Now how did you even manage to bring your M11 to crawl all the way to aksai chin in -35 celcius. PLA should finish the railroads to LHASA regarding the permafrost, then talk about bringing that so called M11 to Aksai Chin :icon_salut:Aksai Chin now days give a huge strategic advantage to China: it's around 400km away from New Delhi, and also closed to J&K.
1. Once we deploy a short range missile like M11 aim to India's capital, India has to deploy long range (agni-3?) as balance, since we have no too much important cities in western area. so the cost ratio would be 1:5 to 1:10; and if China makes India into such contest, will waste huge resource of India.
2. This area also can give PLA routine to support any affair between Pak and India.
Comparing Aksai Chin, the South Tibet is really less important, and considering we had limited resource in 1962, withdrawing from AP, but stick with Aksai Chin was smart choice at that time
http://www.ce.cn/xwzx/mil/junmore/200804/15/W020080415284783095370.jpgNow how did you even manage to bring your M11 to crawl all the way to aksai chin in -35 celcius. PLA should finish the railroads to LHASA regarding the permafrost, then talk about bringing that so called M11 to Aksai Chin :icon_salut:
OK thanks for pointing out, and let me forgive your limited knowledge:Pictures you just showed are from flat terrain. :thumbs_thmbdn:The terrain in Aksai Chin is very jaged, not suitable to deploy any 8 wheeled junk. Your toy soldiers are not super heroes who can live in -35 celcius.
So from your previous words, you know very limited things about 62 war and related knowledge. So I won't care about what you said, sorrythis is your 13th post here and no one asked about 1962 war figures. Oviously you are just a attention loving prostitute making no sense at all :twizt:
wow.do you think there's any point to discuss it?too much "if" means nothing. you lose the war in 62th.if you believe India is stronge enough now to start another war on the boundary.just have a try.let's wait and see.So what has changed now? I hope you won't be relying too much on the B2s on offer as some stupid blog has reported??
if it were possible to give that post th e opposite of a thanks eg a thumbs down or something, this would surely qualify !wow.do you think there's any point to discuss it?too much "if" means nothing. you lose the war in 62th.if you believe India is stronge enough now to start another war on the boundary.just have a try.let's wait and see.
China’s latest decision to issue stapled visa, not stamped on the passports, to the citizens of Jammu and Kashmir State is looked as the revival of their plank that this State is not an integral part of the Indian Union.wow.do you think there's any point to discuss it?too much "if" means nothing. you lose the war in 62th.if you believe India is stronge enough now to start another war on the boundary.just have a try.let's wait and see.
Yes, but we can look at PLA battles since 1962. They were slaughtered in 69' by Soviet bombardment and humilated by Vietnam 79'. From reports coming out from old time officers things are even worse as far as corruption and patriotism than were in those days.wow.do you think there's any point to discuss it?too much "if" means nothing. you lose the war in 62th.if you believe India is stronge enough now to start another war on the boundary.just have a try.let's wait and see.
(that's a partial quote for the post)Yes, but we can look at PLA battles since 1962. They were slaughtered in 69' by Soviet bombardment .....
Don't forget how the Soviet soldier slaughtered by US and China supported fighter in Afgs, and how the evil empire collapsed by this humilated defeat:goodstuff:Yes, but we can look at PLA battles since 1962. They were slaughtered in 69' by Soviet bombardment and humilated by Vietnam 79'. From reports coming out from old time officers things are even worse as far as corruption and patriotism than were in those days.
I tend to agree. This is probably a belated attempt to restore a fragile ego. I think IAF could have contributed in breaking the Chinese supply lines, not so much in an attack role.You're both wrong. The PLAAF's strength during this time period was not fighter jets, it was triple-As. Chinese triple-As shot down 5 times more aircrafts than their MiGs ever did and the tricks they learned during the Korean War was used well into the Vietnam War with PLAAF regiments still downing American planes heading towards Hanoi.
Triple-A batteries were deployed en-massed in 1962. Thus I am skeptical about the InAF claims that they could have won the war all by themselves.
OK Mr. Wiki... let us clear up a few things. #1, the counter offensive on Damansky Island not only liberated it from PLA control, but the strikes on PLA forces killed over 800. The only reason we gave you the island last year was the only way to seal a $100 billion energy deal on our terms. The island was worthless anyway considering Chinese pollution has made the fish inedible and we get tens of billions in long term profit.Don't forget how the Soviet soldier slaughtered by US and China supported fighter in Afgs, and how the evil empire collapsed by this humilated defeat:goodstuff:
BTW, your history knowledge is truly limited:
1. Sino-Soviet_border_conflict
Sino-Soviet border conflict - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
China:
29 killed according to Chinese sources
Soviet
58 killed, 1 truck, 1 command vehicle and unknown number of APCs destroyed, 1 T62 damaged by mine and subsequently captured by Chinese PLA
And this island now is controlled by China:
http://a4.att.hudong.com/70/83/01000000000000119078301913970.jpg:sporty55:
2. Sino-Vietnamese War
Sino-Vietnamese War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
China:
6900 killed, 15,000 wounded. Western sources: 25,000 killed and 37.000 wounded
Soviet
Under 10,000
Over 20,000 killed and wounded Chinese claimed 30,000 killed
Vietnam claims 100,000 civilians killed
And all the dispute areas now are controlled by China:
http://xsh.gxun.edu.cn/uploadfile/wsdx/uploadfile/200804/20080415112642402.jpg
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Dear Vladimir79, if your really lack of knowledge and motivation for studying, plz come to me, i can teach you. Or your English is not good, and don't know the definition of "slaughtered", "humilated "?
Considering Vietnam didn't withdraw its troops until the end of the CCCP I don't see what you are saying. It was a total Chinese failure.Vlad,
The PLA goal was to make Vietnam withdraw its troops from Cambodia, which it did successfully. It was never a war to take land.
I'm saying that you asserted that borders remain relatively the same after the war. That is because the Chinese didn't want to take land and never had any intention of doing so, which you claimed to be due to Chinese failure.Considering Vietnam didn't withdraw its troops until the end of the CCCP I don't see what you are saying. It was a total Chinese failure.
You just said the invasion made the Vietnamese withdraw their occupation of Cambodia. That is false. The remaining Chinese backed forces were in no position to launch a counter attack in Cambodia and by the time they did, Vietnam had already repelled the Chinese and were in full control. China left their little civil war on their own. China wanted to take contested Vietnamese territory in the process. The whole conflict started b/c China thought they could play Super Power in a Sino-Soviet proxy war... China lost and there is no doubt about it.I'm saying that you asserted that borders remain relatively the same after the war. That is because the Chinese didn't want to take land and never had any intention of doing so, which you claimed to be due to Chinese failure.
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