Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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don’t believe anything at the moment, unless it has been peer reviewed.
Yes if there had been isolated outliners then I hadnt bothered much. But given there are multiple reports from science journals on other regions of world have also shown variable time estimates about the presence of antibodies after the infection . Heres couple of them -

Stable neutralizing antibody levels 6 months after mild and severe COVID-19 episodes .
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.11.22.389056v2

Dynamics of Neutralizing Antibody Titers in the Months After Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 Infection .

The Antibody Response to SARS-CoV-2 Infection.

Antibody persistence in the first 6 months following SARS-CoV-2 infection among hospital workers,
a prospective longitudinal study.

Longitudinal dynamics of the neutralizing antibody response to SARS-CoV-2 infection .
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32745196/

Stay safe people !!
 

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Bc people here act as if we are the only ones who are having 2nd wave . Just because our 1st wave was milder doesn't mean that our 2nd wave should be also milder . look at the below for other countries 2nd and 3rd wave

Japan 3rd wave is bigger than 2nd wave , So does US 3rd wave even after such large vaccination program running since January

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japan is now under 4th wave , :scared2:

each wave larger than previous

look at this graph for japan , everyone there masks , but only .8% vaccinated.

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our graph , and this is only 2nd one. this shit is only starting and will be never ending. :crutch:

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Coconut is indulging in victim blaming.
as if victims have no right to be upset and angry, while going thru bad times.

on one side American news papers are dancing around funeral pyres. on the other hand CNN is taking political pot shots live on air, by explicitly blaming modi in their international coverage sitting in Atlanta and Hong Kong.
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You're in crisis. A friend comes to help. You're upset with them. You expected them to be quicker. They shld hv been quicker.

But they're trying now & you still need the help. So is the best reaction to hurl insults at them?

If you say "yes," that says more about you than them.

 

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It was always being said that immunity from this covid-19 virus will last 6 months at max.
Corono virus family virus causes cough and cold and permanent immunity against it is not possible.
That also means that observation of pfizer is right. We will need vaccine every year if not every 6 months.
 

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That also means that observation of pfizer is right. We will need vaccine every year if not every 6 months.
Yes, last year only I said here that with time this virus will become like Flu virus which will need yearly flu like shots.
 

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japan is now under 4th wave , :scared2:

each wave larger than previous

look at this graph for japan , everyone there masks , but only .8% vaccinated.

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our graph , and this is only 2nd one. this shit is only starting and will be never ending. :crutch:

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Japan was surprisingly not doing anything in first wave. They did not do mass scale testing and they are not vaccinating. I am surprised by their response. Don't what kind of counter they have for this virus.
 

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Yes, last year only I said here that with time this virus will become like Flu virus which will need yearly flu like shots.
So, if you consider 10 USD dose, India is 10 billion USD per annum market for american pharma. Puts relentless demonisation of covaxin into perspective! At 10 USD global market will be around 60 billion USD per annum!
 

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Japan was surprisingly not doing anything in first wave. They did not do mass scale testing and they are not vaccinating. I am surprised by their response. Don't what kind of counter they have for this virus.
Have watched few videos of Tokyo streets. Almost everyone is wearing masks properly. May be that helped them.

 

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japan is now under 4th wave , :scared2:

each wave larger than previous

look at this graph for japan , everyone there masks , but only .8% vaccinated.

View attachment 86845

our graph , and this is only 2nd one. this shit is only starting and will be never ending. :crutch:

View attachment 86846
I dont think that we will face a bigger third wave. If you see who is getting infected this time in mumbai, according to a times of india article, only 10 percent of the victims are from slums, and most of the victims are from housing societies and apartments, who were spared in the first wave due to struct modi initiated lockdown.. So, although not as effective as vaccines, prior infection is providing some level of protection.. Also around 10 percent indians have already received atleast one dose of vaccine. So, by the time the third wave hits, we should be in a better position, both w.r.t vaccination, and antibodies and T-cell memory due to very high infection levels in the second wave, as our public does not mask up.
 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resource...b0acb3f?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

Vaccines alone will not stop Covid spreading - here's why
  • By Michelle Roberts and the BBC Visual Journalism Team
  • 12 April 2021
  • Health
Many of us are hoping vaccines against coronavirus will be our route out of lockdown, enabling us to reclaim our old lives. But scientists say jabs alone will not currently be enough and other measures are still needed.

