed made of bamboo sticks fastened to the branches of a tree in the compound of his home.

Living in Kothanandikonda, a tribal hamlet tucked away in the interiors of Nalagonda district, Shiva had tested positive on 4 May. Village volunteers told him to stay at home and isolate from his family, Shiva told ThePrint. But given his living conditions and the lack of an isolation centre in his village, Shiva came up with the idea of isolating on the tree. He has so far spent 11 days on the tree.

Kothanandikonda is home to about 350 families and is one of the many tribal hamlets under the Adavidevulapally mandal in the district. The nearest primary health centre (PHC) is 5 km away and people of these hamlets have to travel 30 km for a hospital in case of a critical medical emergency, residents said.

Given the rise in Covid cases in the rural parts of the state, a Scheduled Tribes Hostel in the mandal was converted into an isolation centre by the district administration on 13 May. However, many residents in these areas are still unaware of this.

“There was no isolation centre here. Two days ago, they converted the ST hostel into a centre … up until then we had nothing and I don’t know if there are any such centres in other villages … I don’t think so. What else can I do?,” Shiva told ThePrint.

Noting that he has a family of four and “cannot let anyone get affected because of me”, Shiva said he decided to isolate on the tree.

“I don’t know if the village volunteers told the sarpanch about me testing positive. No one in my village came forward to help me. They’re all scared of the virus … they’re not stepping out of their homes,” he added.

ThePrint reached village sarpanch Balu Naik via phone call but didn’t receive a response till the time of publishing this report. ThePrint also reached District Collector Prashanth Jeevan Patil via phone calls and a text message, but is yet to receive a response.

Disconnected but on Google Maps

When ThePrint called Shiva on his mobile phone for directions to reach the village, his instant response was that his hamlet can be located on Google Maps.

On reaching his location on 15 May, ThePrint was greeted with a view of Shiva perched on his mattress in his makeshift Covid ‘isolation ward’ on the tree. The tree is within the compound of his home. Shiva had fashioned a pulley system using rope and a bucket. His daily meals and other requirements are sent to him using this pulley system.

Shiva has been isolating on the tree for the past 11 days since his home is a single-room unit that houses four others, in Nalagonda district, Telangana | Manisha Mondal | ThePrint
Shiva has been isolating on the tree for the past 11 days since his home is a single-room unit that houses four others, in Nalagonda district, Telangana

On the tree, Shiva spends much of this time on his phone, which he keeps in a tiny basket tied to the tree. He is a student pursuing a graduate course in Hyderabad. He had returned to his village about a month ago when cases in the city were rising.

“My husband and I are daily wage workers and he (Shiva) has two siblings. My son understood that if we get infected, then it would be difficult for the family to survive with no earnings. The ASHA workers told us to isolate him, but did not ask us if we had a provision to isolate him at home. We travelled 5 kms to reach the nearest PHC, but there were no beds there. Where would we keep him?” Anasuya, Shiva’s 38-year-old mother told ThePrint in Telugu.

The house has only one washroom, built inside the home, so Shiva goes out to the fields after sunset.

Shiva's mother works in one corner of their home that functions as the kitchen | Manisha Mondal | ThePrint
Shiva’s mother works in one corner of their home that functions as the kitchen

After ThePrint reached his house, other residents began gathering to find out what was happening. “Is he Covid positive?”, “Did he speak anything against the sarpanch (village head)?” were among the questions that floated around.

As word spread and more residents gathered, the police reached Shiva’s house. This was the first they were seeing or hearing about Shiva and his ‘isolation ward’. They later moved the young man to the ST hostel that had been converted to an isolation centre, located 5 kms away from the hamlet.

After he was moved, Shiva speaking to ThePrint over the phone, said he would be sent back home after the isolation period was completed.

“We did not know he was living like this. There are 13 hamlets under this mandal and having an isolation centre in every village would be a task … the health officials will have to visit every one of them,” Veera Shekar, the Station House Office at Adavidevulapally mandal Police Station said.

