Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

[Suryavanshi]

without GoI order last year you think oxygen supply would have increased from 3500 MT to 8000 MT oxygen generation?

situation would have been even worse. right now issue was distribution, if not for that order issue would have been production and distribution which is much worse.

I am not demenaing Modi and Shahs effort in any way.
My finger is pointing more towards the people below them in the health ministry.
HV thakur should have been more than capable of handling the medical crisis.
How many men do u think he has? He has the Experts, IAS, IES, scientists and everything under him he should be the one answerable to the media and people.
In a department having thousand of people how does adding PMO straighten out all the issue, it could only mean one thing: the department isn't efficient enough without the PMO?
A country of 1.3 billion should have the most dynamic Medical administration.

HV thakur took a more pro active part in the First wave than this one.
It is this reason why people trust only Modi and not BJP minister's.

 

[SKC]

Your analysis is spot on.
The death rate in India is unchanged.

If we do not test, no bloody one will note one iota of difference.
But you know - democracy!!

This is why I am against this kind of self harming democracy which is day to day turning into demoncracy.

Analysis!
I was talking about the non availability of Beds in Noida, Gr Noida and Ghz.
Where did this death rate comes into picture here.

 

[SKC]

Don't have too much hopes of getting slot allotted before 2nd or 3rd week of May for you again depends on the state . it would be better you ring up any private hospital and confirm vaccine availability and walk in and get jabbed before all those free slots from govt side available

there is already a huge demand of covaxin here in my city called 3 doctors one said i can get covidshield tomorrow if i want but Covaxin he said minimum 2-3 weeks time if i want to get it in govt .

Walk-ins are not allowed for 18+ <45 group. You need to take appointment first.

 

[shade]

Ok man! carry on with data from China!
You win I lost!
No point on debate with you.

The guy is basically trying to say that the virus is engineered somehow to not become severe on Mongoloid hosts but hit every other genetic grouping like a truck, i.e there is some ching chong genetic engineering involved of covid19.
You know like actual bioweapons.

I'd say it's pretty possible, not that we'd know for sure.

 

[Peter]

Ok man! carry on with data from China!
You win I lost!
No point on debate with you.

It is not about winning or losing. I want a scientific enquiry into why certain population clusters are least affected by Covid or why certain countries have escaped the ravages of the pandemic. It is science which will tell us whether it is genetic immunity or simply a case of low population density that affects the disparity in numbers. I am not vouching for any wild goose theory but only playing the devil's advocate here. The cause of the disparity is important if we are to know if the virus is indeed a bioengineered weapon or simply a case of things going wrong due to chance.

 

[SKC]

It is not about winning or losing. I want a scientific enquiry into why certain population clusters are least affected by Covid or why certain countries have escaped the ravages of the pandemic. It is science which will tell us whether it is genetic immunity or simply a case of low population density that affects the disparity in numbers. I am not vouching for any wild goose theory but only playing the devil's advocate here. The cause of the disparity is important if we are to know if the virus is indeed a bioengineereed weapon or simply a case of things going wrong due to chance.

Please do the analysis and enlighten us here.

 

[Peter]

Please do the analysis and enlighten us here.

I hardly have the tools to do such a thing.

On a serious note the WHO should have looked at the data long ago. Even the WHO chief who is a Chinese puppet said that the origins of the virus could not be established with certainty and the lab leak theory while being unlikely cannot be discarded completely. Scientific research into the data would surely throw up something new whether it be low population density and general awareness of wearing mask in East Asian population or the genetic mutations present in them.

 

[Suryavanshi]

I was the one who was peddling haplogroup argument long time ago.

Looks like it's back again.

Regardless in the future our labs should work on Virus *ahem I mean antidode for a disease affecting particular races and ethnicity.

 

[Suryavanshi]

I was the one who was peddling haplogroup argument long time ago.

Looks like it's back again.

Regardless in the future our labs should work on Virus *ahem I mean antidode for a disease affecting particular races and ethnicity.

At the end of the day only thing separating two human of different races is haplogroup.

 

[SKC]

Much needed. Such Chutiya IAS shud be canned publicly.. who the fuck is he to slap people....

DM has been punished earlier when he was caught abusing female Police cadets.
He was found to be rude and abusing to fellow Police force when he was IPS.
Many more such case will emerge once a inquiry is done on him.

 

[Peter]

I was the one who was peddling haplogroup argument long time ago.

Looks like it's back again.

Regardless in the future our labs should work on Virus *ahem I mean antidode for a disease affecting particular races and ethnicity.

This this.

Yahin to mein bol raha hun. Why East Asian countries are faring relatively better than so called western first world countries. All I want is a scientific enquiry. Bas. If we are to face the next pandemic the research would help.

