Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

[Mikesingh]

Again Muslims...

This community needs to be forcefully taught respecting law of India.

How do you propose doing it? If it was China, they would have been shot. The survivors would have been sent to concentration camps to serve life terms. But we are a so called 'democracy' where everything and anything is par for the course in the guise of 'freedom'! Try putting these buggers behind bars and see what happens. The leftists, Lutyens media. Cong, Mamta and the mullah brigade will go berserk and flood the streets with fake protests making the situation worse by several degrees.

So we're between a rock and a hard place. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

 

[here2where]

But even after it's over and we've won, if we win, they will somehow dilute it with various arguments, such as india is hiding real numbers etc.

you cannot hide deaths, not in a rabid democracy like ours.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Epoch Times is rabidly anti-CCP and it is vehemently against the chinese communist regime. Please google it.

I said it's pro China, not necessarily pro CCP. Loved to post about Chinese people and culture.

May be, it's stance has changed since I've been reading.

 

[Bhadra]

......... Single source mob :bounce:

Man Bhavani has "Khadgam, Chakram, Gada, Chaap, Parigha, shoolam, Bhushundim, Sira, Sankham" etc as her weapons but those poor half cocked policewala do not even have dundas with every one. Look at their construction workers type of shields and the whole bricks being thrown on their head....

This is proper FIBUA man. These policemen must be equipped with IED to blast such a houses... How can you have mercy against death inflicting attacks... those policemen have rights to defend their lives..

Is it my country ..... they are criminalising their future generation too ?????

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

How do you propose doing it? If it was China, they would have been shot. The survivors would have been sent to concentration camps to serve life terms. But we are a so called 'democracy' where everything and anything is par for the course in the guise of 'freedom'! Try putting these buggers behind bars and see what happens. The leftists, Lutyens media. Cong, Mamta and the mullah brigade will go berserk and flood the streets with fake protests making the situation worse by several degrees.

So we're between a rock and a hard place. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

So legitimize hatred of their way,practises, community in your heart first.and then towards others in your near vicinity.that is how you build support.

After that act according to them economically,politically and socially.

 

[here2where]

Man Bhavani has "Khadgam, Chakram, Gada, Chaap, Parigha, shoolam, Bhushundim, Sira, Sankham" etc as her weapons but those poor half cocked policewala do not even have dundas with every one. Look at their construction workers type of shields and the whole bricks being thrown on their head....

This is proper FIBUA man. These policemen must be equipped with IED to blast such a houses... How can you have mercy against death inflicting attacks... those policemen have rights to defend their lives..

Is it my country ..... they are criminalising their future generation too ?????

I have said the same thing before also. My neighbourhood burglar is better equipped than the typical police uncle. I once posted a pic of a policeman facing an angry mob with a chicken basket on his head for protection. Are we a 5 trillion or drillion or something economy or a backward African state?

 

[AMCA]

Tens of thousands of Chinese PPE kits fail India safety test

India continues to see a shortfall in the availability of personal protection equipment (PPE) for healthcare even as the government significantly ramps up domestic production and some kits from China failed quality tests.
By Teena Thacker & Anandita Singh Mankotia, ET Bureau | Apr 16, 2020, 07.27 AM IST

AFP
NEW DELHI: India continues to see a shortfall in the availability of personal protection equipment (PPE) for healthcare even as the government significantly ramps up domestic production and some kits from China failed quality tests. Many kits made in China, the world’s main supplier, that were donated to the Indian government, were found unusable because they failed safety checks, a person aware of the matter told ET. Of 170,000 PPE kits that arrived in India on April 5, about 50,000 failed quality tests.

“Two small consignments with 30,000 and 10,000 PPE kits, too, failed tests,” the person said.
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The kits were tested at the Defence Research & Development Organisation laboratory in Gwalior. While government officials said they are procuring CE/FDAcertified PPE kits only, some consignments received as donations failed the quality tests and cannot be used. “Kits that are not FDA/ CE-approved have to pass quality tests in India,” the person said.

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Consignments that failed the quality tests are those received as donations from big private companies in India, the person said, without identifying the donors.

To meet the shortfall, an order for an additional 1 million suits has been placed through traders, including a Singaporean company, people with knowledge of the plan said. However, all suits will be sourced from China only.

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“By the end of May first week, we should have these suits. More orders are being placed,” they said. The government estimates India will be in a comfortable position if it had 2 million PPE suits. Government officials said there is no need to panic.

