Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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varun9509

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Everybody is on edge. Manila is on lockdown. The whole country is on medical emergency. Local governments are hyper vigilant. Gatherings of 250 are prohibited, international flights are cut-off except cebu, and soon domestic flights will stop (still to me implemented). There is panic buying.

In my place, the only region without recorded COVID-10 infection, the local government has already deputized a hotel as quaratine zone although there is still no patient. But I think the more pressing is testing kits.

I've never experience this level of national anxiety. I mean we've had the 1986 revolution, coups, Islamic terrorosm, but nothing as serious as this one.
Stay safe bro, I hope we all get through this tough time with minimum casualty.

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these type of shitty organisations should be banned for defaming hinduism.
Fake, this was a staged event done by some leftie crackpots, the same type that worship trumps statues to promote derision. Seems many lefties attended the event and even shot videos..typical

Remember when AIB roasting controversy, it was a "Brahman mahasabha" that filed a case against them for "disrespecting culture", they apologized to the church padres and the case was dropped...lol.
 

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Mortality Rate is dependent on testing rate. US and India are both lagging in testing. But if testing can be done wider then the infection rate I think will be much higher depressing the moryality rate.
Currently in TN (my state) testing is being done only for people who have returned from countries where there is local transmission of the virus (like China , Italy, Iran etc), or someone who has had contact with a person proven to be infected with the virus. If you have symptoms, and you dont fall into those two categories you have to basically self quarantine at home.

A lot of people were wondering why this is done and testing is not open to everyone, but these are WHO guidelines that are being followed, (probably these guidelines are to ensure there are enough testing kits for high probability cases).

Testing will be open the general population only if local transmission is confirmed. In India's case at the moment I think majority of the cases are from outside or have a travel history to those countries with local transmission.


 

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Currently in TN (my state) testing is being done only for people who have returned from countries where there is local transmission of the virus (like China , Italy, Iran etc), or someone who has had contact with a person proven to be infected with the virus. If you have symptoms, and you dont fall into those two categories you have to basically self quarantine at home.

A lot of people were wondering why this is done and testing is not open to everyone, but these are WHO guidelines that are being followed, (probably these guidelines are to ensure there are enough testing kits for high probability cases).

Testing will be open the general population only if local transmission is confirmed. In India's case at the moment I think majority of the cases are from outside or have a travel history to those countries with local transmission.



Due to limited testing kits understandably testing is prioritized with the most high risk individuals like those coming from countries with widespread COVID-19 infection amd those locals showing known symptoms of the virus infection.

I find the updates and explanation of this UK doctor very enlightening. Basically according to him, based on NHS data and guidrlines the early symptioms of Covid-19 infection are: 1) moderate fever (37.8C) and/or 2) continuous dry cough (as opposed to ordinary cough with sputum).

 

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Our primary goal should be to trace all those who are infected.
People are recovering so it's a sign that it isn't all gloom and doom.
If the vaccines is supposed to be up by 2021 as everyone's saying then we have a mild chance of getting away scratch free.

The rate we are going at may reach 500+ infected by the end of march.

The priority should be to stop the virus from further spreading.
 

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Breaking: Iranian President Hassan Rouhani has written to Indian PM on how fight against #COVID2019 in Iran is impacted by US sanctions.


Abuses Modi and India and then begs to them for help, typical pissful thanklessness..

At the least, before sending medical supplies, we should demand tweets from Ayatollah and Rouhani praising India and Modiji.
That will we one tight slap to show them their place..
 

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now a couple from USA has gone missing after showing symptoms.. they were redirected to a hospital from there..they scoot
why is this buggers doing this?
i don't understand the reasoning at all:facepalm:

how does running away cures/help the damn thing!

the govt is helping yet these morons want to infect others? find them, quarantine them...if they recover slap criminal charges on them for risking a large number of people's health!
 

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Abuses Modi and India and then begs to them for help, typical pissful thanklessness..

At the least, before sending medical supplies, we should demand tweets from Ayatollah and Rouhani praising India and Modiji.
That will we one tight slap to show them their place..
It's all about geopolitics. Iran screwing around with India bashing it for the so called 'pogroms' against Muslims and taking up the Kashmiri cause is to show the 'Muslim Ummah' how much they care for Muslims. They want to thus be seen as leaders of Muslim welfare and thus take on a leadership role in the Muslim world, moreso since they have stiff competition with Saudi Arabia and Turkey.It's not about India per se.
 

