Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

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[hit&run]

Dude double digit death rate is not something which will not be noticed!
that's 40K to 80K deaths per day, if such death was there then you would see whole neighborhoods getting cleared.
You don't seem to see the no of positive people coming each day.
So many famous people have died doesn't make it even 1% of the population getting infected each day.

So many times I have mentioned it from an advance life support system expert’s perspective that coming out of it is just a matter of luck. No physician will spend time and run tests to find out what worked and what didn’t. The treatment and support is standard. The options are limited. After doing everything and according to evolving clinical condition the patients are left to recover and heal.

You want to keep a patient alive with fullly busted lungs? Yes it can be done using Cardio pulmonary bypass machine also called heart and lung machine used during major cardiac surgeries like heart transplant etc. On average a metropolitan city like Ludhiana may have 2-3 machines in total. Who will connect this machine, who will spend that kind of money and how many machines you can buy, what use that will be of at the end when Lung damage is irreversible? Lungs and heart are physiologically connected, do jism ek Jaan, respiratory arrest is followed by cardiac arrests. Both wait for each other and trigger working.

The textbook mortality rate of sever pneumonia due to known community or nosocomial bacterial infection is more than 30%. In a hospital with average to high facilities and good infection control this rate is easily above 50%.

• Pneumonia can be fatal in up to 30% of severe cases that are managed in the intensive care setting.

In layman’s term 100 people admitted with sever pneumonia 50 of them will die.

The covid mortility rate is far more less than this, around 3.8%. But it is the contagiousness which is inflicting a millions within days that is wrecking the ha

 

[doreamon]

India is complex... Many families ll be devastated if another lock down comes . Only difference ll be such incidents wont be covered in media . There is partial lockdown in my place .. And one shop keeper literally begged me to buy a some biscuit packets as he cnt sell it like before . Our family resturant and hotel already running on loss .

 

[Knowitall]

This Poonawalla story is the biggest proof that BJP needs to go after the communists with a ferocity not seen since the Red Scare in the US

The only people against whom BJP tends to show ferocity is Hindus period.

 

[Nicky G]

Dilli going by the quoted post and UP where again allahabad milards are ‘constantly concerned about the chaos’

In UP, it was the malards who ordered panchayat elections be completed before April 30 and also dismissed a PIL asking for postponing them due to pandemic.

The supreme lards let hundreds of retards occupy Delhi borders despite violence and a pandemic ongoing.

 

[hit&run]

Whilst I share your rage at the manner in which all this is being reported by vested interests in Western and sections of Indian media, I believe there is some truth to the claim around CoviD deaths being underreported. The UK Medical Certification of Cause of Death (MCCD) contains 2 sections where the direct and contributing causes of death are recorded. Anyone dying within 28 days of a CoviD positive result has this cited under contributing causes in the MCCD and therefore counted as a CoviD death, which obviously overestimates the actual numbers.

My understanding (I may be wrong) is that only those patients who test positive at the time of death are classed as CoviD deaths on Indian medical certificates when it's obvious many die from secondary complications when they are no longer CoviD positive. So whilst the doctors can hardly be accused of falsifying death certificates for following protocol, they would most definitely be undercounting genuine CoviD deaths in this case.

In India death of a Covid positive cases is treated as covid deaths. The numbers are not fudged. Only argument here can be that the numbers are not coming out on fast or at real time pace.

Engaged in this silly debate started by Librandus and amplified by dodo conservatives I spoke to few hospitals back home. People are actually making sure the cause is reported as Covid death for insurance purposes and with a view that later on goverment may give some kind of compensation to the deceased family.

 

[mokoman]

some one here already predicted this

Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Looks like the Amerikkkans are using this as an opportunity to force the government to repeal FCRA changes. That's what I'm seeing on various twitters. Anybody have any idea if they will budge? I pray to God that they do not...

defenceforumindia.com

Also this isnt just commies/leftists/rahul ghandi

from the article

The phone calls are the worst thing, says Adar Poonawalla, the biggest manufacturer of vaccines in the world.

The calls come from some of the most powerful men in India. They come from the chief ministers of Indian states, heads of business conglomerates and others demanding instant supplies of Covishield, as the AstraZeneca vaccine is known in India. “ ‘Threats’ is an understatement,” Poonawalla says. “The level of expectation and aggression is really unprecedented.



frankly i think he is been reasonable , but wont go anywhere.

GOI needs to keep him in line , like China kept Jack Ma.SII is too valuable.

 

[Knowitall]

What was the need of doing this during a pandemic especially when many of these people are still camping around delhi and spreading covid in the nearby areas.

These people not only spread covid all round delhi they were also stopping oxygen trucks from reaching their destinations.

