Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

[Lost user]

if you recall, US UK were making blind bets to secure doses without waiting for trial results. they bet on many vaccines.

in may last year our entire focus was on :
-coming out of lock downs,
-building labs,
-test kits,
-ppe,
-HCQ,
-ventilators,
-sanitisers,
-testing,
-isolation,
-treatment,
-migrant workers,
-rations during lockdowns,
-PLA on LAC,
-DBT money for people
-containment zones,
-Tabligi were spitting on nurses

and whatever nonsense news media was throwing at people.

scale and scope of complexity of UK and India were entirely at a different level.

GOI did a fantastic job during the first wave.. to steer the country with its ramshackle health care system is no mean feat.. All, it can be accused of is taking eye off the ball in case of the second wave.. But, knowing how Modi Gov. Operates.. I don't expect any oxygen demand mayhem, even if a third wave of the same size hits us.. ( That's a big if.. as alarms will be triggered much sooner, if a third wave starts building).

 

[captscooby81]

Amazing on odd day pull number of people vaccinated and even day pull % which ever suits our skulduggery we will pull that

please also mention the population of

USA 33 core 36 % vaccinated
UK 6 crore 29 %
India 138 crore 2 % vaccinated

By the way there is one more country who has done better than all with 92% vaccination just that its overall population is 98k its called seychelles

Even with all the so called delay in starting vaccination with absolute number of doses given and also fully vaccinated we are still in the top 3 numbers

You should compare apple to apples not with watermelon . Like one given apple to eat and other given watermelon to eat and then apple guy jumping in celebration saying i had finished eating it faster .

Swarajya doing mental gymnastics

% fully vaccinated

US 36.2 %
UK 29 %
India 2 %

Should have given that 4300 crore credit to SII and BB back in january itself or in 2020,

Not wait until April , last month.

 

[sorcerer]

Dr Harsh Vardhan tweets advice to detect, manage Black Fungus

Union minister of health and family welfare, science & technology and earth sciences Dr Harsh Vardhan advised people on the early detection and management of Mucormycosis - commonly known as Black Fungus. He took to twitter to advice people on black fungus, its symptoms and required action once someone contracts the infection.

“Mucormycosis or ‘black fungus' has been observed in a number of COVID-19 patients recently. Awareness & early diagnosis can help curb the spread of the fungal infection. Black Fungus is a rare but serious condition that has been reported in a number of coronavirus patients”, said minister in a tweet on Friday. He shared four slides on the fungus, symptoms and required action once someone contracts the infection.

Mucormycosis has become a talked about subject after a few recovering and recovered COVID-19 patients were found infected with the fungus. Here are the frequently asked questions (FAQ’s) on the disease that were addressed by the Dr Harsh Vardhan:

What is Mucormycosis?

Mucormycosis is a fungal infection mainly affecting people with medical health problems that reduces their ability to fight environmental pathogens. People catch mucormycosis by coming in contact with the fungal spores in the environment. It can also develop on the skin after the fungus enters the skin through a cut, scrape, burn, or other type of skin trauma.

“Mucormycosis or ‘black fungus' has been observed in a number of COVID-19 patients recently. Awareness & early diagnosis can help curb the spread of the fungal infection. Black Fungus is a rare but serious condition that has been reported in a number of coronavirus patients”, said minister in a Tweet on Friday. He shared four slides on the fungus, symptoms and required action once someone contracts the infection.

How can a patient contract the infection?

People having co-morbities, variconazole therapy, uncontrolled diabetes mellitus, immunosuppression by steroids or prolonged ICU stay can get predisposed to the fungal infection.

What are the symptoms of Mucormycosis?

Pain or redness around the eyes, fever, headache, coughing, shortness of breath, bloody vomit and altered mental status are possible symptoms of the infection, minister added.

Do’s and Don’ts

"Don't consider all cases of blocked nose as cases of bacterial sinusitis, especially in the cases of immunosuppression and/ or COVID-19 patients on immunomodulators," minister advised in his tweet.