“Since cases are also rising in these villages, a task force was set up recently and all village heads decided that they would have one isolation centre for the villages. So, a ST hostel was converted into (an isolation centre) one-two days ago.”

Others isolate in bathrooms, fields

As it turns out, Shiva isn’t the only to have found a fix to his predicament. Others in the village have been using bathrooms, staying in the fields and building makeshift huts, according to village resident Mahesh Goud.

Goud refused to point out which houses had done this, saying it could cause problems since many in the village weren’t aware of who all had tested positive.

“This (Shiva) is not the only incident — they’re staying in fields, bathrooms, making some temporary arrangements using gunny sacks and all. No one wants to tell anyone that they’re infected because other families will outcast them and they’re not welcome anywhere even after they recover,” he said, adding, “The PHC has no testing kits. If 100 people go for a test, they conduct tests on only 20 people. They tell us there are no kits. There is no social distancing,” Goud further said.

The Nalgonda district is among the worst-affected in the state, recording 199 new cases on 15 May, going up from 116 daily cases a month ago. Telangana has so far reported 5,25,007 cases, of which 53,072 are currently under treatment or isolation, according to the state bulletin.

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I always wonder about selective use of statistics. When we are talking about infections, numbers get used, not percentage and I think that’s important to use actual numbers anyways. When we talk about vaccinations, percentages are thrown in instead of numbers. Our population is huge, there is no way we are going to match other countries in percentage. Actual numbers are decent. Could they be better? Sure, everything could generally be better. Do I think the government got complacent? Yes and they don’t get to make excuses regardless of any reasons put forward. The problem we have had was the inexplicable decrease of the first wave. No scientist, no expert knew why. Which made their warnings of a 2nd wave to be taken less seriously, by the political leadership and by people at large. The government gets its share of blame and this has been a massive disaster and a failure but let’s not go around playing with facts and figures to only make those arguments we prefer.
As far as I remember, scientists in their own models did not foresee a second wave (in a report as late as 28 February). So its not as simple as "politicians didn't listen".
 

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Why the thread isnt renamed yet with tag Chinese Corona Virus.

Hell we have been listening abt this country variant and blah blah but the main culprit aren't even named openly.
 

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As far as I remember, scientists in their own models did not foresee a second wave (in a report as late as 28 February). So its not as simple as "politicians didn't listen".
There are always scientists and experts who have different opinions. There were some warnings issued, including in early March. These, by the government’s handpicked experts. Warnings are easy to issue, one must check how many times warnings were issued earlier. It must be said that most didn’t expect the severity of this wave, especially after the first had just petered out inexplicably.
 

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There are always scientists and experts who have different opinions. There were some warnings issued, including in early March. These, by the government’s handpicked experts. Warnings are easy to issue, one must check how many times warnings were issued earlier. It must be said that most didn’t expect the severity of this wave, especially after the first had just petered out inexplicably.
Problem is the politicization of science (look at Lancet). As an administrator, it is difficult to be sure which group of scientists are right in their predictions. The thing such an administrator can do is to listen to both groups and then prepare for the worst case scenario as a measure of abundant caution. Seems like this is what the GoI was doing. But it was the size of the wave that was not factored in, as stated by the Chief Scientific Adviser himself. Something must have gone seriously wrong because the GoI's worst case scenario predictions were not merely exceeded, but exceeded by a large factor. This does give us the illusion that the GoI threw caution to the winds and did not even factor in a worst case scenario. So do you believe that all administrators at the top were so incompetent that they would not factor in a worst case scenario at all? I think that is an over-simplistic assessment.
 

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Found this account from Vietnam on how thw B.1.617 broke through the defences of Vietnam and has already started spreading like a wild fire. The B.1.617 is damm infectious and hits the young very hard. This Vietnam example and other Singapore clusters like Changi and Hospitals shows that once this Variant is inside your border no amount of contact, tracing and testing method will work to contain it. That is why now I believe though the cases are going down in India for a long time there will be a flat line of 1 lakh cases before it tapers down.

The below real world analysis of spread in Vietnam highlights how this virus spreads.




