Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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Blue Water Navy

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Can't help but have a bad feeling about this. India creeping up the worldometers chart slowly but steadily, 1000s of cutlets all set to throw law to the winds soon, and daily jumps showing no signs of abating a month into lockdown. And conditions not looking so rosy for the salaried class, especially the manufacturing and blue collar segments. Richer countries will find ways, but god help us if the First World reality lands on our shores..

India's new Covid-19 cases jump by 1,752, highest ever 24-hour spike

For the middle class and lower class things will not look rosy. They will look foggy more & more as time will pass in this lockdown. LD will only increase misery.
 

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Recovery rate 22.27% today.

This ramzan stuff has to stop if we want to halt the virus.
 

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For the middle class and lower class things will not look rosy. They will look foggy more & more as time will pass in this lockdown. LD will only increase misery.
I personally know people who have had to sign away their earned leaves in exchange for no salary cut this month, and are now bracing themselves for a definite salary cut next month and worse if the lockdown goes beyond May. This from the manufacturing heartlands where things show no signs of stabilizing. Its easy to come here and type away a few words, but an entire world away when reality bites our ass badly and family burden needs to be shouldered.

Its an open secret that industry doesn't give a rat's ass to what the gormint has said about there being no layoffs or salary cut during this lockdown. Its well known what actually goes on the ground without things coming out in the open.
 

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I personally know people who have had to sign away their earned leaves in exchange for no salary cut this month, and are now bracing themselves for a definite salary cut next month and worse if the lockdown goes beyond May. This from the manufacturing heartlands where things show no signs of stabilizing. Its easy to come here and type away a few words, but an entire world away when reality bites our ass badly and family burden needs to be shouldered.
Bussiness are doing what they do best... extract more blood out.. my BIL was advised they get no salary for next 3 months.. if they wish, they can resign or work for free... and they will review after 3 months.. no gurantee that he will get salary or not.. He works for logistics unit of top auto manufacturer ...

Catch - they can help him with 1 Lakh interest laden loan to manage his expenses... I wonder if they cannot pay salaries, from where they are giving these 1 Lakh.. it's pure bussiness for them.. since money is sitting idle.. loan it on interest to cornered employees......

Infy have already announced.. all stop .. govt have said that they are holding DA and allownace.. so its free run for everyone onwards...


I have always maintained that modi have failed misrably in protecting salaried middle class.. he is just milking them endlessly.... and giving all sops to industry....

Rant over...
 

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People here (including me) call about reforms, law and order, nudge, disruptions and discipline but it seems these all are punishments for Hindus.
Gandhi, Ambedkar, Patel even Nehru knew the traits of this breed but still kept them in India.
Since Hindu Pakistan theory has been killed seeing how Hindus has responded to this Pandamic.
Hindus must now decide the future of this nation with or without muslims.
The majority must take the control and use resources to incentivise ghar wapsi and designe heavy handed instruments to make it fool proof.
Or let the public decide on streets.
Enough is Enough.
What kind of F country it is?
I can feel that painful sense of despondency and disillusionment in your post that many of we Indian must be undergoing.

I see that as a natural pause in our long and sustained journey towards our nation building and a rethink on the path / strategy adopted towards that around 1947 and its aftermath,

The central issue of human existance as always remains - who rules India and how? Whether manipulative, appeasers, divisive, and anti majority, psudo secular English cultured artificial created and imposed Left Libart elites shall continue to rule the roost or the dynamics of democracy is able to generate and bring forward a different breed of elites with a different culture , aspirations and goals ?

The present situation is a morphed reaction of various actors in the play. No one looses power and influence easily and without involving in a loosing fight.

I for one am very optimistic about the great churn of the great Indian ocean that will certainly produce ambrosis for the nation. It has always happened and it will happen.

Pōtono obhyudhōyo bondhuro pōntha,
Jugo jugo dhabito jatri.
He chirošarothi, tōbo rōthochokre
Mukhoritho pōtho dinoratri.
Daruno biplōbo majhe,
Tōbo shōnkhodhoni baje
Šōnkoṯo duːkho trata.
Jōno gōno pōthoporichayōko jōyo he
Bharōto bhagyo bidhata!
Jōyo he, jōyo he, jōyo he, jōyo jōyo jōyo jōyo he.