India Science Wire

https://vigyanprasar.gov.in/isw/Dr-harsh-vardhan-tweets-advice-to-detect-manage-black-fungus.html

 

[sorcerer]

10,000 Packets Of DRDO's Anti-Covid Oral Drug To Be Distributed Tomorrow


3 minutes

The 2-G drug had shown promising results in its phase 2 and phase 3 clinical trials.
New Delhi:
An anti-coronavirus drug developed by Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) will be launched tomorrow, with Union Defence Minister Rajnath Singh distributing around 10,000 doses to some hospitals in the national capital.
The drug, called 2-deoxy-D-glucose or 2-DG, was developed by a DRDO lab in collaboration with the Hyderabad-based pharma giant, Dr Reddy's Laboratories. Drugs Controller General of India (DCGI), the country's top drug regulator, has approved the medicine for emergency use.

10,000 Packets Of DRDO's Anti-Covid Oral Drug To Be Distributed Today

An anti-coronavirus drug developed by Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) will be launched tomorrow, with Union Defence Minister Rajnath Singh distributing nearly 10,000 doses to some hospitals in the national capital.

www.ndtv.com

 

[mokoman]

Amazing on odd day pull number of people vaccinated and even day pull % which ever suits our skulduggery we will pull that

please also mention the population of

USA 33 core 36 % vaccinated
UK 6 crore 29 %
India 138 crore 2 % vaccinated

By the way there is one more country who has done better than all with 92% vaccination just that its overall population is 98k its called seychelles

Even with all the so called delay in starting vaccination with absolute number of doses given and also fully vaccinated we are still in the top 3 numbers

You should compare apple to apples not with watermelon . Like one given apple to eat and other given watermelon to eat and then apple guy jumping in celebration saying i had finished eating it faster .

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if you recall, US UK were making blind bets to secure doses without waiting for trial results. they bet on many vaccines.

in may last year our entire focus was on :
-coming out of lock downs,
-building labs,
-test kits,
-ppe,
-HCQ,
-ventilators,
-sanitisers,
-testing,
-isolation,
-treatment,
-migrant workers,
-rations during lockdowns,
-PLA on LAC,
-DBT money for people
-containment zones,
-Tabligi were spitting on nurses

and whatever nonsense news media was throwing at people.

scale and scope of complexity of UK and India were entirely at a different level.

My complaint was with the swarajyamag article.

How To Bulk Order Vaccines (And How Not To)

Large orders by themselves cannot make vaccine production rate improve. The data bears this out. An order volume of four billion doses with essentially no clarity on timelines is pointless.India, with its limited investments in terms of orders, matches EU+UK and US combined in cumulative vaccine...

swarajyamag.com

Not only did western nations fund covishield , SII got close to a 900 million from them for capacity

How much did India pay ? , i cant any source for either orders or funds earlier than january and that too only for 11 million doses.

That article is simply putting a "good spin" on India being a late cheapskate.

We should have secured more orders , much earlier than january.

 

[Pash]

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

OK. The fall of the 2nd wave seems way too rapid. Not complaining though:-

Today's cases (Gujarat, Chhattisgarh Assam, Jharkhand data awaited)
2,59,999 daily new cases (might rise to 2,80,000 new cases at most today)
3,36,056 recoveries
3689 deceased

Yesterday it was ~3,10,000 new cases, hovered around 3,50,000 new cases for a few days before that. And was above 4,00,000 cases for a few days before that. Hopefully this decline continues.

 

[captscooby81]

Again one more thread offcourse its written by BJP MLA that doesn't make it unworthy . People questioning govt lethargic in vaccine orders or securing doses

In this thread you will see PM visited hyderabad pune and ahmedabad last year

(he visited three facilities , SII , BB and Zydus , why would he visit to Zydus when its vaccine is not even in 3rd phase of clinical trails ? if he was so complacent in relying on only 2 vaccine manufacturers . On his hyderabad visit he also meet Biological E team . so make that as 4 vaccine manufacturers visit ).



