Giving you the benefit of doubt and hoping you are mature enough to think for yourself and agree or disprove what I said after enough research:
Thanks for that and taking time to pen down your opinions.I agree to some of those and respectfully disagree to others and i may be agreeing to most of those if you replace the word 'China' with 'CCP'. Our personal opinions will be based on our personal experiences otherwise they would be formed by what is driven by national or media based narratives.National narratives are led by leaders like Modi or Xi based on what suits their political agenda at a particular point of time, one time they may sit together and have "Chai pe Charcha" and another time they may refuse to shake hands in a G20. So let's prefer to draw our conclusions from the people-to-people relations after all a Telugu poet Gurajada Apparao said "Desamante Matti Kadoy, Desamante Manushuloy" meaning "A Nation is not just Land, BUT its people". I had the oppurtunity to interact and be friends with some Chinese students when i was doing my Masters in USA. Most of those were doing their Phd and found them to focussed and dedicated to their research objectives. I can tell you most them didn't like the oppressive political system back in China and liked their new found liberty in USA, but most of them were not vocal about it for sheer fear i guess.But one of them was close enough friend that he confessed about it and that he would prefer to continue to stay USA rather than go back to China. But Indian students had stronger family ties with back home and i was one of those who actually did come back to India and don't regret the decision.
This is very ideal way of thinking and nations and people don't function like that. It was in the mutual interest of China to lock down itself and tell the truth to the world about the virus that originated in its territory.
What did it do? It bribed the WHO's chief, made him announce that everything is fine and chill. The naive and dumb world believed it and allowed the spread of virus from China. Then we had a full fucking year of lockdown. And the virus got back in China again, as a more sinister variant.
Rather than controlling the situation at home, China was fine with the world getting infested and dragged down everyone with it.
I agree, in 2020 and now again in 2022 the CCP is acting irresponsibly and forget about taking accountability for spreading Virus to other nations by hiding information it is privy to, its also harming its own people.Removing travel restrictions within China is a capital mistake and just implies CCP wants to drive another Variant to us if it can. @SCL still didn't answer my question of how getting herd immunity at current rate of infection would be beneficial, obviously the optimal benefits of herd immunity is when elderly can be protected by breaking the chain after 60-70% of population get infected, but now at this rate everyone including elederly in China will get infected. Probably CCP is only mindful of economy and NOT loss of life?In India when Delta swept through, still some family members survived for most people, but that won't be the case for the single child nation of China and many 20-40 year olds will be left orphans as they don't have Chacha, Chachi like us.
I don't know why CCP behaved a little different and more responsible back in 2002 SARS virus, they shared their information very early and Canada where there was big outbreak outside China was quickly controlled and i visited Toronto with in 3 months of outbreak and everything was normal by then.
I'd say flow of ideas rather than intertwining. There wasn't a constant back and forth. There was not much exchange between people, civilization and kingdoms. In fact, India and China are recent neighbors. There was always a buffer in between. It was permanently gone with Tibet.
Maoists and democracy? I don't know all the political parties in India and their agenda, but I do know that anyone who is inspired by Mao mostly brought problems to this country. Maybe I'm wrong and these political parties are different and just have a name of a guy that killed tens of millions.
Again, our ancestors were thousands of miles apart. There was very little people-to-people exchange in comparison to say Xinjiang, Central Asia or even the Southeast Asia.
We didn't live in harmony. We just lived separately and hence there was little conflict. By the time we did become neighbors properly for almost the first time, it was during Qing Empire and British Raj.
This harmony in living together is just imagined stuff that media or pacifists say. The regions, civilizations and kingdoms that surrounded Han Chinese Civilization—the China proper were all eventually conquered, and their people either became minorities in their own land or they're just driven out.
