Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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Maharaj samudragupt

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Iam listening to radio kabul , fuckers are playing bollywood songs lol.
Bhajipao has no narrative control , god knows about 1986799567D chess
 

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Yeah number are fudged no doubt on dat but i m talking about new mutant plus eid next month...and even if porki media is not reporting on ground situation but if u follow Twitter den there is mild oxygen issue going in Porkistan so wid these new strain and festival situation may reach position where people will start collapsing on road..
Media blitz on Modi has its own cynical motives just like what they did to trump. Do you believe since Biden came the virus disappeared from USA.
With regards to Pakistan well if not for their nuclear status, no one pretty much cares what happens to them.
 

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Media blitz on Modi has its own cynical motives just like what they did to trump. Do you believe since Biden came the virus disappeared from USA.
With regards to Pakistan well if not for their nuclear status, no one pretty much cares what happens to them.
And it will fail, media will catch deshmukh soon.
Go karrona, mudi should not make mistake as orange did.
He should not go full name-calling, let him speak from high position.
 

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Switching Tactics: Why India Must Temporarily Prioritise First Doses Mid-Wave
  • In the middle of the current crisis, there is a low-risk, high-reward action that can significantly shorten the time span of the second wave.
India is currently in the midst of a major wave in Covid-19 cases driven by the ‘double mutant’ B.1.618 strain, data for which was submitted to GISAID. Data from covid19india.org shows that the wave is slowing, but the peak is likely potentially a few weeks away.
While active cases in Maharashtra and Chattisgarh, the states with the majority of cases early on, have started to peak, but others like West Bengal, Punjab, Karnataka and a few others continue to show active case growth.
Stopping the wave is the highest priority of the government. This article makes two recommendations that can immediately make a difference:
1. Immediately pause 2nd dose administrations for a period of one to three weeks, pivot to first dose administrations.
2. In high risk clusters, enable everyone to receive a first dose right away, not starting in May.
Rationale
Our approach so far has been tailored to a situation where conditions were manageable and the vaccination process could be done in a planned two-dose manner. This was fine from January to March.
Right now we’re in the middle of a wave that has not peaked. Hospitals are filling up, people are dying and case counts keep rising. High-impact, immediately executable actions matter. Case in point:
By the third week of March, 60 per cent of Israel’s population had at least one Covid-19 vaccination. Even before that - in mid March - Israel reported massive drops in test positivity rate (TPR) and transmissions, despite being weeks away from fully vaccinating its small population of 9 million, which is about that of Bengaluru.
Both Israel and the UK, which have high vaccination coverage of their population, reported significant drops in transmission and TPR numbers as they hit the point of 40-50 per cent of population having received at least one shot.
The Indian Situation: Pivoting to Maximising First Doses
Let us look at where India is today. India has around 320 million people aged 45 and over, who constitute the high-risk population being vaccinated. As of today, 117 million (36 per cent) of them have received at least one dose of vaccine. At the main onset of this wave at the start of April only 58 million had received at least one dose.
This is a very good progress so far, but it brings with it a major risk - starting May, millions who received first doses four-six weeks ago become eligible for a second dose.
This can be termed the second dose crowding out effect. It can be explained simply: our daily total vaccine doses are around 2.5-4 million doses, up from 1.5 million a day in March. Calculations indicate that by mid May, 80 per cent of currently available daily doses will be 2nd dose, based on current priority.
This means that the number of people with at least one vaccination will increase to 130 million by end of April. If we immediately stall second doses, we’ll have 135 million people with at least one dose by end of April by maintaining the current rate of vaccination.
Switching Tactics: Why India Must Temporarily Prioritise First Doses Mid-Wave


However, the numbers will stall there, rising to only 142 million by mid May, since most doses will be consumed by second dose requirements.
This is a problem in the middle of a wave. As the Israeli data shows, we need the most number of high risk people with at least one dose as we can achieve. Each vaccinated person is far less capable of spreading further. If they get Covid, they’ll almost certainly recover quickly, as many celebrities who recently had their first doses and got Covid did.
What happens if India completely suspends 2nd dose administrations for up to three weeks and only vaccinates people needing first doses ? How about if we receive - let’s say 20 million doses of - Sputnik V and also use them for first doses. Here are the projections:
Switching Tactics: Why India Must Temporarily Prioritise First Doses Mid-Wave