“The number of orders being placed is growing. China is the major supplier. We were totally dependent on imports earlier and never expected that there would be a surge in demand,” a senior government official said, adding that domestic manufacturing is ramping up, too.

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“Domestic PPE production has increased to 30,000 kits a day, hitting the target a week earlier than scheduled, and is expected to touch 50,000 by the end of the month. Cumulatively, we have produced over 150,000 suits and should be able to manufacture an additional 100,000 by the weekend,” the people said.

India has been procuring additional machines needed to manufacture the suits. “Another 30 hot air seam sealing machines will soon be sourced,” an official said, Meanwhile, PTI reported on Wednesday that China has asked all the countries to import these items through reputed Chinese firms cleared by the government and vowed to punish those involved in counterfeit behaviour

 

[YagamiLight]

Do you have a condensed version of that video. Can't spend 1hr on that video. Alternatively, I will just take your words for it.

You can watch the cut the clutter episode on it in The Print YouTube channel. His video is 20 minutes only.

Still you can read this article too

http://yugaparivartan.com/2020/04/07/indias-handling-of-the-corona-crisis-is-the-best-in-the-world/

 

[A chauhan]

How do you propose doing it? If it was China, they would have been shot. The survivors would have been sent to concentration camps to serve life terms. But we are a so called 'democracy' where everything and anything is par for the course in the guise of 'freedom'! Try putting these buggers behind bars and see what happens. The leftists, Lutyens media. Cong, Mamta and the mullah brigade will go berserk and flood the streets with fake protests making the situation worse by several degrees.

So we're between a rock and a hard place. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Declaring Stone pelting as serious cognizable and non-bailable crime, associating the same with terrorism in definition clauses, and allowing use of armed force on such people will do the job.

 

[AMCA]

Katora Khan after receiving underwear mask from Iron Brother China:

PM Imran Khan Emotional (CRYING) Video Went VIRAL on SOCIAL MEDIA

 

[YagamiLight]

Declaring Stone pelting as serious cognizable and non-bailable crime, associating the same with terrorism in definition clauses, and allowing use of armed force on such people will do the job.

There are enough laws in India to make these swines pay with their entire lifetime.

The only question is is the govt willing to do it.

 

[Aaj ka hero]

Again Muslims...

This community needs to be forcefully taught respecting law of India.

No.... Time has come now to throw them into Pakistan and Bangladesh, it is for this very own reason these people destroyed india before partition.

 

[Mikesingh]

So what's new? The COVID excuse to divert attention of the Paki sheeple.

 

[aarav]

Wion & Palki sharma is really becoming pain in the ... for CCP propaganda division ,they are literally shedding them apart and fifty cent army is just crying ,Chinese embassy published 3 letters warning against them

 

[Blue Water Navy]

The gentleman in that interview is basically saying what my neighbourhood GP who looks at my tonsils usually says - 'test only if required'. Basically test only those that are in the risk category. I see two problems with approach, especially in case of this CCP virus which is highly infectious and has no vaccine so no prevention - if a virus carrier who is not in the risk category (there will be many around us like this) is not quarantined and moves around freely after lifting of lockdown, he triggers another round of outbreak. Extrapolate the 'he' in my previous sentence to a few hundred/thousand undetected virus carriers who fell outside the risk category and were not tested. Sad fact is, we can never do enough tests to identify all of these outside-risk-category-carriers. So more and more outbreaks and deaths are inevitable, till a comprehensive vaccine plan is in place.

We need to live with a couple of facts - the actual number of infected and dead will be much higher than the official reported ones for obvious reasons.
Even after taking the above into account, one silver lining for India is the low number of official deaths. Even if there is tiny percentage of unreported deaths that was caused by ccp virus, the number is still minuscule compared to other severely affected regions. You cannot hide deaths.
I have always given more importance to the death figures, coz that is the only number that actually indicates the severity of the outbreak.

In a country like ours neither an extended lockdown is the solution nor the test-test-test theory. Lockdown can create what and whatnot's we already are seeing it & these problems are only just the beginning.

Coming to the test-test-test theory. Yeah, it can be done but to a certain extent only. Because with a billion population and so much densely populated neighborhoods. To what extent of the chain tests can be done? Or, simply should be done? On top of that, even if we do go for a testing spree, these tests will require money. And in many cases a person has needed more than one tests to confirm the infection.

The one thing Govt can do is to make people aware. Make social distancing & other safety norms compulsory by force or any means necessary. I know many people will say its almost impossible for people travelling in local trains & all. But what other options do we have? Apart from the previous two options.