A task force was constituted in April 2020, which immediately set upon the task of providing the support/framework to any poosible vaccine rollouts in future.... REMEMBER- THIS WAS ONE YEAR BACK . Read the quoted tweet and you will know what was happening behind the scenes ...
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Adar Poonawalla

@adarpoonawalla
· 29 Apr 2020
Under Narendra Modiji's vision for improving health care in #India, many hurdles that vaccine manufacturers faced have been cleared leading to a never before seen development cycle for the #COVIDー19 vaccine @PMOIndia @TimesNow @navikakumar

Almost one year back!! May 5 2020 - meeting of an already constituted task force on coronavirus vaccine ... Hurdles that vaccine manufacturers faced were already cleared... Deliberations, discussions with different countries, organizations were already on ...
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Narendra Modi

@narendramodi
· 5 May 2020
Chaired a meeting on the Task Force on Corona Vaccine Development, Drug Discovery, Diagnosis and Testing. http://nm-4.com/c3d9

It was ensured that approvals or any hurdles did not impact the work. Communication channels were streamlined and made responsive. The encouragement and respect was reciprocated by the industry and scientific community! There was light at the end of the tunnel!!!
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Adar Poonawalla

@adarpoonawalla
· 17 May 2020
Thanks to your speedy and timely approvals, @narendramodi ji, India will have a made-in-India vaccine for a made-in-China virus. @PMOIndia @PiyushGoyal @MoHFW_INDIA @drharshvardhan twitter.com/republic/statu…

June 30,2020 We were already planning and preparing for vaccination against Covid-19, as and when the vaccine was available.
@narendramodi
ji enunciated four guiding principles to form the foundation of the national effort: first, that vulnerable groups should 1/4
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Narendra Modi

@narendramodi
· 30 Jun 2020
Reviewed preparations relating to a vaccine to cure COVID-19. An important subject that was discussed was the creation of a tech platform that would complement vaccination at scale across the nation. http://nm-4.com/inh9


be identified and prioritized for early vaccination,for example doctors, nurses, healthcare workers,non-medical frontline corona warriors,and vulnerable people among the general population; second, that vaccination of “anyone, anywhere”should take place,i.e.without imposition of any domicile related restrictions for getting the vaccine; third, that vaccination must be affordable and universal - no person should be left behind; and fourth, that the entire process from production to vaccination should be monitored and supported in real time with
the use of technology. And please remember that the vaccine was yet to be rolled out!! But
@narendramodi
ji was not waiting for the vaccine to arrive and then start doing the work! These were all advance preps to make the process smooth, efficient and far reaching

From "Are we ready?" to "We are ready?" Thanks to our Scientists, we had hopes... This was June 2020!! But there were trials, tests to be done before the vaccine was finally available for India and world!!
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Adar Poonawalla

@adarpoonawalla
· 13 Jun 2020
We finally have a deal signed with @AstraZeneca, to exclusively manufacture their product for India and @gavi countries, up to a billion doses annually. This will ensure supply and access to all Indians. https://astrazeneca.com/media-centr...s-to-oxford-universitys-covid-19-vaccine.html


Jul 21, 2020 ... Few million vaccine doses by Nov-Dec and 300 million doses by Jan-Mar 2021. Vaccine to be called #Covishield and to be distributed by Govt to for free. Govt was well aware of the way ahead and preparing accordingly!!
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Adar Poonawalla

@adarpoonawalla
· 21 Jul 2020
Another update... twitter.com/rahulkanwal/st…


Without commenting on it, sharing this tweet to convey that while industry and scientific community were into one of the most crucial stages and need all our support, what others were doing!! Hats off to their perseverance and determination!!!
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Adar Poonawalla

@adarpoonawalla
· 27 Aug 2020
I would kindly request the media to refrain, from reporting on interim data coming in about patients on the SII - Covishield clinical trials. Let us not bias the process. Let us respect the process and stay patient for two months, all the relevant data will be published soon.


Aug 12,2020 Govt sets up National Expert Group on Vaccine Administration for COVID-19 (NEGVAC) which meets for the first time on Aug 12. Deliberates on conceptualisation and implementation mechanisms for creation of a digital infrastructure for inventory management and delivery mechanism of the vaccine including tracking of vaccination process with particular focus on last mile delivery.