Let's observe the horror of B.1.617.2 up close
2021-05-17 Monday Snapshot support provided by Lvv2.com Join tg group
————The second update on May 12, 2021————

Seven B.1.617.2 sequencing results were freshly released yesterday afternoon.

Among them, there are two cases in Bac Ninh and Lang Son:


In other words, the more than 120 local cases in Bac Ninh Province, as well as the large number of hospital feelings at the East British Central Tropical Disease Hospital, may be the source of the Indian experts who entered the country on April 17 with the virus...

Maye, this thing is so JB fierce!



———— First update on May 11, 2021————

Looking at the announcement from the Ministry of Health of Vietnam today, I feel that the poison king ran to Vietnam, which is considered to be a self-investment...

71 new local cases were added, all of which were pre-quarantined as close contacts.

Two of them have been quarantined from May 4 to the present. Nucleic acid tests were negative for three consecutive times, and they were finally positive for the fourth time.



India UK: Meow meow? Is there such an operation?



————The following is the original text————

One,

B.1.617 (commonly known as the "double mutation") is a new generation of poison king, raging in India, this is not news:


But as we all know, you can’t believe a punctuation mark in Indian data...

So we don't know how fierce it is.



two,

Recently, B.1.617 broke up.

The three separated brothers are the second most inconspicuous, and even the ancestral E484Q has been lost, and they are simply ashamed of the name of the "double mutation".

But I never thought that it was this second child B.1.617.2 who played superbly in the United Kingdom (and the world) and quickly obtained the VOC certification of the Public Health Agency of England[1]. He changed and became a follower of B.1.1.7, B.1.1.7, and B.1.1.7. B.1.351 and P.1 are on the same level as the official endorsement of the poisonous king:



However, it is well known that the British are active in sequencing, but they are so bad that they are not fundamentally different from India...

Therefore, we can only experience the mighty power of the new poison king in macro figures, without seeing intuitive cases.



three,

However, now, even intuitive cases have finally emerged.

In Vietnam.

In other words, Vietnam has served as a top student for epidemic prevention for more than a year.

But I often walk by the river, how can I not wet my shoes?

They pulled their hips last month...

First of all, please taste this hotel carefully:





What do you think?

You just can’t believe it. The epidemic prevention department of Yingbai Province, Vietnam, how hard are they doing?

They actually used the hotel above to quarantine the Indians...

I don’t know how to write dead words...



four,

Therefore, thanks to the Ying Pei Provincial Prevention and Control Working Group that has been removed,

It is precisely because of their muffled voices that we have such a rare opportunity to observe the B.1.617.2 massacre at close range (may need to click on the big picture):




lengends:

Blue box-imported cases (departure from India, transit in Dubai)
Red square-Chinese people who have been recruited for no reason and participated in the spread (it should be counted as a local case)
Flesh yellow cubes-local cases
Solid line-identified infection chain
Dotted line-undetermined but possible infection chain
F1-the first generation of close connection
F2——Second-generation close connection


Fives,

Give it a brief dictation.

April 9-23: Five Chinese experts entered Vietnam for business trips through the Friendship Pass, and were transported to the wonderful hotel above in a closed loop for centralized isolation;

April 18: Flight EK394 departing from Dubai arrived at Noi Bai Airport in Vietnam, and some of the Indian passengers were transferred to the same wonderful hotel in a closed loop for centralized isolation;

April 19-27: 4 Indian passengers and 1 hotel staff were tested positive, but the local epidemic prevention department did not consider the possibility of missing the quarantined hotel, and did not promptly trace other people who were quarantined here during the same period. Personnel, such as the protagonist of this story-a group of 5 Chinese experts;

April 23-29: The five-member group of Chinese experts who have been recruited unknowingly travels everywhere in Vietnam...