Faltu ka publicity stunt kar walo with people who are spreading covid while common man is finding it difficult to get a bed for his family.

Janta will pay in kind to BJP when they get kicked out after every election.

 

[hit&run]

He is a business man, he has been changing statements every month since Dec-Jan.
If he wants to expand, he need not give any explanation to anyone since it is a family owned business.
Last month british media ran a campaign against india based on a misquote from him, i am referring to british media saying india stopped deliveries to UK, which turned out to be a fake campaign.

if Brits want him to setup shop in their country, they can easily do it. It is a western pathological compulsion that some sort of Dogma is always central to their narrative.

The government is giving him Y + security, opposition leader are openly barking at him on international portals like Twitter. Daily trends, memes, bollywood bastards all are pinning him down on one or the other reason. The attacks started way back when the government expeditiously approved the vaccine.

Not a brainer to see what kind of witch hunting is happening. I am sorry I will not doubt a businessman exploring new options and using subtle inconsistencies under such pressure.

 

[Knowitall]

The government is giving him Y + security, opposition leader are openly barking at him on international portals like Twitter. Daily trends, memes, bollywood bastards all are pinning him down on one or the other reason. The attacks started when the government expeditiously approved the vaccine.

Not a brainer to see what kind of witch hunting happening. I am sorry I will not doubt a businessman exploring new options and using subtle inconsistencies under such pressure.

He is being hounded for what some profit? He is a businessman not a philanthropist govt can always cut the rates further by taking on some of the costs.

Thanks to people like him India atleast has a working functioning pharma sector which can help our big population.

Countries around the world are finding it difficult to even get a few dose's they are ready to pay more and yet have no one to help them.

And here we have someone with a proper industry ready to step in and help but we will hound him away.

Let him go this is what we deserve and I know even if he goes we still won't accept our mistake or learn from it.

The opposition will continue to heckle him and the govt is too cucked to book them and stop this nonsense.

 

[ezsasa]

The government is giving him Y + security, opposition leader are openly barking at him on international portals like Twitter. Daily trends, memes, bollywood bastards all are pinning him down on one or the other reason. The attacks started way back when the government expeditiously approved the vaccine.

Not a brainer to see what kind of witch hunting is happening. I am sorry I will not doubt a businessman exploring new options and using subtle inconsistencies under such pressure.

the moment world came to know last year that India manufactures 60% of world’s vaccine, plans would have been set in motion then itself.

there will also be an attempt to reduce india’s global supply of other pharma, wait and watch.

In anglosphere’s world view “what’s mine is mine, what’s yours is negotiable”.

we don’t have enough nationalists(non-politicians) at the top to counter these moves.

 

[doreamon]

Truck carrying 2.40 lakh vaccine found abandoned for 12 hours .. engine was on . Driver conductor missing . Location MP

Madhya Pradesh: Truck laden with Covid-19 vaccine abandoned for 12 hours

The Tamil Nadu-registered vehicle, which was transporting the vaccine from Hyderabad to Karnal in Haryana, was left abandoned for nearly 12 hours in Kareli area.

www.google.com

 

[Cheran]

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1 Paki = 10 Indian, in this case even more.

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

2 in 3 Russians Believe Coronavirus Is a Bioweapon – Poll - The Moscow Times

Nearly two out of three Russians believe the conspiracy theory that the coronavirus is a bioweapon created by humans, a survey by the independent Levada Center polling agency said Monday.

www.themoscowtimes.com

2 in 3 Russians Believe Coronavirus Is a Bioweapon

Weaponized prions very likely. The Viral Shedding is proven and documented. And now mad donkey like brain dmg is showing up as well. Maybe those are secret genocidal components in corona chan.

 

[hit&run]

A story how Pakistan lost the IT FDI and Infra due to its social and security environment which then became India’s turning point as a major IT hub adding massively to our GDP was populated on DFI.

It will be unfortunate if same people can not see the same happening in India first at IPhone manufacturing facility and now Serum Institute. Of course there is a lot of steam in our development engines and story of India is still thriving and will be prosperous. But It is also important to know that every cog wheel of our development engine counts. We must be an inviting place and best inviting places are where people know how to shut up and hold their head down busy in constructive things. Problems will come and go but not chances to grow.

For last 4 week and so I have been debating simpletons who kept dissing India’s recent export of vaccines. Don’t know when this mediocrity of survival mode dweller will end. If you are that insecure then please stop complaining. At one stage in our history 30 to 40% of youth was out in the search of nirvana chasing sages and enlightenment in jungles. Why not choose the same life style again and become Naths and yogis?