पतन-अभ्युदय-बन्धुर-पंथा
युगयुग धावित यात्री,
हे चिर-सारथी,
तव रथचक्रे मुखरित पथ दिन-रात्रि
दारुण विप्लव-माझे
तव शंखध्वनि बाजे,
संकट-दुख-त्राता,
जन-गण-पथ-परिचायक जय हे
भारत-भाग्य-विधाता,
जय हे, जय हे, जय हे,
जय जय जय जय हे
 

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I personally know people who have had to sign away their earned leaves in exchange for no salary cut this month, and are now bracing themselves for a definite salary cut next month and worse if the lockdown goes beyond May. This from the manufacturing heartlands where things show no signs of stabilizing. Its easy to come here and type away a few words, but an entire world away when reality bites our ass badly and family burden needs to be shouldered.

Its an open secret that industry doesn't give a rat's ass to what the gormint has said about there being no layoffs or salary cut during this lockdown. Its well known what actually goes on the ground without things coming out in the open.
Well remember my post to you when you asked on March 25!!

Anyway, have hope man!! Pray to God!! I will say this probably LD will be lifted in the most parts of the country except the hotspots, after May3. And lets what happens, how our gormit moves forward towards this. Probably hotspot less areas will also be open but partially.
 

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I can feel that painful sense of despondency and disillusionment in your post that many of we Indian must be undergoing.

I see that as a natural pause in our long and sustained journey towards our nation building and a rethink on the path / strategy adopted towards that around 1947 and its aftermath,

The central issue of human existance as always remains - who rules India and how? Whether manipulative, appeasers, divisive, and anti majority, psudo secular English cultured artificial created and imposed Left Libart elites shall continue to rule the roost or the dynamics of democracy is able to generate and bring forward a different breed of elites with a different culture , aspirations and goals ?

The present situation is a morphed reaction of various actors in the play. No one looses power and influence easily and without involving in a loosing fight.

I for one am very optimistic about the great churn of the great Indian ocean that will certainly produce ambrosis for the nation. It has always happened and it will happen.

Pōtono obhyudhōyo bondhuro pōntha,
Jugo jugo dhabito jatri.
He chirošarothi, tōbo rōthochokre
Mukhoritho pōtho dinoratri.
Daruno biplōbo majhe,
Tōbo shōnkhodhoni baje
Šōnkoṯo duːkho trata.
Jōno gōno pōthoporichayōko jōyo he
Bharōto bhagyo bidhata!
Jōyo he, jōyo he, jōyo he, jōyo jōyo jōyo jōyo he.



पतन-अभ्युदय-बन्धुर-पंथा
युगयुग धावित यात्री,
हे चिर-सारथी,
तव रथचक्रे मुखरित पथ दिन-रात्रि
दारुण विप्लव-माझे
तव शंखध्वनि बाजे,
संकट-दुख-त्राता,
जन-गण-पथ-परिचायक जय हे
भारत-भाग्य-विधाता,
जय हे, जय हे, जय हे,
जय जय जय जय हे
apologies but current dispensation is after sikularism... so what u wrote might not happen ever...
 

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Well remember my post to you when you asked on March 25!!

Anyway, have hope man!! Pray to God!! I will say this probably LD will be lifted in the most parts of the country except the hotspots, after May3. And lets what happens, how our gormit moves forward towards this. Probably hotspot less areas will also be open but partially.
Again you are under wrong impression. the way it is jumping by 1000+ cases daily, I fear the green districts too will join the race if lockdown is lifted...there is no way out of this mess in near term untill we have aproven treatment and vaccination... US is adding 3k deaths and 20-30K infections daily .. hell we cannot afford 1 Lakh ...
 

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apologies but current dispensation is after sikularism... so what u wrote might not happen ever...
To my understanding, the current dispensation is after false, pseudo and politically motivated secularism that stresses on inclusion of a chosen few and one particular religion rather than exclusion of religion as a factor in governance and politics.

That is what true Secularism is. Do tell me that country in the world that functions on professing and being anti majority religionists.
 

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Again you are under wrong impression. the way it is jumping by 1000+ cases daily, I fear the green districts too will join the race if lockdown is lifted...there is no way out of this mess in near term untill we have aproven treatment and vaccination... US is adding 3k deaths and 20-30K infections daily .. hell we cannot afford 1 Lakh ...
The cases are rising because door to door tests are going on. In Mumbai, Ahmadabad health workers are going to every house in the hotspots and even in the cluster zones to take samples. Even in our Bengal today 53 cases were reported, I mean seriously can be believe it with Didi Govt.
 