April 30th-May 4th: The five-member group of Chinese experts finally finished their business trip and returned to China through the Friendship Pass on April 30. They were successively tested positive in Pingxiang (the first time Pingxiang was at a loss Viet Nam was notified...otherwise, both sides will be severely affected this time)

May 2-May 7: Vietnam received a notification and quickly turned around to find out the itinerary of the five-member group of Chinese experts. The first thing that broke out was a karaoke hall in Yongfu Province (the experts came to wash the dust just after the centralized isolation was lifted on April 23, and they really knew how to play...). From May 2 onwards, 7 women who missed the first-generation close-up and 7 second-generation close-up women have been tested positive one after another;

May 3-May 8: The next recruit was a massage room also located in Vinh Phuc province (the experts came to take care of the business on the evening of April 26). Since May 3, 5 women who have missed the first-generation close, 9 second-generation and 4 third-generation women have been tested positive;

May 4-May 7: The VN168 flight from Da Nang to Hanoi on April 29 continues to be identified. From May 4, 4 passengers in the seats next to the experts in the front and rear rows have been tested positive;

May 7th-May 9th: It's not over yet, there are hotels. From April 27th to 29th, the two unlucky guys who stayed with the experts in a hotel in Da Nang were tested positive on May 7th. As of the 9th, there are 8 second-generation close-connected and 1 third-generation close-connected have been tested positive;

May 8th-May 9th: Finally, the local colleagues who are responsible for receiving the experts... From May 8th, 3 first-generation close-ups and 19 second-generation close-ups have been tested positive.



six,

The above is just a real infection path.

In Da Nang, there is a long list of temporarily unsuccessful ones (see the right part of the picture).

Although there is no real hammer, the suspicion is not small.

Because the check-out time coincided with the schedule of the experts' business trip in Da Nang, the place of the accident happened to be a well-known local entertainment venue near the hotel where the experts were staying.

As for the lack of real hammers, it may be because it is not easy for the experts to make real hammers in some entertainment activities outside of work...



Seven,

Everyone must have already tasted the horror of the new Poison King.

The first is the short generation gap.

For example, at the beginning, in the isolation hotel, the poisoned Indian brother only checked in on the 18th. By the evening of the 23rd, the experts were already able to infect women who stumbled in karaoke halls... 10 days later, on May 4, the fourth generation of positives also appeared...

For another example, the experts visited a massage shop in Yongfu Province on the evening of April 26, and the fourth generation emerged after 10 days...



Then it is highly infectious.

Infect three rows before and after flying on a plane, sing a song to infect 7 accompany singing princesses, and press a motorcycle to infect 12 spa girls...

The most frightening thing is the Da Nang infection chain that has not yet been fully hammered... The BN3131 case recruited at the New Oriental Bar in Da Nang had a meeting with 22 beauty salon colleagues in an asymptomatic state. A few days later, 18 of them were recruited. ...



Sure enough, the close observation experience is more terrifying than the dry figures and graphs in Britain or India.



Eight,

Equally scary is Vietnam.

With such a short intergenerational interval and such an erratic chain of infection, they were basically not lost (otherwise this picture would not be drawn...)

Even most of the time, it can be isolated in advance.

Although the situation was thrilling, it barely survived the collapse.

At the time, it was known as a small expert in the anti-epidemic in Southeast Asia. As a result, the real test will come. Cambodia, Myanmar, Thailand, Malaysia and Laos have all crossed, Singapore also has a crisis-ridden appearance... I hope the only remaining seedlings in the Indochina Peninsula can be stabilized~



nine,

MVP is Pingxiang.

Ma yeah, it's a shame...

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^https://assets.publishing.service.g...Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_10_England.pdf
Original address: Click here to view the original
 

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Found this account from Vietnam on how thw B.1.617 broke through the defences of Vietnam and has already started spreading like a wild fire. The B.1.617 is damm infectious and hits the young very hard. This Vietnam example and other Singapore clusters like Changi and Hospitals shows that once this Variant is inside your border no amount of contact, tracing and testing method will work to contain it. That is why now I believe though the cases are going down in India for a long time there will be a flat line of 1 lakh cases before it tapers down.

The below real world analysis of spread in Vietnam highlights how this virus spreads.