 

[tarunraju]

A buddy who works at Hyderabad airport customs said that a huge consignment of Sputnik-V just flew in from Russia.

Hyderabad airport is India's largest air cargo terminal for pharmaceutical imp/ex (it has all the cold-chain and biosafety infrastructure for long-range vaccine transport)..

 

[Mantospace]

The government is giving him Y + security, opposition leader are openly barking at him on international portals like Twitter. Daily trends, memes, bollywood bastards all are pinning him down on one or the other reason. The attacks started way back when the government expeditiously approved the vaccine.

Not a brainer to see what kind of witch hunting is happening. I am sorry I will not doubt a businessman exploring new options and using subtle inconsistencies under such pressure.

Why not z+ security.

Why cant jahils understand only industry can save country.

 

[ezsasa]

A story how Pakistan lost the IT FDI and Infra due to its social and security environment which then became India’s turning point as a major IT hub adding massively to our GDP was populated on DFI.

It will be unfortunate if same people can not see the same happening in India first at IPhone manufacturing facility and now Serum Institute. Of course there is a lot of steam in our development engines and story of India is still thriving and will be prosperous. But It is also important to know that every cog wheel of our development engine counts. We must be an inviting place and best inviting places are where people know how to shut up and hold their head down busy in constructive things. Problems will come and go but not chances to grow.

For last 4 week and so I have been debating simpletons who kept dissing India’s recent export of vaccines. Don’t know when this mediocrity of survival mode dweller will end. If you are that insecure then please stop complaining. At one stage in our history 30 to 40% of youth was out in the search of nirvana chasing sages and enlightenment in jungles. Why not choose the same life style again and become Naths and yogis?

Reposting why pak lost IT sector in 90’s.
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Read an interesting anecdote on twitter a few days back, unable to find it again, So paraphrasing the gist of it.

In late 90's, both pakistan and India were competing for establishing foreign IT companies in our respective countries. Pak army even used to give VIP treatment to visiting company representatives to the extent that they used to send limousine for airport pickup.

Indian govt never bothered with such tamasha.

the guy who is narrating this says, ultimately the company which was scouting both pak and India for establishing their dev centre, chose India. and over a period of time the guy who as assisting them in scouting India became friends with the team who were scouting team, he asked how come they chose India considering he went to pick them up in a maruti omni and Pak army sent them a limousine.

The american guy's response was, when they were about to start their lunch/dinner after they arrived, the pak army host offered their food to be taste tested by a person for poison. That sealed the deal for having their dev centre in India

 

[tarunraju]

A story how Pakistan lost the IT FDI and Infra due to its social and security environment which then became India’s turning point as a major IT hub adding massively to our GDP was populated on DFI.

Pakistan missed the IT bus because of Kargil, Musharraf coup, AQ Khan (nuclear proliferation), and 9/11. They proved to the west that they're largely untrustworthy people, and American businesses cannot trust their processes with a revisionist and virulent state like Pakistan. India sent the right strategic messages since 1991, and climbed the bus.

India missed several buses of its own, including the semiconductor bus due to the way Bhopal Gas Tragedy played out for Union Carbide (they didn't like our liability laws), heavy manufacturing (due to poor land acquisition and FDI% laws, and lack of a clear bankruptcy code); and most recently, the lack of 100% FDI in multi-brand retail hampered a consumer revolution. The Farm Laws are supposed to be an attempt at climbing the next bus. Thanks to turban naxals (and Modi's acute shortage of balls in dealing with them), India is on the verge of losing the next $2 trillion.

Each "bus" doubles our GDP over the following 7-10 years. Vietnam and Bangladesh climbed many buses in the past 3 years.

 

[hit&run]

the moment world came to know last year that India manufactures 60% of world’s vaccine, plans would have been set in motion then itself.

there will also be an attempt to reduce india’s global supply of other pharma, wait and watch.

In anglosphere’s world view “what’s mine is mine, what’s yours is negotiable”.

we don’t have enough nationalists(non-politicians) at the top to counter these moves.

Your approach to this subject is coming from a omission that India is not self reliant. We are best at dispensing what developed world owns and control. Once you recognise this fact our subservience to their whims starts making sense.

The point is there are more problems with us and we are too slow to attend them. This is called problem concentration gradient. The prosperity is problem phobic and it moves from higher concentration towards lower concentration. The prosperity do not wait for luxuries like democracy, secularism, freedom of speech in our case. The prosperity loves order.

Modi has failed to deliver order. He thinks he can sell his comfort with liberty amidst chaos. He is lost in noises and rhetorics of the same people who have given him high end facility to run. They are testing his shrewdness. Though we can not read their minds but the best bet will be to bring the house in order and hope rest will settle by itself.