Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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Bacteria do mutuate themselves and become resistive. Who would have thought that older drugs such as chloroquine and streptomycin will be somewhat jugaad against corona.
 

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None of the above. I would not select any of them. If I contract it inevitably from somewhere then chances of surviving are much better in corona than dengue or cholera.

Plus if I survive corona then very high chance of developing immunity against it.
There is no prove that once recovered you will not get infected again recently many people in China tested positive for second time. Any how you may survive but the second wave will most probably kill u since your immune system will be weak. That's why China is still in panic though they have controlled it.
 

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Why the heck are u people going off topic, discuss the issue at hand.
There is treatment available for all these disease as we have dealt with them over the decade.
This Corona is a completely new thing that has has killed 30,000 and infested 600,000 all across the globe in a span of just 4 months.
It could kill millions in a years time if not stopped.
Besides health it has global impact on economy.
When was the last time TB or Cholera shut down entire nations.

Discuss the topic at hand.
 

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There is no prove that once recovered you will not get infected again recently many people in China tested positive for second time. Any how you may survive but the second wave will most probably kill u since your immune system will be weak. That's why China is still in panic though they have controlled it.
Do you understand probability? Are you a math student or humanities? Do you know how to calculate the sensitivity and specificity of a medical test? Do you have statistics around how many patients survived one round of infection, got re-infected and died? Finally, do you believe Chinese statistics and quality of Chinese test kits?
 

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Ppl who are talking about herd immunity , please remember that it has not been proved in case of Corona and we have repeated episodes of common flu still we don't develop immunity or herd immunity against it. Only because the virus mutates like anything. Corona virus seems to have immense capability to mutate,though it is still not proved. So stay at home and stay safe
 

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Why the heck are u people going off topic, discuss the issue at hand.
There is treatment available for all these disease as we have dealt with them over the decade.
This Corona is a completely new thing that has has killed 30,000 and infested 600,000 all across the globe in a span of just 4 months.
It could kill millions in a years time if not stopped.
Besides health it has global impact on economy.
When was the last time TB or Cholera shut down entire nations.

Discuss the topic at hand.
Sorry ,but someone was trying to belittle the danger of Corona by giving some examples based on his/her half baked knowledge.
 

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Why the heck are u people going off topic, discuss the issue at hand.
There is treatment available for all these disease as we have dealt with them over the decade.
This Corona is a completely new thing that has has killed 30,000 and infested 600,000 all across the globe in a span of just 4 months.
It could kill millions in a years time if not stopped.
Besides health it has global impact on economy.
When was the last time TB or Cholera shut down entire nations.

Discuss the topic at hand.
I won't reply any further to his/her post
 

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If I contract it inevitably from somewhere then chances of surviving are much better in corona than dengue or cholera.

Plus if I survive corona then very high chance of developing immunity against it.


I can arrange u a ticket to Italy if u want to develope immunity so bad.

Go get infected and then immuned, post your experience here it will be a great help for all the memebrs here.
 

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Do you understand probability? Are you a math student or humanities? Do you know how to calculate the sensitivity and specificity of a medical test? Do you have statistics around how many patients survived one round of infection, got re-infected and died? Finally, do you believe Chinese statistics and quality of Chinese test kits?
I am a bio student and yes we don't have any data available because it is the first wave of virus. I am again saying that herd immunity and heat treatment is bull shit unless you want to sacrifice millions of people. Those who are currently believing on it are plain stupid.
 

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I can arrange u a ticket to Italy if u want to develope immunity so bad.

Go get infected and then immuned, post your experience here it will be a great help for all the memebrs here.
Did I mention that I am looking forward to getting infected? If you want to buy me a ticket - make sure it is an open ticket with at least 2 year validity. I will be very grateful.
 

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I am a bio student and yes we don't have any data available because it is the first wave of virus. I am again saying that herd immunity and heat treatment is bull shit unless you want to sacrifice millions of people. Those who are currently believing on it are plain stupid.
Believe the evidence (in tropical and sub-tropical countries). Don't believe anything else.
 

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Did I mention that I am looking forward to getting infected? If you want to buy me a ticket - make sure it is an open ticket with at least 2 year validity. I will be very grateful.
Then why are u making this into a contest of TB and Cholera Vs Corona mate.
None of these Disease made us shut down the nation for a month.
Corona is more deadly because how fast it has Spread in just 4 months with no Vaccine in sight it is only gonna drop more bodies.
 

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Then why are u making this into a contest of TB and Cholera Vs Corona mate.
None of these Disease made us shut down the nation for a month.
Corona is more deadly because how fast it has Spread in just 4 months with no Vaccine in sight it is only gonna drop more bodies.
I am protesting the cognitive dissonance of the people who are panicking. Dengue, cholera, TB, Hepatitis, typhoid are much more virulent in India and its fatality rate is much higher too. Instead people in India are going crazy about corona and now we have reports of hospitals misdiagonizing ailments by concentrating only on corona symptoms causing deaths in other cases.
 