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Guys consume zinc , Vitamin C, D, NAC and chloroquine diphosphate salts .
Keep your immunity up. 70+ people are at highest risk. Keep them indoors. And keep providing them all the necessary vitamins and minerals to keep their immunity high and organs healthy.
Unlike Vitamin B & C, excess dose of Vitamin D is dangerous. What's NAC?
 

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Scientists believe they’ve made a huge breakthrough in coronavirus vaccine effort
A team of Canadian scientists has successfully isolated and grown copies of the coronavirus — bringing the world a step closer to finding a vaccine to fight the deadly illness.

Researchers from the Sunnybrook Research Institute, the University of Toronto, and McMaster University were able to isolate and replicate the virus in a lab using samples taken from two Canadian patients.

The lab-grown copies will now be able to help scientists study the pathogen to develop better diagnostic testing, treatments, vaccines, and gain a better understanding of its biology, the team said in a statement.

“Now that we have isolated the SARS-CoV-2 virus [the agent responsible for COVID-19], we can share this with other researchers and continue this teamwork,” Dr. Arinjay Banerjee, NSERC post-doctoral fellow at McMaster University, said.

“The more viruses that are made available in this way, the more we can learn, collaborate and share.”

“We need key tools to develop solutions to this pandemic,” Dr. Samira Mubareka, microbiologist and infectious diseases physician at Sunnybrook, added.

“While the immediate response is crucial, longer-term solutions come from essential research into this novel virus.”

Meanwhile, eight institutes in China are working on five approaches to inoculations in an effort to combat COVID-19. Chinese officials say it could result in a vaccine ready for emergency situations and clinical trials next month.

The outbreak has infected more than 137,000 people in at least 117 countries and regions as of Friday evening — and caused more than 5,000 deaths.
https://nypost.com/2020/03/13/canadian-scientists-make-breakthrough-in-coronavirus-vaccine-effort/
 

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The Truth About Agra Woman Who Was Accused Of Escaping Coronavirus Quarantine Facility, And Shamed Online
by Tushar Gupta - Mar 15, 2020, 10:32 am
TOI report
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  • A woman, whose husband has tested positive for Coronavirus, was recently accused in a news report of escaping from a COVID-19 quarantine facility.

    She, however, didn’t escape. it turns out. Here’s what her family has to say.
Yesterday (14 March 2020), The Times of India (TOI) ran a report titled ‘Infected techie’s wife fled B’luru by air, took Del-Agra train, tests +ve. The report was filed from Agra and was carried in both print and online platforms of the news agency.

The report quoted health officials as saying that the wife, who had recently returned from her honeymoon in Italy and was put under quarantine after her husband showed symptoms of the disease, escaped from Bengaluru on 8 March, took a flight to New Delhi, and then went to Agra to be with her parents.

The first version of the report said that the techie (to be referred to as Mr. H from here on) had been tested positive for COVID-19 (coronavirus) on 7 March. The dates, as the disclaimer on the updated digital report suggests, came from the Agra health officials. The updated report says that Mr. H, a Google employee, was tested positive on 12 March. The last update to the report was made at 22:05 IST on 14 March.

The report also accused the wife of Mr. H (to be referred to as Mrs. H from here on) of resisting the attempt of the health officials to take her and eight other family members to isolation wards, and it was only after the intervention of the district magistrate and police force that Mrs. H could be taken to an isolation ward along with her family members.

Further, the report also stated that the father of Mrs. H, a railway engineer, refused to cooperate with the team of health officials and also lied that his daughter had left for Bengaluru.

The other details included the couple’s return date, 27 February, from their honeymoon to Italy, Greece, and France. On 7 March, the report states, that the husband tested positive, and they both were quarantined in Bengaluru. Mrs. H, as per the same report, returned to Agra on 8 March.

Filed from Agra, the report was first accessed by this correspondent on Saturday morning. A clipping of the newspaper report had started going viral on social media, especially on Twitter. At the time of writing this article, the report has more than 1,350 comments, almost all of them demeaning and disrespectful.

Among other things, many social media users called for the arrest of Mrs. H. Some even demanded the invoking of Section 3 of the Epidemic Diseases Act. Other remarks online ridiculed the couple for their irresponsibility and callous attitude.