Let's observe the horror of B.1.617.2 up close
2021-05-17 Monday Snapshot support provided by Lvv2.com Join tg group
————The second update on May 12, 2021————

Seven B.1.617.2 sequencing results were freshly released yesterday afternoon.

Among them, there are two cases in Bac Ninh and Lang Son:


In other words, the more than 120 local cases in Bac Ninh Province, as well as the large number of hospital feelings at the East British Central Tropical Disease Hospital, may be the source of the Indian experts who entered the country on April 17 with the virus...

Maye, this thing is so JB fierce!



———— First update on May 11, 2021————

Looking at the announcement from the Ministry of Health of Vietnam today, I feel that the poison king ran to Vietnam, which is considered to be a self-investment...

71 new local cases were added, all of which were pre-quarantined as close contacts.

Two of them have been quarantined from May 4 to the present. Nucleic acid tests were negative for three consecutive times, and they were finally positive for the fourth time.



India UK: Meow meow? Is there such an operation?



————The following is the original text————

One,

B.1.617 (commonly known as the "double mutation") is a new generation of poison king, raging in India, this is not news:


But as we all know, you can’t believe a punctuation mark in Indian data...

So we don't know how fierce it is.



two,

Recently, B.1.617 broke up.

The three separated brothers are the second most inconspicuous, and even the ancestral E484Q has been lost, and they are simply ashamed of the name of the "double mutation".

But I never thought that it was this second child B.1.617.2 who played superbly in the United Kingdom (and the world) and quickly obtained the VOC certification of the Public Health Agency of England[1]. He changed and became a follower of B.1.1.7, B.1.1.7, and B.1.1.7. B.1.351 and P.1 are on the same level as the official endorsement of the poisonous king:



However, it is well known that the British are active in sequencing, but they are so bad that they are not fundamentally different from India...

Therefore, we can only experience the mighty power of the new poison king in macro figures, without seeing intuitive cases.



three,

However, now, even intuitive cases have finally emerged.

In Vietnam.

In other words, Vietnam has served as a top student for epidemic prevention for more than a year.

But I often walk by the river, how can I not wet my shoes?

They pulled their hips last month...

First of all, please taste this hotel carefully:





What do you think?

You just can’t believe it. The epidemic prevention department of Yingbai Province, Vietnam, how hard are they doing?

They actually used the hotel above to quarantine the Indians...

I don’t know how to write dead words...



four,

Therefore, thanks to the Ying Pei Provincial Prevention and Control Working Group that has been removed,

It is precisely because of their muffled voices that we have such a rare opportunity to observe the B.1.617.2 massacre at close range (may need to click on the big picture):




lengends:

Blue box-imported cases (departure from India, transit in Dubai)
Red square-Chinese people who have been recruited for no reason and participated in the spread (it should be counted as a local case)
Flesh yellow cubes-local cases
Solid line-identified infection chain
Dotted line-undetermined but possible infection chain
F1-the first generation of close connection
F2——Second-generation close connection


Fives,

Give it a brief dictation.

April 9-23: Five Chinese experts entered Vietnam for business trips through the Friendship Pass, and were transported to the wonderful hotel above in a closed loop for centralized isolation;

April 18: Flight EK394 departing from Dubai arrived at Noi Bai Airport in Vietnam, and some of the Indian passengers were transferred to the same wonderful hotel in a closed loop for centralized isolation;

April 19-27: 4 Indian passengers and 1 hotel staff were tested positive, but the local epidemic prevention department did not consider the possibility of missing the quarantined hotel, and did not promptly trace other people who were quarantined here during the same period. Personnel, such as the protagonist of this story-a group of 5 Chinese experts;

April 23-29: The five-member group of Chinese experts who have been recruited unknowingly travels everywhere in Vietnam...