 

[ezsasa]

I am not demenaing Modi and Shahs effort in any way.
My finger is pointing more towards the people below them in the health ministry.
HV thakur should have been more than capable of handling the medical crisis.
How many men do u think he has? He has the Experts, IAS, IES, scientists and everything under him he should be the one answerable to the media and people.
In a department having thousand of people how does adding PMO straighten out all the issue, it could only mean one thing: the department isn't efficient enough without the PMO?
A country of 1.3 billion should have the most dynamic Medical administration.

HV thakur took a more pro active part in the First wave than this one.
It is this reason why people trust only Modi and not BJP minister's.

correct, I think so too. Me thinks this is also the reason why coupta runs that campaign saying “modi is centralising power”. Coupta was worried, if ministries start talking to each other, they might solve more problems

But basically what PMO seems to be doing is having regular reviews and giving instructions to remove as many bottleneck as possible.

if you remember we used to have a lot of discussions on silos among govt departments, modi is ensuring that is not happening atleast at the top. Unfortunately for us rest of lower bureaucracy still seems to be in silos. Which clearly came out on record, by how Delhi govt handled this crisis in their city.

 

[SKC]

Diet plans and schedules like this are very generic and not universal and does not works on all people.
Everyone will behave differently on such diet.
Things are like these are being done by the Doctors on hit or miss trial basis to find some way to treat people in general.
Coronil helps to recover in Mild to moderate cases but still there is not scientific study done on mass scale.
Few of my relatives claims that they got better using coronil but that maybe due to them taking care of them in isolation and eating healthy.

 

[SKC]

Narendra Modi, Amit Shah directly involved in augmenting oxygen supply, Centre tells Supreme Court

Narendra Modi, Amit Shah directly involved in augmenting oxygen supply, Centre tells Supreme Court

An affidavit spanning over 200 pages said the Centre “is augmenting the oxygen supply on a war-footing, evolving and implementing innovative measures”.

www.thehindu.com

Does Baba think saying shit like this will make him seem like a hero?
If everything has to be done by PMO than why are other chuttad minister occupying offices.

The whole healthcare administration is useless.

same story at state level also. In UP Yogiji is working day night himself and handling and giving instructions but all other ministers have vanished from the scene. Only 4-5 prominent non minister BJP workers are working tirelessly in UP.
Local MP Mahesh Sharma is no where to be seen. He has 4 Kailash Hositals in the area and his hospitals alone can take care of Gautam Budh Nagar but only 1 of his hospital is taking in covid patients and 1 another is taking only mild patients

 

[spikey360]

That problem is not USA specific. My two acquaintance had similar fate last year.
One died because of lung failure and declared covid death. Even did not remove jewellary because of fear. RTPCR arrived second day with covid negative result. He had preexisting asthama and died due to that.
Second case, person already had heart issues. His heart stopped on hearing covid report. He was also categorized as covid death.

When you go to meet families ask them in detail, you will find many cases like that.

The second incident is really sad and ironical. He would perhaps been alive were it not for the ultrahype and fear mongering.

 

[prasadr14]

same story at state level also. In UP Yogiji is working day night himself and handling and giving instructions but all other ministers have vanished from the scene. Only 4-5 prominent non minister BJP workers are working tirelessly in UP.
Local MP Mahesh Sharma is no where to be seen. He has 4 Kailash Hositals in the area and his hospitals alone can take care of Gautam Budh Nagar but only 1 of his hospital is taking in covid patients and 1 another is taking only mild patients

Right time to 2 things.

Get rid of Babus completely, they have failed spectacularly.
It's not the politicians that needs to do these things handson. It's the babus, they are trained for this work and they were miserable at all levels.

Second one is push for Single elections. This is a golden excuse to hammer this home. Opposition may be against it but I bet the people of India would be by a large margin for it.

 

[Suryavanshi]

I was the one who was peddling haplogroup argument long time ago.

Looks like it's back again.

Regardless in the future our labs should work on Virus *ahem I mean antidode for a disease affecting particular races and ethnicity.

One more thing to notice our Tribal population even the ones in central India seems to have a lot of East Asian Input.

@asaffronladoftherisingsun

 

[SKC]

Right time to 2 things.

Get rid of Babus completely, they have failed spectacularly.
It's not the politicians that needs to do these things handson. It's the babus, they are trained for this work and they were miserable at all levels.

Second one is push for Single elections. This is a golden excuse to hammer this home. Opposition may be against it but I bet the people of India would be by a large margin for it.

Civil services needs to be get away with completely and replace with better system of current world scenarios.

Single Elections is not feasible in Indian. Maybe we can divide it into smaller packages. Bundle few states together and conduct election there in one go after gap of 2-3 months and do this process in next year of main LS elections.

 

[sajobajo]

Maharashtra will start adult (18-44) age group vaccination only after May. The health minister just said they wont be able to vaccinate anyone in May. Besht ShiEmm onlee.

 

[ezsasa]

BBC news reader just now twisted the news that Bharat biotech works for “Indian variant”, removed Bharat from Bharat biotech and said Pfizer biotech.

fact : Pfizer hasn’t even applied for testing in India.