Late on Saturday, Swarajya reached out to the younger sibling or Mr. H. In a phone conversation with this correspondent, the brother of Mr. H (to be referred to as Mr. J from here), discussed how the family had been shaken by the reactions online, and how the chronology of events being reported was completely false.

Mr. J spoke with Swarajya on the condition of anonymity, and for the security of their family, no personal information shall be disclosed in this report.

The couple got married sometime in mid-February. The correspondent learned that the couple travelled to Athens, Greece, from Delhi for their honeymoon on 23 February.



(Highlighted in Green) The two e-tickets the couple booked for their trip from Delhi to Athens, Greece. This trip was scheduled for 23 February. Prior to this flight, the couple took a flight from Mumbai to New Delhi.


As per Mr. J, the couple travelled to Greece, Switzerland, and France, and took a flight on 6 March 2020, from Paris, France, to Mumbai. The flight had a small layover in Munich, Germany.

Mr. J emphasised that the couple, his elder brother and sister-in-law, had never gone to Italy in the first place, as reported. Also, they had returned to Mumbai, India, on 6 March midnight, while the TOI report stated the couple had returned on 27 February.



(Highlighted in Green) The couple boarded their flight home on 6 March, and not 27 February, as the report suggested. Also, the couple took their flight from Paris, France, and had a brief layover in Germany. The couple travelled to Greece, Switzerland, and France on their trip.
Mr. J told Swarajya that the couple passed through the screening process at the Mumbai airport, where they were checked for body temperature and signs of flu. The couple cleared the screening process and spent the weekend at their parents’ residence (parents of Mr. H and J) in Navi Mumbai.

On 8 March evening, the couple took a flight from Mumbai to Bengaluru. The flight was to land at 9:45 pm in Bengaluru. Until then, Mr. H exhibited no signs of flu whatsoever.

The couple didn’t leave the airport, as Mrs. H was scheduled to leave for Delhi from the Bengaluru airport at 01:40 am (9 March), only a few hours later.

Mr J told Swarajya that the couple, given the excessive luggage from their honeymoon, decided to fly together to Bengaluru, instead of Mrs. H directly leaving for Delhi.

Mrs. H was leaving for Agra to be with her family for her first Holi after marriage. It is a prevailing tradition in many parts of the country where the girl spends her first Holi not at her in-laws, but at her parents’ place.

Against what was stated in the TOI report, the couple never left the Bengaluru Airport, and thus did not escape any quarantine facility. Mr. H returned home after his wife departed for Delhi. Until then, he showed no signs of any fever.



(L): The two tickets booked from Mumbai to Bengaluru for 8 March evening. (R): A single ticket for the wife, for a flight that was scheduled to leave merely 4 hours after their first flight landed. Contrary to what has been mentioned in the report, the e-tickets suggest that the wife had not been to the city, and did not escape from any quarantine facility.
On Monday (9 March) morning, Mr. H returned to work at his office in Bengaluru. The same morning, Google conducted an internal screening process where they did not permit anyone with a temperature higher than normal to work. Mr. H passed this process and was allowed into the office premises.

However, he started complaining of a headache a few hours later. Attributing the condition to lack of sleep, he returned home merely three-four hours later. By evening, Mr. H was running a high fever. Mr. J helped his brother with some basic medicines for fever, believing it was another routine flu.

Even on the morning of 10 March, the high fever persisted. Mr. J, speaking to the manager at his workplace, thought it would be ideal to get his brother screened for COVID-19, as by that time, the news of the virus outbreak was making headlines.

Mr. J accompanied his brother to the Rajiv Gandhi Institute of Chest Diseases in Jayanagar, Bengaluru. In the evening, Mr. H, voluntarily, submitted the necessary samples for testing. Mr. H was told by the health officials that the results could take upto 72-hours as the samples are sent to Pune.

However, they were also told that they would be reached out to within 24-hours if anything risk worthy was found in the testing.



(Highlighted in Green): The report for the first test that was conducted on 10 March, evening. The same report was made available to the family of the couple by 12 March, confirming that the techie had tested positive for COVID-19. This was on 12 March, and not on 7 March, as the initial TOI report stated.


On the evening of 11 March, Mr. H got a call from the doctor who told him that he was being moved to a hospital as they were suspecting him to be positive for COVID-19. However, a confirmation of the same was not shared with them at this point.