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So, today till now 1395 new cases and 445 recovered cases. Correct me if I am wrong since Sunday or so the number of recovered cases are more than 300 everyday!!!
 

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Australia backs India’s call for WHO reform post Covid-19 crisis, says envoy-designate

O’Farrell acknowledged Covid-19-related lockdowns and travel restrictions across the region had impacted the repatriation of Australian citizens stranded in India, but said more than 2,000 of them had already been flown back on five flights, and more would return on four flights next week.


Updated: Apr 24, 2020 20:11 IST
By Rezaul H Laskar
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Australia, Barry O’Farrell said, has been a long-standing supporter of India “taking a leadership role in the multilateral system, including as a permanent member of the UN Security Council”.(HT Photo/ Sourced)

Australia supports India’s call for the reform of the World Health Organization (WHO) once the world has overcome the Coronavirus crisis as part of efforts to shape the post Covid-19 global order, Australian high commissioner-designate Barry O’Farrell said on Friday.

O’Farrell acknowledged Covid-19-related lockdowns and travel restrictions across the region had impacted the repatriation of Australian citizens stranded in India, but said more than 2,000 of them had already been flown back on five flights, and more would return on four flights next week.

In an interview with Hindustan Times, he also spoke of the measures put in place by Australian authorities to help the hundreds of thousands of Indians stranded in that country, especially students who have been provided an emergency grant of Australian $500 each (about Rs 25,000).

“There have been regular discussions about how best we can shape the post-Covid world order. For instance, Prime Minister [Narendra] Modi’s call at the G20 for reform of the WHO, which is something that our government has also been supportive of,” said O’Farrell, who has so far been unable to present his credentials because of the pandemic.

“The Australian government has talked about the need to have an independent review of the way that the [WHO] has handled this pandemic, but only once the worst of Covid has passed. We think that could be a natural area of future collaboration between the two governments.”

During a virtual meeting of G20 leaders on March 26, Modi had called for the reform of inter-governmental organisations such as WHO, saying they were based on the last century’s model and haven’t adapted to deal with new challenges.

Australia, O’Farrell said, has been a long-standing supporter of India “taking a leadership role in the multilateral system, including as a permanent member of the UN Security Council”. He added: “Our belief is that stepping up in that way will also be critically important in the post-Covid world.”

Of the 6,500 Australian nationals who registered with the high commission here, more than 2,000 returned in five flights so far and more will be repatriated by four flights next week, O’Farrell said. The evacuation has been complicated by travel restrictions in places such as Singapore, via which flights have to transit.

“Has it been easy? No. The people here at the high commission have been working flat out exploring options and…not every company that we’ve approached was either able or willing to provide services,” he said.

While praising the “incredible assistance” from the Central and state governments, the Directorate General of Civil Aviation and police forces for facilitating the movement of Australian citizens, O’Farrell said not everyone who had registered intended to leave India.

“It’s clear to me…that India’s policy settings have averted some of the alarmist predictions and projections made back in February-March,” he said, adding such factors were influencing decisions by Australian citizens whether to return or stay on in India.

O’Farrell said he is in close contact with India’s envoy in Canberra, A Gitesh Sarma, to ensure the welfare of Indians stranded in Australia. The Australian government and universities have announced measures to support Indian students, “who are our friends, colleagues, classmates and temporary members of the Australian community to ensure they have the support needed to get through this difficult time”, he said.

The Australian federal government put Australian $100 million into the university sector, which in turn put “almost as much into funds and food banks for assisting international students”, he said. This included an emergency grant of Australian $500, fee reductions and food pantries for students, he added.

There are about 600,000 Indians, including some 90,000 students, currently in Australia and as with stranded citizens in other parts of the world, they have been asked to “stay put” in view of travel restrictions, people familiar with developments said.

Modi and his Australian counterpart Scott Morrison, who spoke on phone on April 6, have scheduled a “virtual summit” very soon and the foreign ministers and foreign secretaries of the two sides are also in touch on cooperating in the fight against Covid-19.

“We’ve also noted India’s generosity in providing free medical supplies to its friends in need, not just in the immediate region but also in relation to Australia.

We look forward to further positive support from India on our request for PPE (personal protective equipment) and other key medical supplies,” O’Farrell said, adding Australia too had recently sought hydroxychloroquine from India.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...y-designate/story-0pEM6lTjG4xVeKDkOEy4TM.html
 

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To my understanding, the current dispensation is after false, pseudo and politically motivated secularism that stresses on inclusion of a chosen few and one particular religion rather than exclusion of religion as a factor in governance and politics.

