Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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It's for the people of the US to judge their healthcare system i am a citizen of India and i can critique the Indian healthcare system which i found to be absolutely inadequate.
You mean to say you found out about the inadequacy in healthcare sector in India after a brief episode of soul searching prodded by Chinese mockery of India?

Yes, as citizens of USA would decide about US's health care system, Indians will about India. Last I know, we haven't granted Chinese honorary Indian citizenship.

Yes, prodded introspection and padded bra both present a picture which may not be accurate.
 
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The creator and leader of the India independence movement was Gandhi. The masses, muggles, plebs, zombies, golems just followed him, their leader.
Those were revolutionaries. Gandhi was the part of "naram dal" which was into merely gaining some autonomy and remained so until 1930s.

WW2 made it unaffordable to govern a rebellious country like India for Brits.
But this calls for deep introspection on our part........how can a nation that aspires to be a superpower

always fails it's people and fails to provide even the most basic service to it's citizens.

They are mocking us because they stand on a higher pedestal than us.Atleast their citizens can be assured that when they fall sick,they don't have to bother about things like beds and oxygen.
The Chinese people are mocking us because we are providing them an opportunity to do so.
It actually doesn't really in this case. This trolling is silly and racist in nature enjoying human suffering, regardless of economic stature of China and India, no matter how much you try to justify it.

East Asians, especially Chinese and Koreans hold a superiority covered inferiority "MeeToo" complex towards whites. They want to be like whites. Such trolling is political in nature and is done for solely same purpose. They for sure would be trolling dying Indians even if India was richer. People like you would pick weapons if India ever tries to use Chinese methods to reach same pedestal (since those are solely oligarchic).

We too make space rockets and are among world's largest manufacturer of same. For the case being, we are world's largest manufacturer of medical equipment. The sudden wave strangulated our logistics and cut down supplies. The new variant of virus can't be detected in RT-PCR tests and isn't affected by most of vaccines available, can dissolve in air and water vapors and travel with rains and air.
It would be stupid believe this wouldn't have caused similar havoc elsewhere and declaring Indian system failed which had came victorious of this shitshow earlier just a month ago. US COVID tracker has stopped publishing daily data, South American and European countries have cut down testing rates, east Asians didn't test at all and Afriacns aren't even able to document properly while India's overall daily tests have only gone up.

You don't have to be in a fool's paradise but being pessimistic solely in an emotional tone doesn't make you look wise.


And this pathetic trolling was disgusting. I didn't see any other country in world mocking China even in bigger disasters like GLF or cultural revolution. And they weren't just failed strategies, they were same fad of why can't we do this, that good that bad without logics. Just look an shiny things and jump like idiots without plan.
 
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Those were revolutionaries. Gandhi was the part of "naram dal" which was into merely gaining some autonomy and remained so until 1930s.

WW2 made it unaffordable to govern a rebellious country like India for Brits.
okay then I stand corrected. Undoubtedly Indians know better than I what led to Indian Independence.
 

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US COVID tracker has stopped publishing daily data, South American and European countries have cut down testing rates, east Asians didn't test at all and Afriacns aren't even able to document properly while India's overall daily tests have only gone up.
Where do you get these?

I didn't see any other country in world mocking China even in bigger disasters like GLF or cultural revolution.
Really? Are you just coming from Mars?
 

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Those were revolutionaries. Gandhi was the part of "naram dal" which was into merely gaining some autonomy and remained so until 1930s.

WW2 made it unaffordable to govern a rebellious country like India for Brits.


It actually doesn't really in this case. This trolling is silly and racist in nature enjoying human suffering, regardless of economic stature of China and India, no matter how much you try to justify it.

East Asians, especially Chinese and Koreans hold a superiority covered inferiority "MeeToo" complex towards whites. They want to be like whites. Such trolling is political in nature and is done for solely same purpose. They for sure would be trolling dying Indians even if India was richer. People like you would pick weapons if India ever tries to use Chinese methods to reach same pedestal (since those are solely oligarchic).

We too make space rockets and are among world's largest manufacturer of same. For the case being, we are world's largest manufacturer of medical equipment. The sudden wave strangulated our logistics and cut down supplies. The new variant of virus can't be detected in RT-PCR tests and isn't affected by most of vaccines available, can dissolve in air and water vapors and travel with rains and air.
It would be stupid believe this wouldn't have caused similar havoc elsewhere and declaring Indian system failed which had came victorious of this shitshow earlier just a month ago. US COVID tracker has stopped publishing daily data, South American and European countries have cut down testing rates, east Asians didn't test at all and Afriacns aren't even able to document properly while India's overall daily tests have only gone up.

You don't have to be in a fool's paradise but being pessimistic solely in an emotional tone doesn't make you look wise.


