Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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I'm not saying that young,otherwise healthy people are immune or that the virus might mutate into a strain deadlier to the young Still, all indications ,at the present moment, are that this disease overwhelmingly affects old people.
From last week:



For a little perspective the average male life expectancy in Italy is 82 year, the 7th highest in the world and about the same as Japan's. The male life expectancy in India is 68.

The average life expectancy in Italy is 83 , the median age is 45 and 23% of the population is aged over 65 years.

For comparison ,India has a much younger population profile .
In India the average life expectancy is 69. the median age is 28 and 6% of the population is aged over 65 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_median_age

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_age_structure


For this reason ,even if Coronavirus becomes pandemic in India ,the country might be spared the sort of fatality rates as we are seeing in Italy.
The 6% in absolute terms will be more than 23% of Italy. Rates may be different but in absolute count India will be in a worse position than Italy if the virus spreads unhindered.
 

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The 6% in absolute terms will be more than 23% of Italy. Rates may be different but in absolute count India will be in a worse position than Italy if the virus spreads unhindered.
Yes, In absolute terms it probably will be,given India has over 22 times the population of Italy.


Europe and India would be a better comparison:

6% of India's 1.35 billion population is over the age of 65,which means an absolutely total of about 80 million.

18% of Europe's 750 million population is over the age of 65 ,which is about 140 million.
 
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Just saw ICMR( Indian council of medical research) press conference, they are responsible for Chinese virus testing and setting up new labs.

First thing first, their Director General is an excellent leader. Kudos to him.

He has clarified many of things we are saying here. And I like the guy because he advised the private labs to do the test for free, nicely said because those testing labs were using media to pressure govt to get involve in testing.

Like: WHO guidelines of “testing testing testing” does not apply to us for now, they will be applicable when we reach stage 3.

We can’t participate in WHO clinical trials because we don’t have enough sample(patients) to supply for the trials, unlike UK FRANCE ITALY SPAIN US who are in stage 3 etc.

Our Disease surveillance system is robust, so far no scientific proof that community transfer is happening. This is based on random sampling on patients already in ICU in big govt hospitals across India. Status is updated every week.

Reagents are not the issue, they are manufactured locally. Probes are being imported from Germany. 1 million probes have been ordered.

Two machines which can do bulk testing of 1400 at a time will become online by end of the week. Ordered for more. France Spain Italy also have one or two such machines with them.

More than 11500 tests have been done so far, with existing capacity.

So far doing ok.
Whats is stage 3 .is transfer from human to human know as stage 3 .....

Can we delay/stop stage 3 ??? if wont it would be catastrophic

should we be testing like south Korea... I know its impossible and require huge infra which i doubt whether we have

and about community transfer they are testing only those who are in ICU

Isnt that wrong strategy.I mean in ICU there would be patient who are not infected by coronvirus but other diseases (coronwaale to quarantined)

vaccine testing has been started in usa + china hope positive results
 

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Just saw ICMR( Indian council of medical research) press conference, they are responsible for Chinese virus testing and setting up new labs.

First thing first, their Director General is an excellent leader. Kudos to him.

He has clarified many of things we are saying here. And I like the guy because he advised the private labs to do the test for free, nicely said because those testing labs were using media to pressure govt to get involve in testing.

Like: WHO guidelines of “testing testing testing” does not apply to us for now, they will be applicable when we reach stage 3.

We can’t participate in WHO clinical trials because we don’t have enough sample(patients) to supply for the trials, unlike UK FRANCE ITALY SPAIN US who are in stage 3 etc.

Our Disease surveillance system is robust, so far no scientific proof that community transfer is happening. This is based on random sampling on patients already in ICU in big govt hospitals across India. Status is updated every week.

Reagents are not the issue, they are manufactured locally. Probes are being imported from Germany. 1 million probes have been ordered.

Two machines which can do bulk testing of 1400 at a time will become online by end of the week. Ordered for more. France Spain Italy also have one or two such machines with them.

More than 11500 tests have been done so far, with existing capacity.

So far doing ok.
Whats is stage 3 .is transfer from human to human know as stage 3 .....

Can we delay/stop stage 3 ??? if wont it would be catastrophic

should we be testing like south Korea... I know its impossible and require huge infra which i doubt whether we have

and about community transfer they are testing only those who are in ICU

Isnt that wrong strategy.I mean in ICU there would be patient who are not infected by coronvirus but other diseases (coronwaale to quarantined)

vaccine testing has been started in usa + china hope positive results
 

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254 Indian Shia pilgrims have tested positive for #COVID2019 in #Iran, Govt Sources confirm. Govt sources tell me, they are taking care of pilgrims with the help of Iranian authorities. Their lodges being visited and sanatorium being planned. Iran #Corona crisis is unprecedented.


what i was fearing has come true ...

also just heard in some news that 1000 people had be quarantined in UP suspected case of COVID2019
 

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Whats is stage 3 .is transfer from human to human know as stage 3 .....

Can we delay/stop stage 3 ??? if wont it would be catastrophic

should we be testing like south Korea... I know its impossible and require huge infra which i doubt whether we have

and about community transfer they are testing only those who are in ICU

Isnt that wrong strategy.I mean in ICU there would be patient who are not infected by coronvirus but other diseases (coronwaale to quarantined)

vaccine testing has been started in usa + china hope positive results
most of your questions are answered here...
 

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American media is on it, fact checking in full swing. See how American MSM are super loyal to their country aka the country that pays the bills.

Backstory: the Chinese have unleashed massive propaganda campaign to blame the crisis on USA, articles are being sited as facts but when you look at the content; it's a clear case of author not understanding basic English. There are also cases where authors are citing their own articles. And then our Lord wiki does the rest.
 

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American media is on it, fact checking in full swing. See how American MSM are super loyal to their country aka the country that pays the bills.

Backstory: the Chinese have unleashed massive propaganda campaign to blame the crisis on USA, articles are being sited as facts but when you look at the content; it's a clear case of author not understanding basic English. There are also cases where authors are citing their own articles. And then our Lord wiki does the rest.
and today CNN was praising trump, this was just 20 minutes after the news of deportation of american libtard journos from HK came out.
 

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Thing i would be looking for is how will italy react after things settle down, will they continue with their partnership with china.
 

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Thing i would be looking for is how will italy react after things settle down, will they continue with their partnership with china.
When the dust is settled on this pandemic, China more specifically the CCP is going to get royally fucked. You see, the Kung-flu is not just affecting us peasant\common folks, its affecting the elites equally as well.
 

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what if CCP just buys a few elites off, just like they did after 2008 crash.
Once you come face to face with your mortality, it become rather difficult to buy off people.
CCP might just survive by the skin of their teeth, but Xi and his cohorts or minions will get screwed
 

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Google, Facebook, and other tech companies are reportedly in talks with the US government to use your location data to stop the coronavirus - and to see if social distancing is really working
See this shit right here the always had the capability to track voluntarily or involuntarily
 

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