Scroll down to find out why.

The Swiss cheese model
Illustration of a family and their options for reducing risk from coronavirus

The problem is that no single measure to prevent the spread of coronavirus is 100% effective, and that includes vaccines.
Illustration of a Swiss cheese sliced up

Take a look at this block of Swiss cheese with its characteristic holes, sliced into nine pieces. Each layer represents one of our defences against the virus.
Illustration of a Swiss cheese, with one slice highlighted

None of the slices is perfect. Each of them has holes - representing the measure's flaws - which allow the virus to find a way through.
Illustration of a Swiss cheese, with a few slices highlighted

Yet if there are several layers, the chance the virus will be stopped by one of them is increased.
Illustration of a Swiss cheese sliced up

Let's take a look at each cheese slice in turn.
Vaccines
Illustration of a Swiss cheese, with a slice highlighted, representing vaccines

Vaccines are widely regarded as the most powerful weapon in our Covid-19 armoury. Some are more than 90% effective and prevent people getting sick and dying with the disease.

But no vaccine is ever 100% and there is a chance we might catch the virus or pass it on even after our jab.
Testing
Illustration of a Swiss cheese, with a slice highlighted, representing testing

Widespread testing can find people carrying the virus who are unaware they have it.

But rapid turnaround, or lateral flow tests are imperfect and can miss some cases.
Tracing
Illustration of a Swiss cheese, with a slice highlighted, representing tracing

Contact tracing systems track down people who have been in close contact with a positive case, to advise them to isolate.

But such schemes need to be fast and reach between 80%-100% of contacts to work effectively.
Self-isolation
Illustration of a Swiss cheese, with a slice highlighted, representing self-isolation

Most countries advise people who suspect or know they have Covid to stay at home and avoid others. Some also require travellers to quarantine.

But some people do not follow this advice or are unable to do so.
Masks
Illustration of a Swiss cheese, with a slice highlighted, representing masks

Masks and face coverings can block virus droplets from coughs, sneezes and speaking. But even the highest-grade masks still let some virus through.

Masks also need to be worn correctly and used by enough people to make a difference.
Social distancing
Illustration of a Swiss cheese, with a slice highlighted, representing social distancing

Keeping 2m (6ft) away from someone reduces the chance of the virus passing on. But we can still catch it even from further away.
Socialising outdoors
Illustration of a Swiss cheese, with a slice highlighted, representing socialising outdoors

Fresh air cuts the risk of infection and the ultraviolet radiation from sunlight can destroy virus left on surfaces. But the risk outside is not reduced to zero.
Opening windows
Illustration of a Swiss cheese, with a slice highlighted, representing opening windows

The chance of catching the virus increases in areas that are poorly ventilated. The greater the airflow, the lower the risk, but the danger is still there.
Cleaning hands and surfaces
Illustration of a Swiss cheese, with a slice highlighted, representing good hygiene

Good hygiene can help stop the spread of the virus, but the risk from particles in the air remains.
What does all this mean for us?
Illustration of a Swiss cheese, with one slice highlighted, representing minimal protection

As we can see, no single slice of our Swiss cheese will guarantee 100% protection.
Illustration of a Swiss cheese, with a few slices highlighted, representing greater protection

It is only by using a number of slices - or measures - that we create the best chance of protecting ourselves and our friends and family.
Illustration of a Swiss cheese sliced up

Australian virologist Ian Mackay, the first to use the Swiss cheese model in relation to the pandemic, says, in reality, the cheese's holes will constantly open, shut and shift location depending on our behaviour.
Illustration of a family and their options for reducing risk from coronavirus

This is why he and other scientists say, even in places with widespread vaccine coverage, we need to continue using multiple measures to stop the Swiss cheese's holes aligning and letting the virus through.

Methodology

The "Swiss cheese respiratory pandemic defence model" was first created by Ian M Mackay, a virologist at the University of Queensland, Australia. The infographic has been translated into more than two dozen languages. It is based on a concept originated by James T Reason, a cognitive psychologist, now a professor emeritus at the University of Manchester, UK. It is used in scientific circles when discussing mitigating risk.
 