And this pathetic trolling was disgusting. I didn't see any other country in world mocking China even in bigger disasters like GLF or cultural revolution. And they weren't just failed strategies, they were same fad of why can't we do this, that good that bad without logics. Just look an shiny things and jump like idiots without plan.
You are on the right path of reasoning.
Call a spade a spade.

This is a concerted effort to stop the Indian economy dead in its tracks.
 

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Look at these bastards of Allahabad high court. .talking of genocide.. in the age of heart transplant.. as if India is a developed nation.. This playing to the Gallery and delegitimizing the executive is abhorrent
 

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Look at these bastards of Allahabad high court. .talking of genocide.. in the age of heart transplant.. as if India is a developed nation.. This playing to the Gallery and delegitimizing the executive is abhorrent
Like they are the epitome of truth and liberalism talking about genocides they never thought anything about real genocides, I really want courts to be given administration for a day and take the taste first hand they think of themselves as some high-class VIP from their own shady courts who need lifafas to even complete a case.
 

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Nutrient needs of older people

We have often seen at home, the grandparents share their food with the young ones saying - Give the food to the kids, they need it more than us.” This is very dangerous when our elders start feeling that now they don’t need to eat like before. We understand that energy requirements decline with age but not the needs of the body. Their appetite reduces with time, but the body still needs proper nutrient intake. This need has to be taken care of with less quantity and more quality.


A person’s daily calorie needs depend on his/her height, weight, muscle mass, activity level and several other factors. But, definition of balanced diet is not the same for all age groups. It differs with age, gender, needs, etc. Older adults generally need fewer calories. It is even common to lose muscle and strength as you age. However, the nutrient needs are just as high or higher than when they were younger. Therefore, eating nutrient-rich, whole foods becomes extremely important.


Lower food intake among the elderly has been associated with lower intakes of calcium, iron, zinc, vitamins, etc. Low energy intakes or low nutrient density of the diet may increase the risk of diet-related illnesses and pose a health problem. A varied diet that concentrates on fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes, dairy foods and lean meats can meet the basic nutritional requirements of older adults.


Physiological changes associated with age, including slower gastric emptying, altered hormonal responses, decreased basal metabolic rate, and altered taste and smell may contribute to lowered energy intake. Experts even highlight that constipation is a common health problem among the elderly. It is especially common in people over 65, and it is two to three times more common in women. Eating fibre may help relieve constipation. It passes through the gut undigested, helping form stool and promote regular bowel movements.


Other factors such as marital status, income, education, socioeconomic status, diet-related attitudes and beliefs, play a role as well. And when we talk specifically about people above 60 year of age, things get more complicated for many more reasons. Dr Seema Puri, Associate Professor in Department of Nutrition of Institute of Home Economics at University of Delhi raises concerns like “Malnutrition in elderly is multifactorial and often influenced by socio-psychological factors like loneliness, depression, loss of a spouse, living alone etc. and not only economic reasons. Hence, it is important to address these issues too.”


Now, how to address the issue? Age-related nutritional problems may be remedied to some extent by providing nutrient-dense meals. Dr. A. Laxmaiah, Head, Division of Community Studies at National Institute of Nutrition, recommends “Geriatric population should take more of vitamin D, Calcium, vitamin B12, because deficiency of these nutrients is very high in older age groups. This could be due to low absorption.” Dr. Seema Puri adds here - “Calcium and vitamin D are very important and the needs are increased - so exposure to sunlight for vitamin D, consumption of fortified foods and calcium rich foods like dairy are important.”





A person’s daily calorie needs depend on his/her height, weight, muscle mass, activity level and several other factors. But, definition of balanced diet is not the same for all age groups. It differs with age, gender, needs, etc. Older adults generally need fewer calories. It is even common to lose muscle and strength as you age. However, the nutrient needs are just as high or higher than when they were younger. Therefore, eating nutrient-rich, whole foods becomes extremely important.
Nutritional supplements are believed to fulfill the deficiency of food elements in our diet. The purpose of the nutritional supplement is to add that little extra to your normal diet. Elders need more of certain nutrients generally missed out due to their low appetite for food. So, supplements are seen by many as having the potential to fulfill the needs.


An elder needs a few nutritional supplements like Calcium, Vitamin D for bone health Vitamin B6 needed to form red blood cells and Vitamin B12 to keep the red blood cells healthy. As per Dr. K Damayanti, Retired Scientist at National Institute of Nutrition in Hyderabad - “Multi vitamin and mineral supplements are not recommended on regular basis. But in case of Vitamin B12, it has some issue with absorption due to lack of intrinsic factor. Absorption powers of a human body gradually reduces with age, so supplements are preferred to be given via injections or in higher doses if it is in form of tablets” Taking supplements at old age is not recommended till the time body needs of a particular nutrient is filled with the help of regular foods and diet. Taking supplements seem to be one of the easiest ways for older adults to meet their daily nutrition requirements, but eating healthy food is the best way to get the nutrients they need.