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As a young kid ,back in the 80's, I contracted chickenpox ,which presumably has given me lifelong immunity.

Chickenpox is not a nice disease. It took me out me out for a week and gave me a fever and itchy spots all over my body ,which I scratched ,to leave myself with unsightly scars , that were visible for a few years. But it was far better that I contracted chickenpox as a child ,rather than as an adult ,when it is more severe, and has potentially lethal side-effects.

Now they have vaccines for chickenpox. So need to go through the unpleasant experience of the disease.
 
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Are you saying current medicines guarantee 100% cure from dengue and cholera?
Are you stupid?
Cholera / Dengue
1. Do not spread as easily
2. Have easily available medicines and (under current medicine tech) lower mortality
3. Don't impose as much burden on health systems, ventilators etc

Here is s clue: if Wuhan had an outbreak of cholera, how many people worldwide would have caught the infection or died of it?

Don't argue just for the sake of it.
 

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Yes, the Swedish have taken it a stage further and carrying on as normally as possible


"Swedish PM warned over 'Russian roulette-style' Covid-19 strategy

Health experts say attempt to build herd immunity is a ‘mad experiment with 10m people’

Unlike most EU countries, however – including its Nordic neighbours Denmark, Norway and Finland – it has not introduced stricter suppression and social distancing orders such as closing bars, restaurants non-essential shops and lower schools, nor has it placed citizens in near-total lockdown, as in Italy, Spain and France.

Sweden’s chief epidemiologist, Anders Tegnell, has denied the country’s approach is to rapidly build group immunity to the virus, a tactic seemingly pursued in Britain and the Netherlands until both recently changed tack after warnings that their health systems could be overwhelmed and death tolls would soar.

But Tegnell conceded to the Svenska Dagbladet newspaper last week that such an objective was “not contradictory” with what he described as the government’s core strategy, which was to ensure “a slow spread of infection, and that the health services have a reasonable workload”.

On Sunday night, Tegnell told Swedish TV the outbreak would “calm down” in May but return in the autumn. “It will be important how much of the population is infected,” he said. “It will determine what happens in the autumn.” Coronavirus could be stopped either by “herd immunity, or a combination of immunity and vaccination”, he said. “It’s basically the same thing.” "

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...sian-roulette-covid-19-strategy-herd-immunity


As are the Israelis:


This certainly does NOT seem to be the strategy India is currently adopting.

From the transcript of the Israeli Defence Minster's video.

"......….corona is a unique virus in the sense that it is way more lethal for old people than for young people. In many countries, zero young people died. Countries that many people died and 0.1% or folks under the age of 30 or 20. Whereas old people over the age of 70 and 80, 1 out of 5 of them who get the virus die.

……………..

Most, the overwhelming majority of people who get the coronavirus won't even know it. It will take three or four weeks, they won't know they have the virus and by the end of those four weeks, they'll be immune. It will start with 1%, 5%, 20% -- when it reaches just about 60-70% of the population that will be immune, the epidemic is over and then grandma and grandpa can come out. It might take a month, two or three months, maybe a bit more, but that is the plan."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020/03/23/single_most_important_thing_is_to_separate_old_people_from_young_505392.html
It's Sweden, the country where the sizeable libtard group of people and government actively hates it's own people, culture and country.
If Corona wipes out a large chunk of the ageing white population, all the better, you can always import some more young male muslims who can then go around raping idiot libtard white women. Win win...
 

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It's time ,we Indians start becoming manufacturers instead of traders.
Shame on our Pharma for depending on cheap PRC bulk pharmaceuticals to manufacture drugs for India and the world.We are cursed with greed and incompetence.Ditto for our hi tech.We can send probes in outer space etc but cant produce a 100% Indian designed and manufactured smart phone.
 

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It's Sweden, the country where the sizeable libtard group of people and government actively hates it's own people, culture and country.
If Corona wipes out a large chunk of the ageing white population, all the better, you can always import some more young male muslims who can then go around raping idiot libtard white women. Win win...
So, Sweden- along with seemingly the Netherlands and Israel- are adopting the herd immunity strategy, cause they are libtards ,who want to replace their old population with rapey young Muslim men?

That is certainly one possibility.
 
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Are you stupid?
Cholera / Dengue
1. Do not spread as easily
2. Have easily available medicines and (under current medicine tech) lower mortality
3. Don't impose as much burden on health systems, ventilators etc

Here is s clue: if Wuhan had an outbreak of cholera, how many people worldwide would have caught the infection or died of it?

Don't argue just for the sake of it.
I don't think you know the meaning of stupid. Read up on the history of Cholera.

In India and other tropical/sub tropical countries Coronavirus is much less virulent than Dengue or Cholera.

If anyone has evidence feel free to prove me wrong based on stats from tropical/sub-tropical countries.
 
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