That is what true Secularism is. Do tell me that country in the world that functions on professing and being anti majority religionists.
Would be OT For this thread but since you askec..


Your understanding is being lop sided IMO. None of their actions so far have treated all as equal. They have continued to toe the lines of previous govt and all welfare schemes have been as it is. Hell it took them freaking shaking legs to stop the haj subsidy ..such is compulsion that money saved was diverted to " welfare of muslim girls ". are not hindu girls important to them... Madrassa teachers are paid from tax payers money while hindu temples are just to donate all their money in times of disaster.. why dont govt controls the minority worship places... none of this have ended.. so where is govt after false pseudo politically motivated secularism...

You don't profess publicly few things . .. majority of govts in india were anti majority and modi while trying to maintain balance but is forced to toe similiar line as earlier govt... shows how strong the so called minotiry ecos sytem is that its proving to be a force for majority by few miles..
 

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Six coronavirus vaccines in human trials bring hope of early success

Covid-19 update: The trial will study whether the new vaccine is safe and can generate strong immune responses against Sars-Cov-2, the virus that causes the coronavirus disease (Covid-19), and protect healthy people from infection.


Updated: Apr 24, 2020 20:56 IST
By Sanchita Sharma
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Covid-19: Screen grab taken from video issued by Britain's Oxford University, showing microbiologist Elisa Granato, being injected as part of the first human trials in the UK for a potential coronavirus vaccine, untaken by Oxford University, England, Thursday April 23, 2020.(AP)

Human safety trials of a coronavirus vaccine developed by Oxford University began on Thursday even as Indian company Serum Institute of India started work on making the vaccine locally so as to be ready in case the trial succeeds.

The trial began in Oxford on Thursday, with the first two of 800 healthy volunteers recruited for the study being injected with a new vaccine, ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 . This is the sixth coronavirus vaccine to enter the first phase of clinical trials, raising hopes of an antidote against the virus that continues to ravage the world.

If the trials are a success, scientists hope to have one million doses ready by September, and to dramatically scale up manufacturing after that.

Pune-based Serum Institute of India (SII) has partnered with the Oxford University to manufacture the vaccine in India even as the trial starts. “SII plans to begin manufacturing the ChAdOx1 vaccine in anticipation of the clinical trials in the UK succeeding by September/October. SII will initiate the manufacture at its own risk to jump-start manufacturing and have enough doses available, if the clinical trials work,” said SII CEO Adar Poonawalla.

The trial will study whether the new vaccine is safe and can generate strong immune responses against Sars-Cov-2, the virus that causes the coronavirus disease (Covid-19), and protect healthy people from infection.

The vaccine is made from a weakened version of a common cold adenovirus taken from chimps and genetically modified to make it impossible for it to infect humans.

To develop the vaccine, researchers added genetic material to ChAdOx1 from the Sars-CoV-2 virus’ surface protein, spike glycoprotein (S), which helps the virus to bind to Ace2 receptors to enter human cells and cause an infection.

“This type of vaccine uses recombinant technology where you insert a gene for an important protein of the virus you want to build immunity to, into a weak virus that can safely infect human beings. Here it is the spike protein of Sars-CoV-2 by which it enters cells, into a weak adenovirus. The expectation is that the weak recombinant adenovirus infection will cause antibody development against Sars-CoV-2 spike protein, thereby creating immunity,” said Dr Anurag Agrawal, director, Council of Scientific and Industrial Research-Institute of Genomics and Integrative Biology.

“The ChAdOx1 vaccine uses a modified adenovirus carrying the coronavirus spike protein like a Trojan horse to enter human cells. The cells start making and releasing spike proteins, and, bingo, the immune system responds,” said Dr T Jacob John, professor emeritus and former head of virology at Christian Medical College, Vellore, Tamil Nadu.

The vaccine is safe and well tolerated, but some people may report mild and temporary side effects such as a sore arm at the injection site, headaches or fevers in the first couple of days after vaccination, said researchers. In the study, half of the healthy volunteers, between 18 and 55 years old, will receive the Covid-19 vaccine, and half a control vaccine, which protects against meningitis but not Covid-19.

“By vaccinating with ChAdOx1 nCoV-19, we are hoping to make the body recognise and develop an immune response to the spike protein that will help stop the Sars-CoV-2 virus from entering human cells and, therefore, prevent infection,” said researchers led by Prof Andrew Pollard, director of the Oxford Vaccine Group.