April 30th-May 4th: The five-member group of Chinese experts finally finished their business trip and returned to China through the Friendship Pass on April 30. They were successively tested positive in Pingxiang (the first time Pingxiang was at a loss Viet Nam was notified...otherwise, both sides will be severely affected this time)

May 2-May 7: Vietnam received a notification and quickly turned around to find out the itinerary of the five-member group of Chinese experts. The first thing that broke out was a karaoke hall in Yongfu Province (the experts came to wash the dust just after the centralized isolation was lifted on April 23, and they really knew how to play...). From May 2 onwards, 7 women who missed the first-generation close-up and 7 second-generation close-up women have been tested positive one after another;

May 3-May 8: The next recruit was a massage room also located in Vinh Phuc province (the experts came to take care of the business on the evening of April 26). Since May 3, 5 women who have missed the first-generation close, 9 second-generation and 4 third-generation women have been tested positive;

May 4-May 7: The VN168 flight from Da Nang to Hanoi on April 29 continues to be identified. From May 4, 4 passengers in the seats next to the experts in the front and rear rows have been tested positive;

May 7th-May 9th: It's not over yet, there are hotels. From April 27th to 29th, the two unlucky guys who stayed with the experts in a hotel in Da Nang were tested positive on May 7th. As of the 9th, there are 8 second-generation close-connected and 1 third-generation close-connected have been tested positive;

May 8th-May 9th: Finally, the local colleagues who are responsible for receiving the experts... From May 8th, 3 first-generation close-ups and 19 second-generation close-ups have been tested positive.



six,

The above is just a real infection path.

In Da Nang, there is a long list of temporarily unsuccessful ones (see the right part of the picture).

Although there is no real hammer, the suspicion is not small.

Because the check-out time coincided with the schedule of the experts' business trip in Da Nang, the place of the accident happened to be a well-known local entertainment venue near the hotel where the experts were staying.

As for the lack of real hammers, it may be because it is not easy for the experts to make real hammers in some entertainment activities outside of work...



Seven,

Everyone must have already tasted the horror of the new Poison King.

The first is the short generation gap.

For example, at the beginning, in the isolation hotel, the poisoned Indian brother only checked in on the 18th. By the evening of the 23rd, the experts were already able to infect women who stumbled in karaoke halls... 10 days later, on May 4, the fourth generation of positives also appeared...

For another example, the experts visited a massage shop in Yongfu Province on the evening of April 26, and the fourth generation emerged after 10 days...



Then it is highly infectious.

Infect three rows before and after flying on a plane, sing a song to infect 7 accompany singing princesses, and press a motorcycle to infect 12 spa girls...

The most frightening thing is the Da Nang infection chain that has not yet been fully hammered... The BN3131 case recruited at the New Oriental Bar in Da Nang had a meeting with 22 beauty salon colleagues in an asymptomatic state. A few days later, 18 of them were recruited. ...



Sure enough, the close observation experience is more terrifying than the dry figures and graphs in Britain or India.



Eight,

Equally scary is Vietnam.

With such a short intergenerational interval and such an erratic chain of infection, they were basically not lost (otherwise this picture would not be drawn...)

Even most of the time, it can be isolated in advance.

Although the situation was thrilling, it barely survived the collapse.

At the time, it was known as a small expert in the anti-epidemic in Southeast Asia. As a result, the real test will come. Cambodia, Myanmar, Thailand, Malaysia and Laos have all crossed, Singapore also has a crisis-ridden appearance... I hope the only remaining seedlings in the Indochina Peninsula can be stabilized~



nine,

MVP is Pingxiang.

Ma yeah, it's a shame...

reference
^https://assets.publishing.service.g...Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_10_England.pdf
Original address: Click here to view the original
Don't worry, manufacturing is moving to Vietnam, can't let the little factory of the world go on lockdown and disrupt production of those hot commodity electronics can they?
 

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Exclusive: After hiking prices, China now sending sub-standard oxygen concentrators to India
Documents and photos show that Chinese companies have not only increased prices but also altered specifications and components used in making oxygen concentrators that are being sent to India. India has also lodged protest over price hike of Covid-19 related critical equipment by Chinese suppliers.
It is a matter of life and death, but China is choosing to make profits at the cost of people’s lives. Not only have Chinese companies indulged in surge pricing with an increase in demand, they are now sending sub-standard Covid-19 related critical equipment to India.