I humbly disagree. There was as much flow of people and ideas back and forth as those times permitted. I think it all started with Buddism, Chinese travellers like Hiuen Tsang, Fa-Hien had profound influence of Buddhism which motivated them to make the tough and dangerous journey of crossing Himalayas and they not only visited northern India but came to down south upto Kanchipuram and there are well documented of instances of not only Chinese tourists but also Chinese clinical practitioners of Acupuncture treating some Indian kings,you can even find a scene in PS1 movie of Chinese acupuncture administered to the ailing Chola King.Similarly Indian spiritual tourism was limited not just to adjacent Tibet but Bodhidharma who was a Pallava king down south India travelled all the way to Shaolin located in Henan province which is central China and supposed to be the place where all Chinese civilization originated.Imagine all this travel took place at a time when there were no oxygen concentrators and Arctic clothing available.Buddism especially the tantrik form has such a profound influence on some Chinese Emporers that they invited some Brahmin scholars and in some cases kidnapped them to translate the Sanskit Buddhist texts into Chinese.They did that because they were concerned of the existing Chinese texts about Buddism may have lost their original meaning due to rookie Chinese translation.There were around 3-5 thousand people from either nations who were living on the other side of border at any given time those days and some of them made their adopted country a permanent home.
The list is Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia. This is the fate of 'neighbors' that were living in 'harmony'.
True, I consider Tibetens to be very different people from mainland China,CCP occupying Tibet is as absurd as if India goes and occcupies Cambodia just because it had some direct influence of religion back in history.Xinjiang is East Turkestan and historically Chinese suffered at the hands of their western attacking Turks and are probably taking revenge on them by subjugating them
Inner "Mongolia"...well there should no questions about where the province belongs going by name itself.
Urgh, you had to pick this example out of all.
There is no armed forces at the US-Canada border because one country is completely subservient to another. US doesn't even need an army on the border because the moment Canadian army gathers and orders an attack on the US borders, the CIA will know. For the US that staged many coups, it's just another Tuesday to oust the Canadian leaders and install their puppets.
Moving on from that example, the reason why China and India won't just vacate the armed forces from the borders is simple: Nations do not want to give away any strategic space that puts them in a position of vulnerability.
You and your neighbor can leave your house doors open at night, based on your trust. But the moment one of you thinks of robbing, it's over.
If we really demilitarize, and suddenly either we attack them or they attack us, the damage to the attacked party would be incredibly high. They might stabilize and stop the invader from advancing from further, but the damage is already done and its irreparable.
Imagine China losing Tibet, Xinjiang or India losing Northeast and Jammu. Besides, a lot of our population lives close to China's border, the death count would be enormous.
Since the cost of the mistake is so high, no country would even dare to attempt this risky but ideal move of demilitarization.
But what is the end result in case of US-Canada, obviously they don't view each other with suspicion right? Thats where shared values help and avoid prejudices in such situations...so if not the political masters, the people of both nations should strive to build trust.
Now, don't bring up nukes. Even if the invaded country uses nukes, it'll become a global pariah and the international community will support the invader so that the war gets over. Geopolitics are just that cold.
no need of nukes. In modern warfare not in its tradional sense of limited conflict between just armies, even if no nukes are used just the regular missiles are enough to cause huge loss of civilian life as we are seeing in Ukraine war. So in a sense i am glad, the historic ties between China and India though not good as US-Canada, are atleast not as bad as Ind-Porki where armed conflict with Guns is accepted. Pushing, shoving and grappling with medieval weapons is far better than full blown conflicts with Tankers and Missiles.
As to rest of concerns about an economically strong China spending heavily on military, i think they had a head start of one full decade. In this decade they can be boasting of 3-4 times size of economy, but can they really do that in 2030s and further when India continues to grow at 7-8% avg and China having all these disruptions? US and other European nations had embraced Chinese capitalism (back in 1990s) and their cheap products in the hope that it would pull most of Chinese people from poverty and in turn these ambitious Chinese would adopt liberal western thinking and overturn their communist rulers. how wrong they were proven to be!! The CCP used all this economic recovery ONLY to strengthen its tight grip on its own people and actually went Juggular with it during the Covid years. Only time will tell if Chinese people rise upto challenging a political system that's subjugating them or will just remain sub-servient to the political masters in fear for ever! I just hope a transition to a more liberal political system happens and in the process Chinese economy doesn't breakdown. I hope so because we saw how a nation can turn evil like Russia did due to economic collapse of Soviet and that nightmare can prompt leaders like Putin who beling 30 years down the line after soviet collapse.So yes i hope for liberal system in China but a seamless one...i know it's almost futile to hope for that, but that's what hope is i guess!