Sep 27, 2020 The path was clear and well defined!! India, apart from saving own citizens, was to do everything possible to further global good in the battle against COVID-19 pandemic.
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Adar Poonawalla

@adarpoonawalla
· 27 Sep 2020
We share and applaud your vision @narendramodi ji, on providing vaccines to the global community. It is a proud moment for India, thank you for your leadership and support. It is clear that all your arrangements for India will take care of all needs for the Indian people. twitter.com/narendramodi/s…


Oct 15,2020 Mechanisms for adequate procurement, and technologies for bulk-stockpiling, filling vials for distribution and ensuring effective delivery were discussed along with Government facilitation and support for Indian vaccine developers and manufacturers!!
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Narendra Modi

@narendramodi
· 15 Oct 2020
Reviewed aspects relating to research and vaccine development during a meeting earlier today. Reiterated GOI support for the vaccine development eco-system, which has been working tirelessly over the past few months. http://nm-4.com/t2Tt96


Oct 17,2020 Apart from other related matters advanced planning of cold storage chains, distribution network, monitoring mechanism, advance assessment, and preparation of ancillary equipment required, such as vails, syringes etc were discussed in detail !!
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Narendra Modi

@narendramodi
· 17 Oct 2020
Reviewed the COVID-19 situation in the country, including preparedness of vaccine delivery, distribution, and administration. Over the last few days, cases and growth rate are steadily declining but there is no room for complacency. http://nm-4.com/X9h411


Oct 17,2020 Apart from other related matters advanced planning of cold storage chains, distribution network, monitoring mechanism, advance assessment, and preparation of ancillary equipment required, such as vails, syringes etc were discussed in detail !!
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Narendra Modi

@narendramodi
· 17 Oct 2020
Reviewed the COVID-19 situation in the country, including preparedness of vaccine delivery, distribution, and administration. Over the last few days, cases and growth rate are steadily declining but there is no room for complacency. http://nm-4.com/X9h411


Nov 28, 2020
@narendramodi
ji personally visited 3 facilities. Anyone could understand the effect that such a visit will have on the Scientists and others involved!! Encouragement has amazing effects on morale and energy!!
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Narendra Modi

@narendramodi
· 28 Nov 2020
Had a good interaction with the team at Serum Institute of India. They shared details about their progress so far on how they plan to further ramp up vaccine manufacturing. Also took a look at their manufacturing facility.


Dec 07, 2020 SII applies for emergency use authorization for the first made-in-India vaccine, COVISHIELD
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Adar Poonawalla

@adarpoonawalla
· 7 Dec 2020
As promised, before the end of 2020, @SerumInstIndia has applied for emergency use authorisation for the first made-in-India vaccine, COVISHIELD. This will save countless lives, and I thank the Government of India and Sri @narendramodi ji for their invaluable support.


Jan 03, 2021 DCGI grants approval to vaccines of
@SerumInstIndia
and
@BharatBiotech
!! India's first COVID-19 vaccine is approved, and ready to roll-out!!
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Narendra Modi

@narendramodi
· 3 Jan
A decisive turning point to strengthen a spirited fight! DCGI granting approval to vaccines of @SerumInstIndia and @BharatBiotech accelerates the road to a healthier and COVID-free nation. Congratulations India. Congratulations to our hardworking scientists and innovators.


Dec 2020-Jan 2021 Dry runs (a process where the effects of a possible failure are intentionally mitigated) were conducted .Complete testing of the system involving (mimicking/dummy-acting)all components of the process, was undertaken before delivery to the actual end-users.

Jan 12 .. 2021 First Shipments for Vaccines for the vaccination drive stating on Jan 16 2021 !!


Jan 16, 2021 Worlds largest vaccination drive starts !! Priority given to healthcare and frontline workers, those above 50 years of age and the under-50 population groups with co-morbidities, together numbering around 27 crore.