India Today has accessed documents and photographic proof to show how the companies have not only jacked up prices but also altered specifications and components used in making the oxygen concentrators for India, compromising on the quality and life cycle of the machine, which could lead to a medical catastrophe in India.

Different companies are quoting separate prices for the 5-litre and 10-litre concentrators. While the rates vary, most show an increase in the cost in the past weeks. This even as Beijing has been trying to portray the exports as a “humanitarian” gesture.

“Chinese companies carry forward the spirit of humanitarianism, focus on saving lives, respond to the wants and needs of the Indian people. That reveals their social responsibilities as well as the goodwill in helping India fight #Covid-19. Thumbs-up for what they have done,” Chinese envoy to India Ambassador Sun Weidong had tweeted applauding the relief efforts.


As far as it goes. #China provides most oxygen concentrators to #India, and keeps producing oxygen concentrators&other medical equipment for India.



— Sun Weidong (@China_Amb_India) May 4, 2021
But, in reality, if you look at the invoices of one of the manufacturers, Yuwell, the prices stood at $340 per piece on April 30. Weeks later, the cost of each container went up to $460 (as of May 12).

All these procurements are primarily by companies that are donating to India, but there has been no concession whatsoever.

The USISPF (US-India Strategic Partnership Forum) alone has pledged 1 lakh oxygen concentrators to India as part of the Covid relief assistance. The majority of the equipment is being procured from China.



The two invoices show the cost of an oxygen container went up to $460 from $340. (Photo:India Today)
‘Increase in Prices, Decrease in Quality’
Indian businessmen speaking to India Today, on condition of anonymity, said the sudden rise in demand which was unplanned for the manufacturing industry led to an “increase in prices and decrease in quality”.

The increase in price is nearly three times the actual rate of the product in many cases.


(Photo:India Today)


One of the businessmen, helping in the procurement of these concentrators for NGOs in India, told India Today that this increase in price is “not due to the increasing cost of raw materials but because of limited supply. Most of the raw material suppliers and factories are making the most of it, leading to many buyers offering higher prices.”


India Today also accessed a conversation where booked orders were cancelled and the manufacturers quoted a higher price for the old order.
“Many factories booked orders in April and took initial deposits but did not deliver the products. Just after labour holidays they started to ask for higher prices for the previously booked orders,” said one of the Indian buyers.

The buyer further added, “Some companies like Zhengzhou Olive, Shenzhen Hongxinyuan Electronics, Guangzhou Ogwel, Yobekan Shenzhen, Longfian Scitech Co to name a few even doubled and tripled cost of the April orders or refused to give delivery and also delayed refunding the deposits.”

Quality Compromised
There are major quality issues with new supplies. According to Indian buyers in China, they have rejected many consignments after finding out that the components that were used were cheaper alternatives to what was originally used.

This could severely compromise the safety of people whose lives are already in danger in India, explained one of the Indian buyers, and added that there are no quality checks of the products since the situation is desperate.

“But, we are buying way more expensive products for half its quality and the life span will by only a few hundred hours as opposed to a few thousand hours that it originally is meant to be,” said the buyer.

He explained, “As the demand was not forecast, the main components like medical compressors, molecular sieve, PCBA, outer shell, compressor cooling coils, etc, went out of stock. The assembling factories then started using non-medical grade components in the oxygen generators (as explained in the chart).”



Compressors that are being used in the latest orders are under capacity and not medical grade. The 10-litre pieces need 1bar pressure which only a 750 W or 550W compressor can do. But, the new pieces have been installed with normal compressors.



“Both India and Chinese governments should take joint initiative to fight against the pandemic as we are neighbours and have a long history of brotherhood that we must acknowledge. Both must try and control the situation for the benefit of mankind. Joint efforts should be made to stop some people who try to benefit from the pandemic,” Indian businessman Vishal Chada told India Today from Shenzhen in China

India Lodges Strong Protest
India has lodged a strong protest with China regarding the “price hike” by Chinese suppliers. Talking to the South China Morning Post, India’s Consul General in Hong Kong, Priyanka Chauhan, took up the matter with the Chinese authorities.