In other words, we can rapidly increase at least a one-dose coverage of our high risk population past 50 per cent within three weeks if we pause second dose administrations. It could reach 60 per cent if additional vaccines are available.
Focusing On Clusters
A temporary focus on only first doses can make an enormous difference in transmission rate, especially if vaccinations target clusters. The CoWin registration setup lets the government focus on targeting vaccines to the most high-prevalence districts, where it can further accelerate mitigation efforts by opening eligibility to all.
Covid-19 is lethal because it spreads rapidly, and in a very short time generates too many patients who simultaneously need care. Those who might normally be saved end up perishing because there were no resources in the middle of a wave.
However, by a single vaccination, not only is the risk of severe illness with need for hospitalisation completely eliminated , but those who get Covid - the vaccine does not prevent it but just drastically improves outcomes - become very poor transmitters.
While long term immunogenic response research is ongoing, early data indicates that vaccines result in enough antibody generation within days that people who get Covid soon after; Yogi Adityanath got vaccinated on 5 April and tested positive on 14th, indicating infection days before.
Recently released data from ICMR indicates extremely low ‘breakthrough’ case rates even after first dose - on par with those who have two doses:
Switching Tactics: Why India Must Temporarily Prioritise First Doses Mid-Wave


Both Covaxin and Covishield have near identical - and negligible - risk of positive results after both one and two doses. This suggests that under current real world conditions, both vaccines are generating strong immunogenic responses in the Indian population to the currently prevalent variants.
Given the nature of the current situation, a pivot to maximising first doses is critically helpful, especially combined with vaccination of all people in concentrated case clusters. Within days of such targeted actions, it would be possible to see the result of a significant number of transmission chain links broken, causing the wave to abate far quicker than otherwise.
Once it abates, the government can resume regular prioritisation of second doses.
Crucially, none of the recommendations here take time to execute. Production does not need to scale up. We don’t have to wait until late summer when wide swathes of the population will have been immunized.
In the middle of the current crisis, there are few low-risk, high-reward actions with potentially immediate gains, and these recommendations are worth considering.
 

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Are bismuth subsalicylate/ranitidine bismuth citrate available over the counter in India? I have come across papers that show that bismuth complexes (ranitidine bismuth citrate) inhibited the SARS coronavirus and bismuth subsalicylate led to improvement in a Covid-19 patient:
Bismuth compounds should be investigated against Covid, and bismuth subsalicylate should be recommended for Covid patients, especially those with upset stomach, as it is available over the counter for upset stomach in other countries and thus fairly harmless (except for people allergic to aspirin, as salicylate is similar to aspirin).
 
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he is not at par, he said so himself.. he is making a small margin at 150.. and why the fuck should he make more in the middle of a pandemic especially when he didnt really invent/spend R&D to develop. you seem quite eager for him to profit off your fellow countrymen's distress
Those who can afford will pay for it. Even now I see rich assholes standing infront of govt hospitals for free vaccines. I am not rich or even higher middle-class but I can afford it and I am willing to pay for it. Even if it's a small gesture , I don't want to burden my government. It's the captilists who are giving a helping hand not leftists. So I wouldn't mind a capilist making money. So my Country men who can afford to pay 200 rs for a popcorn can also afford to pay 600rs for a vaccine. Poonawala to is my country man.
 

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And it will fail, media will catch deshmukh soon.
Go karrona, mudi should not make mistake as orange did.
He should not go full name-calling, let him speak from high position.
People are being sold "facts" by vested interest who ultimately want Modi to go. In few days,you should see similar international coverage do discredit central govt like they are doing for Brazil president Bolsarano and ex US president Trump.

But among all this one good thing came out, India can see the actions of US to withhold raw materials for vaccine production. I think it should calm the nerves of over zealous thinkers who thought US can be trusted as a premiere partner.

Btw does anyone know what raw materials we have to import from US for vaccine?
 

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Those who can afford will pay for it. Even now I see rich assholes standing infront of govt hospitals for free vaccines. I am not rich or even higher middle-class but I can afford it and I am willing to pay for it. Even if it's a small gesture , I don't want to burden my government. It's the captilists who are giving a helping hand not leftists. So I wouldn't mind a capilist making money. So my Country men who can afford to pay 200 rs for a popcorn can also afford to pay 600rs for a vaccine. Poonawala to is my country man.
you might want to figure out how many of your countrymen can buy popcorn for 200rs. just a quick BPL percentage multiplied by 1.3bn will give you that scale.. and then preach
 

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you might want to figure out how many of your countrymen can buy popcorn for 200rs. just a quick BPL percentage multiplied by 1.3bn will give you that scale.. and then preach
BPL data is from 2011 and there was so much corruption in that itself there are many rich guys who hold BPL cards that you will be surprised of the scale, so I don't think your anology is correct there and FYI the vaccine wilo be free for government hospitalsand we are talking about private hospitals here
 

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you might want to figure out how many of your countrymen can buy popcorn for 200rs. just a quick BPL percentage multiplied by 1.3bn will give you that scale.. and then preach
The price of SII vaccine is low for the agencies who have 'invested under risk' in the vaccine when there was no concrete evidence how the trials would result.