The thing is we have to learn to adapt otherwise we won't survive.

 

[Akula]

Katora Khan after receiving underwear mask from Iron Brother China:

PM Imran Khan Emotional (CRYING) Video Went VIRAL on SOCIAL MEDIA

I think he was making Tiktok videos.

 

[ezsasa]

The gentleman in that interview is basically saying what my neighbourhood GP who looks at my tonsils usually says - 'test only if required'. Basically test only those that are in the risk category. I see two problems with approach, especially in case of this CCP virus which is highly infectious and has no vaccine so no prevention - if a virus carrier who is not in the risk category (there will be many around us like this) is not quarantined and moves around freely after lifting of lockdown, he triggers another round of outbreak. Extrapolate the 'he' in my previous sentence to a few hundred/thousand undetected virus carriers who fell outside the risk category and were not tested. Sad fact is, we can never do enough tests to identify all of these outside-risk-category-carriers. So more and more outbreaks and deaths are inevitable, till a comprehensive vaccine plan is in place.

We need to live with a couple of facts - the actual number of infected and dead will be much higher than the official reported ones for obvious reasons.
Even after taking the above into account, one silver lining for India is the low number of official deaths. Even if there is tiny percentage of unreported deaths that was caused by ccp virus, the number is still minuscule compared to other severely affected regions. You cannot hide deaths.
I have always given more importance to the death figures, coz that is the only number that actually indicates the severity of the outbreak.

What you are saying is the problem statement.

Point is “Test test test” cannot be a mantra for all, infact if you notice all major economies are coming around to the fact that isolation is the only way to deal with it.

Irrespective of whether the testing is done or not, isolation has to continue.

Just because someone is -Ve in test today, doesn’t mean they will be -ve tomorrow if they go out of their home and come in contact with a +ve person.

Then comes the question of which test needs to be done. Is it PCP which is costlier or antibody which is slightly cheaper.

If we want to test at least 100 crore population, total cost is between 1 lakh crore to 4.5 lakh crore.

Obviously we can’t be spending such amount of money on these tests.

Next best thing is hotspot containment. A core hot spot is not an entire district, it’s ultimately a few thousand households & streets(except for Muslim areas).

And more importantly, some of the best in the field are working with govt on this topic. A journalist can’t be a better expert than the domain experts(referring to the article you had posted).

 

[ezsasa]

My ultimate wish out of this pandemic is that, hopefully patriotic deep state of India(if such a thing exists) will use this opportunity to move ahead of the story and stop chasing the breadcrumbs thrown on the ground by commies to distract us from India’s progress.

RW folks are still chasing narratives set my commies , I hardly see any discourse about grabbing the opportunities every disaster presents itself with.

It’s time to set the target, and not keep on chasing the target.

 

[Mikesingh]

i think to have a better understanding of high testing rate in other countries, we need to know what type of testing they are doing. are they clubbing both anti-body & PCR? anti-body test can be done on site and takes 30 mins & PCR test can be done only in a lab.

Where testing is concerned, the first issue relates to who gets tested. Due to an extreme paucity of kits in India, testing has been done mainly on people with convincing symptoms or who have been in contact with people diagnosed with Covid-19. If testing is performed on a wider population sample, the incidence of Covid-19 will likely prove to be much higher than currently reported.

That would be both bad news and good news. The bad news is that it could mean that the pandemic is more advanced than we thought. The good news is that a higher number of Covid-19 infections would make the case fatality rate lower than current estimates because we would be dividing by a larger number of cases.

The second issue relates to the test itself. There is already a growing concern that the diagnostic test for Covid-19 is not perfect. It may come back positive in some people who are not infected and negative in some people who are.

 

[ezsasa]

Where testing is concerned, the first issue relates to who gets tested. Due to an extreme paucity of kits in India, testing has been done mainly on people with convincing symptoms or who have been in contact with people diagnosed with Covid-19. If testing is performed on a wider population sample, the incidence of Covid-19 will likely prove to be much higher than currently reported.

That would be both bad news and good news. The bad news is that it could mean that the pandemic is more advanced than we thought. The good news is that a higher number of Covid-19 infections would make the case fatality rate lower than current estimates because we would be dividing by a larger number of cases.

The second issue relates to the test itself. There is already a growing concern that the diagnostic test for Covid-19 is not perfect. It may come back positive in some people who are not infected and negative in some people who are.

The uncertainty regarding the testing is only limited to antibody tests, not PCR tests.