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That also means that observation of pfizer is right. We will need vaccine every year if not every 6 months.
This virus ll continue to take lives for a long time . Its no ebola . One strong mutation in some african country which has nt been vaccinated and the virus ll be all over the world again . They cooked some good product in wuhan lab . Bharat biotech is developing booster shot to prolong immunity .
 

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Karnataka govt announces 14-day lockdown, only essential services allowed

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Karnataka chief minister BS Yediyurappa said that the essential services will be allowed between 6am to 10am and shops will close after 10am. Shops which sell material associated with construction, manufacturing and agriculture will be allowed to operate. The chief minister also highlighted that the public transport services will also remain shut.

"Covid curfew will be implemented in the state from 9pm tomorrow onwards for the next 14 days. Essential services are allowed between 6-10 am and after 10am shops will remain closed. Shops dealing with construction, manufacturing and agricultural sectors are allowed to remain open. Public transport will not operate," Karnataka CM BS Yediyurappa said.

The announcement comes after Karnataka reported the highest single-day surge of 34,804 cases and 134 deaths on Sunday. Karnataka's caseload reached 13.49 lakh on Sunday while the death toll reached 14,426, according to data released by the state's health department. Sunday's surge is highest single-day surge reported in the state since the onset of the pandemic.

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I didn't expect this from Bhajipao CM
 

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Coconut is indulging in victim blaming.
as if victims have no right to be upset and angry, while going thru bad times.

on one side American news papers are dancing around funeral pyres. on the other hand CNN is taking political pot shots live on air, by explicitly blaming modi in their international coverage sitting in Atlanta and Hong Kong.
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You're in crisis. A friend comes to help. You're upset with them. You expected them to be quicker. They shld hv been quicker.

But they're trying now & you still need the help. So is the best reaction to hurl insults at them?

If you say "yes," that says more about you than them.

that’s why I labelled her brown sepoy. Blocked me instantly.
 

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So as per this statement muricans are funding for production capacity expansion for Hyderabad based Biological E pharma company . Good but 1 billion dose capacity by 2022 means they are planning to vaccinate everyone below 18 years also sooner .
Obviously, they plan to vaccinate everyone. Why miss out of the below 18 segments?

Flights band karo re first . stop all international flights right now . bollywood wokes are all gone to maldives , Who knows if anyone from SL travelled to maldives and spread the new variant . just stop these flights going out to maldives let these bhaiwood pigs die drowning in sea with sea level raising .
They will have to sooner rather than later. New variants that vaccines don't work against and even the RT-PCR test won't detect are popping all over the world.
 

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This virus ll continue to take lives for a long time . Its no ebola . One strong mutation in some african country which has nt been vaccinated and the virus ll be all over the world again . They cooked some good product in wuhan lab . Bharat biotech is developing booster shot to prolong immunity .
The Nasal Spray from SaNoTiZe will help to combat this a lot. Ths nasal spray is not vaccine but it is an add on.
One use of spray reduced the virus count in body by 95% and 2-3 shots reduces it by 99%.

Similarly the Nasal Variant from BB also seems not to be a vaccine but an add on.

These needs to be prioritize and brought to market quickly. This is reduce the chances of severe cases by a lot.
 

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that’s why I labelled her brown sepoy. Blocked me instantly.
why are people even responding to them. They are professionals hired to do this, in her case to steer the “foreign policy advisory on India” from a particular political ideology perspective.

these are not misguided scholars, they have been groomed and being paid to say exactly what they are saying.

with so much cancel culture prevalent in US, she won’t have her job if she does not tow the company line. In other words she won’t have her job if she was a truly independent thinker.

it’s time people understood this aspect of foreign policy scholars in US.
 

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Have watched few videos of Tokyo streets. Almost everyone is wearing masks properly. May be that helped them.

This will not save them in long term. You need to have some kind of vaccination eventually. They are already seeing 4th wave and each wave is getting bigger than last one.
 

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For those suffering from CoviD, kindly share this basic breathing technique that would massively reduce the risk of developing secondary pneumonia



Also, if you are suffering from mild CoviD and are intent on self medication or unable to access medical help, try Budesonide 400 mcg BD inhaled- it very well tolerated and there is evidence it shortens illness severity and duration.

 

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