Due to such investment, the pricing of each does were discounted for, in proportion of their investment.

That's how SII made a sliver of a profit at providing each does at rs. 150 to GoI.
Take out that ' investment under risk' component and SII can't provide at Rs. 150.

Once the contracted doses against the investment by GoI is over ( 300 million approx.). The pricing for GoI also would be rs. 400. But as GoI has already made another investment of rs. 3000 crores for SII, the price of each dose will again be discounted to adjust the investment.

State Govt. who haven't invested any amount in SII can't get the vaccine at G.o.I pricing.

Similarly, private hospitals too wouldn't get any discounts.

It is good that SII is reining in its profit margin for state govt. and hasn't priced the vaccine similar for state govt and private agencies.

Is the price final? No. State govt can negotiate. Also G.o.I can negotiate on behalf of states. Drug regulator can exercise its powers.

And yes, G.o.I hasn't forgotten it's commitment towards BPL families. But then they have to wait for their turns. 60+ and 45+ of BPL families are currently being injected for free along with all others in the same age group.
 

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Do you really believe the official figure of Pakistan or Bangladesh?

If cases in both the above countries are 6000 and 4000 approx. respectively then why has UK bracketed them along with India on travel ban?

They are having a bad situation but aren't admitting. Neither will they ever admit oxygen shortages. Not now, not in future.
I day left
 

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you might want to figure out how many of your countrymen can buy popcorn for 200rs. just a quick BPL percentage multiplied by 1.3bn will give you that scale.. and then preach
For those who cannot afford, respective State governments and centre will provide them for free or for a very less price. Marked up prices are only for private hospitals and nobody is forcing you to go for higher price. If you cannot afford or one of those freebie vultures who can afford but still don't want to shell some money, can wait for few more days and get a highly subsidised one.
 
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Do you really believe the official figure of Pakistan or Bangladesh?

If cases in both the above countries are 6000 and 4000 approx. respectively then why has UK bracketed them along with India on travel ban?

They are having a bad situation but aren't admitting. Neither will they ever admit oxygen shortages. Not now, not in future.
 

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Getting sick of seeing people begging for help on white people’s news channels. Whitehouse spokesman’s official statement the other day is exactly what they think. Their country first, everybody else next. These idiots are doing nothing but satisfying the egos of these people.

Even US and Britain went thru this phase last year, their media never allowed displayed any visuals of people begging on air. They also didn’t allow unrestricted access of news cameras into their hospital ICU’s.

and also they are mentioning slow pace of vaccination, but not one is mentioning around 23-25 lakh vaccinations are happening everyday.
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Getting sick of seeing people begging for help on white people’s news channels. Whitehouse spokesman’s official statement the other day is exactly what they think. Their country first, everybody else next. These idiots are doing nothing but satisfying the egos of these people.

Even US and Britain went thru this phase last year, their media never allowed displayed any visuals of people begging on air. They also didn’t allow unrestricted access of news cameras into their hospital ICU’s.

and also they are mentioning slow pace of vaccination, but not one is mentioning around 23-25 lakh vaccinations are happening everyday.
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The most important is no of active cases.

We have active cases sustained at 2.6 million. US itself has active cases at 6 million. Our peak active cases are projected at 3.5 million by Mid May when this wave will start tappering of. MH and CG have already peaked out. South India will be the last to peak out by June.

Believe me we are damm good on the per capita front compared with US or Brazil. Always compare per capita. Absolute numbers is very misleading and only good for media suffering porn.

When US added 3L cases at its peak, the active cases used to go up by 3L. When India adds 3.5L cases it only goes up by 1.5L due to constant recoveries. No wonder we have the best recovery ratio among all top infected nations.
 

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I pledge today.. I am not going to even apply for a green card. There is saying in Telugu which means that a dog's tail is always bent. That's what this country is.

Please suggest some ideas of how NRIs can support our motherland in these times, other than remittances.
 

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Getting sick of seeing people begging for help on white people’s news channels. Whitehouse spokesman’s official statement the other day is exactly what they think. Their country first, everybody else next. These idiots are doing nothing but satisfying the egos of these people.

Even US and Britain went thru this phase last year, their media never allowed displayed any visuals of people begging on air. They also didn’t allow unrestricted access of news cameras into their hospital ICU’s.

and also they are mentioning slow pace of vaccination, but not one is mentioning around 23-25 lakh vaccinations are happening everyday.
I don't think we are slow in vaccination. Of the 54 crore people in the world who got vaccinated, 11 crore are in India.
With Sputnik V roping in more vaccine manufacturers, the pace should only increase. Till then, people should fanatically follow distancing.
My respects to corporates who are getting all their employees vaccinated.
 

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