By 11 March late-night, Mr. H was admitted to the Jayanagar General Hospital. Mr. J, who stayed at home, was asked to be in self-quarantine and report if he too suffered from any symptoms. By 12 March noon, the family had the confirmation of Mr H. being tested positive for coronavirus. His vitals were checked and he was put under observation.



A few pages from the reports of the techie when he was admitted at the Jayanagar General Hospital. On Page 3, the patient is described as ‘suspected for coronoavirus’. As told by his younger brother, the confirmation came on 12th morning, and not on 7 March, as the TOI report suggested.


By this time, the medical team in Agra had swung into action. They reached Mrs. H and requested her and her family to accompany them for testing. However, upon reaching the premises, Mrs. H, to her dismay, discovered that the place was filthy and reeking of bad smell.

Mrs. H was in Agra on 9 March itself while her husband, as per the updated report of TOI (and as confirmed by Mr. J), Mr. H. tested positive on March 12.

Health officials in Agra allowed Mrs. H and her family to return home and be in isolation. Her first samples were collected on 12 March.

The next day (13 March), the health officials returned to her place and requested her and the family to accompany them to the isolation ward. Mrs. H, knowing the hygiene conditions of the facility, resisted.



Images of the isolation ward in Agra where the wife of the Google techie was taken on Day 1. She took these photos and shared them with her brother-in-law. On 13 March, while she was moved to a better facility, her family was asked to remain at the same ward.
Mr. J told Swarajya that Dr. Mukesh Kumar Vats, Chief Medical Officer of Agra, told Mrs H that her concerns would be taken care of.

However, while Mrs. H was moved to a better facility, the family was required to move to the same ward. While Mrs. H’s first test, conducted on 12 March afternoon, was inconclusive and showed no signs of her being positive for COVID-19, a second test was conducted on 14 March, reports for which are awaited. Her family has tested negative for COVID-19.

The TOI report blames the couple for being irresponsible and singles out Mrs. H for flying from Bengaluru to Delhi after escaping a quarantine facility. However, as per the sequence of events shared by the family, Mrs. H did not leave the Bengaluru airport and her husband (Mr. H) did not test positive for COVID-19 until 12 March.

At the time of writing this report, Mrs. H, rattled by the hate she, her husband, and her family received online, was waiting for the results of her second test.

Mr. H, meanwhile, is stable and is undergoing treatment for COVID-19.




Tushar Gupta is a senior sub-editor at Swarajya. He tweets at @tushjain15.
 

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Some reports are saying Wuhan coronavirus causes some kind of permanent damage to lungs ,Is it true ?
 

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Unlike Vitamin B & C, excess dose of Vitamin D is dangerous. What's NAC?
Correct.
Vitamin D synthesized by melanin in skin upon exposure to sunlight self regulares itself and there's no chance of over exposure irrespective of time spent under the Sun.

Vitamin D taken artificially has tendency to calcify and risks overdose especially in sunny climates, if you are an outdoors guy, especially in the tropics, you don't really need it.

Best to take Vitamin D3 with Vitamin K2 that acts as a decalcifier thus eliminating risk of vitamin D overdose side effects.

Vitamin D and K2 also known as activator X is naturally found in the clarified butter (Ghee) of A2 milk produced by indigenous desi humped cows.

As a decalcifier, K2 is the best source of reversing the damage caused by Flouride and healing the liquid crystalline pineal gland, the gland capable of developing extra sensory perceptions, better known as Shiva's third eye among Sanatanis. No doubt Vedas stressed on importance of daily ghee consumption!
 
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https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/indias-first-coronavirus-death-averted-report

India’s first coronavirus death could have been averted: Report

The victim, Husain, an old man, returned from Saudi Arabia after a pilgrimage, to Hyderabad’s Shamshabad International Airport on 29 February. Though he was screened as “suspect” at the airport, Husain ignored the paramedical staff’s suggestion to go to Gandhi Hospital, Secunderabad, and instead went to his hometown Kalaburgi, 85 km from here, on the same night.
 

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Some reports are saying Wuhan coronavirus causes some kind of permanent damage to lungs ,Is it true ?
Too early to say about permanent damage but there’s some diminished lung performance seen.

Btw, there was also an official report, later removed from China saying that it affects male fertility.
 

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