India has demanded China stop the increase in the prices of medical items. India has expressed hope that amid the surge in coronavirus cases in the country, China will rein in the price of products to be purchased to combat the disease.

Indian diplomat Priyanka Chauhan said, “Our expectation is that the supply chain should remain open and the price of the products should also be stable.”

She added, “Even though there is pressure on supply and demand, there should be stability in the prices of products. The prices of the products should also be forecast.”

Regarding Chinese businessmen, she said, "I do not know how much influence the Chinese government can have in this case, but if they can do it, it would be welcome.”
 

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Exclusive: After hiking prices, China now sending sub-standard oxygen concentrators to India
Documents and photos show that Chinese companies have not only increased prices but also altered specifications and components used in making oxygen concentrators that are being sent to India. India has also lodged protest over price hike of Covid-19 related critical equipment by Chinese suppliers.
I dont know why still we import from china by looking what they have done.
 

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Don't worry, manufacturing is moving to Vietnam, can't let the little factory of the world go on lockdown and disrupt production of those hot commodity electronics can they?
If they don't lockdown and if the community transmission starts then Vietnam will be screwed up.
 

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. So do you believe that all administrators at the top were so incompetent that they would not factor in a worst case scenario at all? I think that is an over-simplistic assessment.
Everyone would have factored in a worst case scenario, however bad the present situation is, the worst would have been even more terrible. However this wasn’t an easy scenario to plan for, made all the more difficult both for political and economic reasons. There is nothing simplistic about the current scenario. The backlash against the first lockdown which actually saved India, even more clearly seen with hindsight made the political leaders including Modi wary. While there are issues with the vaccines where the government’s hands might have been tied, the issues with oxygen, beds, drug shortages and cremation/burial arrangements could and should have been planned for. When you realise that the worst that has happened now could have been much more acute, some questions need to be asked about planning. Its either incompetence or complacency , most likely a mix of both. That much is clear, if we get off with minimal damage now, we are just lucky . The whole system collapsed with just a 4 time increase over the first wave peak, imagine if it was worse. The complacency was not just of the centre, the states have ctontributed much more to this situation. Easy to blame because the economic costs of the last year have been devastating for the states but some of these things could have been managed without a huge fund outlay, just some better planning but most states shut down their covid war rooms by January. The PM’s advice against lockdowns only made the situation worse, however well intentioned it was.
Hindsight is always 20/20 but if the administration got some credit for its handling the first time around, they should get some of the brickbats now.
 

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Not sure what is happening in MH.
1. Those who have received their first dose in March will not be getting any 2nd dose this month.
2. Those who are 45+ are not being given their first dose.
3. Those who have recovered in March not given their first dose for 45+ category.
4. Healthcare and FLWs are not being prioritized for their first dose and they will have to wait for their age group eligibility.
5. 18-44 age group drive has also been suspended.

What the Duck are they doing with the vaccines then ?
 

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Not sure what is happening in MH.
1. Those who have received their first dose in March will not be getting any 2nd dose this month.
2. Those who are 45+ are not being given their first dose.
3. Those who have recovered in March not given their first dose for 45+ category.
4. Healthcare and FLWs are not being prioritized for their first dose and they will have to wait for their age group eligibility.
5. 18-44 age group drive has also been suspended.

What the Duck are they doing with the vaccines then ?
There have been changes done with how vaccinations are given. 2nd dose for covishield is now changed to 12-16 weeks instead of 6-8 weeks earlier. For those who have been infected , the recommendation for the vaccine dose is now 6 months later.

Healthcare workers should have been vaccinated earlier, the problem now is that there is a scam going on where people are being registered as such and being given vaccines when they were not eligible. Shouldn’t be much of a problem now since it’s opened to all eligible age groups but the dose should be given from state procurement, not central.

The other issues of vaccine availability is temporary and will sort itself out.
 

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