 

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[captscooby81]

On sunday testing is always low so don't take those numbers wait till numbers of wednesday that is when we will know the data of first two days of week when testing is in normal levels , Yesterday PM in his meeting asked states to report numbers as it is and not do any under reporting . I feel he is not even confident with rapid decrease in numbers in most states suddenly in a week time , Especially delhi numbers going from 20k to straight 6k in 10 days time .

OK. The fall of the 2nd wave seems way too rapid. Not complaining though:-

Today's cases (Gujarat, Chhattisgarh Assam, Jharkhand data awaited)
2,59,999 daily new cases (might rise to 2,80,000 new cases at most today)
3,36,056 recoveries
3689 deceased

Yesterday it was ~3,10,000 new cases, hovered around 3,50,000 new cases for a few days before that. And was above 4,00,000 cases for a few days before that. Hopefully this decline continues.

 

[ezsasa]

My complaint was with the swarajyamag article.

How To Bulk Order Vaccines (And How Not To)

Large orders by themselves cannot make vaccine production rate improve. The data bears this out. An order volume of four billion doses with essentially no clarity on timelines is pointless.India, with its limited investments in terms of orders, matches EU+UK and US combined in cumulative vaccine...

swarajyamag.com

Not only did western nations fund covishield , SII got close to a 900 million from them for capacity

How much did India pay ? , i cant any source for either orders or funds earlier than january and that too only for 11 million doses.

That article is simply putting a "good spin" on India being a late cheapskate.

We should have secured more orders , much earlier than january.

i haven't read swarajya article.
may be if the money was paid, and vaccine trials failed, it would have been called as scam. that too to a billionaire who goes to office in a rolls royce.

These are tough choices, nature of pandemic is such that there is no right answer.

i suspect, story chinese virus story not over in US and UK, let's wait till dec-jan for US to find out how much of their vaccine strategy has actually worked.

i am looking at how long does vaccine actually protects from the virus? thought came to me because they are now talking about booster shots.

 

[captscooby81]

We can also check once what is the capacity of ecosystem of vaccine manufacturers in india . Like Borosil who supply Vials how quick they can ramp up their production to match the demand of vaccine manufacturers .

 

[Cheran]

My complaint was with the swarajyamag article.

How To Bulk Order Vaccines (And How Not To)

Large orders by themselves cannot make vaccine production rate improve. The data bears this out. An order volume of four billion doses with essentially no clarity on timelines is pointless.India, with its limited investments in terms of orders, matches EU+UK and US combined in cumulative vaccine...

swarajyamag.com

Not only did western nations fund covishield , SII got close to a 900 million from them for capacity

How much did India pay ? , i cant any source for either orders or funds earlier than january and that too only for 11 million doses.

That article is simply putting a "good spin" on India being a late cheapskate.

We should have secured more orders , much earlier than january.

Efficacy of the SII Covishield vaccine was proved by DCGI as of Jan 3. Refer tweet by Adaar Poonawala:-

50mn doses ready as DCGI approves Serum’s Covishield

Minutes after DCGI issued a statement, approving Covishield and Bharat Biotech’s Covaxin for restricted emergency use, SII said it is ready to roll out the vaccines in India

www.hindustantimes.com

After DCGI approval, below happen

Why did GOI not pre order vaccines prior to DCGI approval for efficacy ?

Maybe they were following the due process of "let DCGI approval come" & then order be placed, lest they be accused of participating in a scam.

Now we can opine anything because of hindsight.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

In 15 days, BJP & RSS workers turn Kolar hospital defunct for 20 yrs into 300-bed Covid facility

In 15 days, BJP & RSS workers turn Kolar hospital defunct for 20 yrs into 300-bed Covid facility

The Bharat Gold Mines Limited hospital, a 140-year-old institution at the Kolar Gold Fields near Bengaluru, will start operating from Monday.

theprint.in

 

[captscooby81]

Funny right AP says in June 2020 that SII secured billion vaccine annually deal with Astra under GAVI . Why didn't he produce vaccines for them at least considering he got all investments from them as per people here . What stopped him from fulfilling export order with his 6 crore a month capacity ? before january everyone produced a limited quantity to be on safer side if EUA never comes .