Experts are unanimous about the quantity and quality of food intake by elder people. Older people must eat more of fruits and vegetables and energy dense foods as their capacity of stomach is less and absorption of vitamins and minerals is less during the old age. Consuming adequate fruits and vegetables provide potassium, along with limiting sodium (salt) intake, which may lower risk of high blood pressure and diabetes.


Dr Laxmaiah recommends - "Including whole grains, legumes, fruits and vegetables will provide fibre vitamins and minerals.”


Dr K. Damayanti suggests similar solutions. She emphasises that “Elderly people need less calories and more fibres, vitamins and minerals. So there is a need to consume micronutrients dense and fibre rich foods. Calcium and Vitamin D requirements for elders are higher than adolescent group so it is essential to consume milk and milk products.” Dr. Laxmaiah recommends older adults to adequately consume low-fat or fat-free dairy products and choose foods that are low in saturated fat to help reduce risk of heart disease.


The elderly are even encouraged to consume nutrient-dense foods such as nuts, oilseed, fruits, vegetables, legumes and flesh foods to meet the daily requirements of vitamins and minerals to prevent multiple micronutrient malnutrition. Nuts and oil seeds are not only rich sources of micronutrients and fibre but also good source of proteins and fats for elders. It is advisable to consume at least 30g of nuts every day. Antioxidants and phytonutrients present naturally in foods are beneficial to promote healthy ageing like in dark coloured fruits and vegetables, herbs and spices, garlic, turmeric, cinnamon, red wine, green tea etc.


When asked about how much the caloric needs of a person gets altered with ageing, Dr. Seema Puri highlights Indian Council of Medical Research recommendations, “As a person ages, his basal metabolic rate slows down. Also the physical activity decreases and therefore the needs of calories also decrease. The recommended estimated energy requirements (EER) based on BMR and physical activity levels, for the sedentary elderly man and woman weighing 65kg and 55kg are 1700 Kcal and 1500Kcal respectively.” She even confirms gender also makes a difference in calorie intake during ageing as women tend to have more fat mass and men have higher muscle mass which is the active tissue.”


Beyond all the nutrition advises, experts also recommend elders to be encouraged to maintain physical activity. For old age people there are many factors to be considered, still with some precautions and understanding, leading a healthy life and reaching a centenary will not be a problem.


Below facts can be used as box items in between the write-up. Box item 1 : As per the 2011 Census report, India has a total of 6.05 lakh individuals over the age of 100.


Box item 2 : Japan is the country with the highest rate of centenarians, at 6 for every 10,000 people or approximately 0.06 percent.


Box item 3 : Residents of Okinawa in Japan are more likely to live to 100 years of age than people in most other regions of Japan. It has been home to more than 1,000 centenarians throughout the past 40 years.


Box item 4 : Okinawa’s diet is low in calories and fat while high in carbs. Their unique diet and lifestyle are credited with giving them some of the longest lifespans on the planet.


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UP Clocks More Recoveries Than Fresh Cases, Breaches Grim 350-mark for One-day Covid Deaths

Uttar Pradesh Tuesday breached the 350-mark for daily Covid-19 deaths as 352 patients succumbed to the viral disease, but one-day recoveries outstripped new cases by over 12,500, according to official figures. The state reported 25,858 new cases and 38,683 recoveries, the data showed.

 
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Indians dont even bother to get tested within the first 5 days of infection.

How would you know that you are infected, if you are asymptomatic?
Moreover most health services departments around the world adivsed their citizen to not go and overvurden testing facilities if they had mild symptoms.

NHS in UK told the citizens same that if you are not having any noticeable symptoms then no need to rush to the hospitals and get tested immediately.
Like they are saying in India that we are not testing enough, same thing is true for whole world. Most People have not been tested everywhere.

Mass scale sero test in Madrid alone last year proved that over 70% residents had corona but did not know as they did not test them because low or no symptoms.
 

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This is pathetic no one I know is able to get registered for vacination
Almost everyone I know in 18-45 age bracket has got them registered within 2-3 days of opening of registrations.
Even many got their fist dose also!
 

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Where do you get these?
It is 100% true!
I said already multiple times. In east asia it is only Korea which did mass scale testing. Go to South east asia they hardly did any testing. They just closed all sectors in all districts and if any one got sick then got them into isolation centers and hoped they died and get rid of virus.

EU nations reduced testing when no of new cases went down and now hardly doing any mass scale tests. UK, Germany, France all asked citizens to not to rush to testing centers unnecessarily.

However US did mass scale testing when they realized it went out of control and still seems to be doing good no of tests each day.
 

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