Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

[ladder]

looks like bureaucratic failure at every level.

despite winning tender , no plants still functioning in kerala . that too after 7 months.

check tender given out in october here

http://www.cmss.gov.in/sites/default/files/Online%20Tender%20of%20SITC%20of%20PSA%20Oxygen%20Generation%20Plant%20at%20Public%20Health%20Facilities%20on%20PAN%20India%20Basis.pdf

plants for 8 hospitals in delhi , one of the largest is Safdarjung Hospital, New Delhi - total bed capacity is 3000.

the hospital is run by center.

checking the news , hospital still has no oxygen plant .

so who to blame here but center , not to mention state gov only managed to install plant at 1 hospital.

Both. Even if we admit that center was late in awarding the tender or that only three vendors were awarded to install, who might have deployed less number of technicians ( not verified) to install the plants.
The Print also reports that they ( technicians) faced difficulty at the hospitals as the hospitals created hindrance in committing land and utilities. Why? Supplying oxygen is a money making business and local vendors might have greased some palms. Installation of PSA O2 plant might deprive them of that extra income.
So, reason of delay may be various.

Also, how could the brightest minds of India, the IAS of India, couldn't figure out the real bottleneck will rather be distribution and not the generation of oxygen ( by diverting industrial oxygen)? I am yet to find any lead on the procurement of cryogenic trucks and oxygen cylinders from last year and early this year.

 

[sorcerer]

Recurrence of COVID in March could be due to lack of antibodies in seropositive people: CSIR survey

NEW DELHI: The recurrence of coronavirus outbreak in March could have been due to lack of "meaningful antibodies" in seropositive people after a peak in September last year, suggests a survey by the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR).


The CSIR conducted a sero-survey on 10,427 people comprising the staff members of its 40 laboratories, including contractual employees, and their family members from 17 states and two union territories.


In 10,427 people, the average sero positivity was 10.14 per cent.


The survey suggested that the neutralising antibodies declined significantly after five-six months, making people prone to reinfections.
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Thus, in combination with a strong emphasis on masking and distancing, new cases started declining soon after this sero-survey which started in June.

Recurrence of COVID in March could be due to lack of antibodies in seropositive people: CSIR survey

NEW DELHI: The recurrence of coronavirus outbreak in March could have been due to lack of "meaningful antibodies" in seropositive people after a peak

www.newindianexpress.com

 

[Maitreya Shyam]

 

[Kumata]

Both. Even if we admit that center was late in awarding the tender or that only three vendors were awarded to install, who might have deployed less number of technicians ( not verified) to install the plants.
The Print also reports that they ( technicians) faced difficulty at the hospitals as the hospitals created hindrance in committing land and utilities. Why? Supplying oxygen is a money making business and local vendors might have greased some palms. Installation of PSA O2 plant might deprive them of that extra income.
So, reason of delay may be various.

Also, how could the brightest minds of India, the IAS of India, couldn't figure out the real bottleneck will rather be distributed and not the generation of oxygen ( by diverting industrial oxygen)? I am yet to find any lead on the procurement of cryogenic trucks and oxygen cylinders from last year and early this year.

Another reason in delhi is lack of real estate . GIven the scarce nature, Hospitals would want to use the land for building a admission block which will generate revenue life long than a stupid oxygen tank...

 

[Kumata]

Govt should make a nice presentation on Money collected under PM cares and where it is spent. Also oxygen part and hire some proper agency for distribution without being annoying.

Else give they data to RW folks they will make good pictorial presentation for free or peanuts.

No, that will be playing into the hands of khangress & their cahoots. they are already licking their hand with the amount of money they can get their hands on...

Next demand would be to merge with stupidity going on since 50's with khnagress president as life time member...

List is endless...all they need is a opening..

 

[Skyh3ck]

All hospital must have oxygen production plant in their premises.

Government should make it compulsory.. all big hospital must have their own plant .. they have enough land and many are rich hospitals..

 

[Skyh3ck]

Another reason in delhi is lack of real estate . GIven the scarce nature, Hospitals would want to use the land for building a admission block which will generate revenue life long than a stupid oxygen tank...

Delhi has the richest hospital in India yet they do not have their oxygen plants.. only money making...

 

[Spindrift]

Member from Bengal, is this really happening?

 

[sorcerer]

All hospital must have oxygen production plant in their premises.

Government should make it compulsory.. all big hospital must have their own plant .. they have enough land and many are rich hospitals..

Well..I think people should also stop contributing to celebrity charity events and such where the majority of the money collected goes NOT into charity..but instead collect the amount and upgrade hospitals in their own area by donating the money to such.

 

[Skyh3ck]

This is hardest time. People should call their friend and relatives to comfort them.. and have positive attitude.. this time shall pass..

Just be positive..

 

[Skyh3ck]

Well..I think people should also stop contributing to celebrity charity events and such where the majority of the money collected goes NOT into charity..but instead collect the amount and upgrade hospitals in their own area by donating the money to such.

Man I really keep crying when I see the horrifying scene om TV.. Bhagwan please save

 

[shashankk]

 

[Skyh3ck]

Anyone here can enlighten us.. how an oxygen plant work.

How much money, space and maintanance required.

How many days it take to build one

How to use it that plant once all this is over.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

The usual twitter double standards.
Looks like twitter thinks their rules are above the rules of a nation.

Well since they are not being taken to task, then their assumption might be right too.

 

[shashankk]

This is hardest time. People should call their friend and relatives to comfort them.. and have positive attitude.. this time shall pass..

Just be positive..

I stopped watching new channel and am back to watching web series or listening to trance music when there is nothing to do.
Have 2 relatives on oxygen in NMC Patna, call them every day to check health status and try to be as positive as one can be in this situation.

 

[Kumata]

chutiya incompetency means delhi will remain locked for another week while neighbors are bussiness as usual...

Delhi govt extends lockdown for another week till Monday, confirms CM Kejriwal

He also announced that the Delhi government has started a portal that will be updated every two hours by oxygen manufacturers, suppliers and hospitals for better management of oxygen supply.

www.timesnownews.com

 

[shashankk]

chutiya incompetency means delhi will remain locked for another week while neighbors are bussiness as usual...

Delhi govt extends lockdown for another week till Monday, confirms CM Kejriwal

He also announced that the Delhi government has started a portal that will be updated every two hours by oxygen manufacturers, suppliers and hospitals for better management of oxygen supply.

www.timesnownews.com

Main to Delhi ke sabhi rishtedaron ko khulla gali deta hoon. Sab muh niche karke chup chap sunte hain pichle 4-5 salon se.

 

[Skyh3ck]

If a person had covid a year back.. then recover and had great health .. can he or she get it again.. and if they get .. can they recover without hospitalization..

Also how long the vaccine will be effective

 

[sorcerer]

IMO, post this pandemic there will be a reset on our health priorities. We know our infrastructure is not sufficient nor has the capacity to serve the population.
Let this be a template for a total overhaul on the national health policy and taming hospitals that doesn't even have the basic structure for functioning optimally.

well!! another policy change and we can expect the media to thwart it like another bill and opposition doing their mujra.

 

[Skyh3ck]