There are morons even today running hit job online on BB asking them to release clinical phase 3 data and bla bla . Imagine govt giving go ahead for vaccination before some sort of clarity they would be hounded by all these so called health presstitutes and leftshit rags

Few days ago i participated in Spaces discussion where one doctor said how USA allowed pregnant women to take the vaccine without even giving approval and why India is not giving approval to vaccinate women , He said we can't take such risk like USA when our entire vaccine drive runs on narratives build by political parties and media

Allowing someone to take vaccine is not same as approving the vaccine for administration

Efficacy of the SII Covishield vaccine was proved by DCGI as of Jan 3. Refer tweet by Adaar Poonawala:-

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50mn doses ready as DCGI approves Serum’s Covishield

Minutes after DCGI issued a statement, approving Covishield and Bharat Biotech’s Covaxin for restricted emergency use, SII said it is ready to roll out the vaccines in India

www.hindustantimes.com

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After DCGI approval, below happen

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Why did GOI not pre order vaccines prior to DCGI approval for efficacy ?

Maybe they were following the due process of "let DCGI approval come" & then order be placed, lest they be accused of participating in a scam.

Now we can opine anything because of hindsight.

 

[Lost user]

i haven't read swarajya article.
may be if the money was paid, and vaccine trials failed, it would have been called as scam. that too to a billionaire who goes to office in a rolls royce.

These are tough choices, nature of pandemic is such that there is no right answer.

i suspect, story chinese virus story not over in US and UK, let's wait till dec-jan for US to find out how much of their vaccine strategy has actually worked.

i am looking at how long does vaccine actually protects from the virus? thought came to me because they are now talking about booster shots.

The descendents of the H1N1 Spanish flu virus still cause significant fatalities each year in the US.. a 100 years after the pandemic.. although they have become less virulent. It is strange that India as the country most impacted by the Spanish flu, never had to face endemic influenza like the US faces each year..
So, we can expect SARS-COV-2 and its descendents to be with us for a long time to come..

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6187799/

 

[Lost user]

AAP did nautanki.. got excess Oxygen.. now more nautanki for free vaccines from Centre.. Their antics are similar to what I used to do, when I was 4 years old.. I used cry loudly, roll on the road, until father got me Cadbury's gems.. Looks like PAAP expects expects everyone but itself to foot the bill for vaccines

 

[mokoman]

Tamil Nadu allows Chinese Covid vaccine makers to bid unlike Mumbai

Tamil Nadu government's global tender for 3.5 crore doses of Covid-19 vaccine does not restrict Chinese vaccine makers from bidding

www.business-standard.com

Weird article ,

Tamil Nadu hasnt explicitly kept out Chinese vaccine makers , but bid requires vaccine to have Drugs Controller General of India approval.

Have we given chinese vaccines approval ?

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Chinese have so far given out 324 million doses , they claim to have exported another 100 million

i think our numbers are half that.

i dont who maybe GOI , or that rat Poonawalla, , but someone fucked up our vaccine production.

 

[Lost user]

Tamil Nadu allows Chinese Covid vaccine makers to bid unlike Mumbai

Tamil Nadu government's global tender for 3.5 crore doses of Covid-19 vaccine does not restrict Chinese vaccine makers from bidding

www.business-standard.com

Weird article ,

Tamil Nadu hasnt explicitly kept out Chinese vaccine makers , but bid requires vaccine to have Drugs Controller General of India approval.

Have we given chinese vaccines approval ?

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Chinese have so far given out 324 million doses , they claim to have exported another 100 million

i think our numbers are half that.

i dont who maybe GOI , or that rat Poonawalla, , but someone fucked up our vaccine production.

As I said earlier, this was bound to happen.. The Chinese vaccines are the only ones that are available for near term delivery..

 

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As I said earlier, this was bound to happen.. The Chinese vaccines are the only ones that are available for near term delivery..

The resident wumaos of this board are going to have a field day gloating in the new few weeks or months.