Sarah Gilbert, professor of vaccinology at the Oxford University, told The Times last week that she was “80% confident” that the vaccine being developed by her team would work.

“I think there’s a high chance that it will work based on other things that we have done with this type of vaccine. It’s not just a hunch and as every week goes by we have more data to look at,” she said.

The ChAdOx1 vaccine platform has been used to produce vaccine candidates against many viruses, including those causing influenza, chikungunya, and zika. The Oxford group has used it to develop a vaccine against Middle-East Respiratory Syndrome (Mers) coronavirus, which showed promising results in clinical trials.

“Vaccines based on viral vectors offer a high level of protein expression, have long-term stability, and induce strong immune responses in humans, which make them highly effective,” said Dr NK Ganguly, former director general, Indian Council of Medical Research.

Vaccine development against Covid-19 has progressed at an unprecedented pace and scale, with 78 projects reaching the active stage of development since China shared the genetic sequence of Sars-CoV-2 with the World Health Organization on January 12, 2020, according to the Coalition of Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (Cepi), one of the world’s biggest public funders of vaccine development.

Like the Oxford Vaccine Group, most developers are leveraging existing work on vaccines against Mers and rapid response platforms with 2019-nCoV genetic sequences inserted to speed up vaccine development. The research focus is on platforms based on nucleotides, which are the building blocks of genetic material, DNA and RNA, because of their potential for speed and flexibility for antigen manipulation.

“The Oxford vaccine will be the third CEPI-funded vaccine to enter into phase 1 trials, along with Inovio’s INO-4800 DNA vaccine candidate and Moderna’s mRNA-1273 candidate... Producing a safe, effective, and globally accessible vaccine is our best hope in ending this pandemic. We aim to do this at a speed never before seen in vaccine development,” said Dr Richard Hatchett, chief executive officer, Cepi, in a statement.

Cepi has initiated eight Covid-19 vaccine development projects with Curevac, Inovio Pharmaceuticals, Moderna, Novavax, University of Hong Kong, University of Queensland, and a consortium led by Institut Pasteur, with a goal of having at least three vaccine candidates submitted to regulatory authorities for licensure for general use.

“If an international vaccine trial is successful, its emergency use can be sanctioned globally. If a vaccine trial is well designed and successful anywhere in the world, it can be used as the virus is the same. Some other countries are more suitable for efficacy trials, but no regular trial approval is needed in India following emergency use approval,” said Dr Ganguly.

Vaccine development, on an average, takes 10.71 years from the preclinical phase, and has a market entry probability of 6%, according to a study in PLOS One, a peer reviewed scientific journal.

Adaptive and parallel vaccine development phases, innovative regulatory processes, and advanced scale up manufacturing capacity have helped fast-track development, which traditionally takes an average of a decade. Even accelerated efforts, such as that for the first Ebola vaccine, took five years.

“Our goal is a vaccine before 18 months. Normally, it takes about a decade to develop a vaccine, but global partnerships (between health agencies, academics, donors, industries, nations and philanthropies) have helped hasten development of vaccines against emerging public health threats. A vaccine against Ebola took five years, the one against zika took less than two years. The global effort to develop a Covid-19 vaccine in less than 18 months is unprecedented and would be an amazing achievement,” Dr Soumya Swaminathan, chief scientist, World Health Organization, told HT on the phone from Geneva.

The Oxford scientists are hoping to cut even that optimistic estimate by two-thirds.

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Would be OT For this thread but since you askec..


Your understanding is being lop sided IMO. None of their actions so far have treated all as equal. They have continued to toe the lines of previous govt and all welfare schemes have been as it is. Hell it took them freaking shaking legs to stop the haj subsidy ..such is compulsion that money saved was diverted to " welfare of muslim girls ". are not hindu girls important to them... Madrassa teachers are paid from tax payers money while hindu temples are just to donate all their money in times of disaster.. why dont govt controls the minority worship places... none of this have ended.. so where is govt after false pseudo politically motivated secularism...

You don't profess publicly few things . .. majority of govts in india were anti majority and modi while trying to maintain balance but is forced to toe similiar line as earlier govt... shows how strong the so called minotiry ecos sytem is that its proving to be a force for majority by few miles..
OT is OT so we can leave it at that.

But we are "Dhavit Yatri" and we do belive in our "Chir Sarthy" .... I belive that "Darun Viplave " is on.... let us see.
 

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