USA shows its true colours, sells F16s to Pakistan; Envoy summoned

[pmaitra]

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[sorcerer]

Shows its true color..
The only color is the color that benefits USA and its industries. India SHOULD NOT expect USA or any other nation to do things in its favor unless there is a political or economic leverage that can be hedged against it.

pakistan is a huge investment on USA and USA has free hand to do anything in pakistan...it has a thug army which can be brought by USA..a puppet democracy which makes a few hard moves by USA legit in international systems, geographic proximity closer to china..USA wont make things too bad for pakistan.

I think people are overreacting a tad bit here. This sale barely moves the needle in terms of India losing any conventional advantage over Pakistan.

Its not about that..its about inconsistency in the consistent policy of USA towards pakistan.

Come again, did I not read some arguments right here on this board that since India and US relations are at new level we should buy off their F-18, F-35 (in other words subsidize Pakistan's purchases)?

So you meant to say...pak does a terror attack in India...USA tries to sell stuffs to paki..in order to avoid that..INDIA gets in the middle and buys weapons from USA..

That will make a terror attack on India become a war hysteria which is a basic sales pitch for weapons sale. It has happened before..Since India knows how the game is but should not fall for it..but instead use such a war hysteria to buy weapons from other nations apart from USA and concentrate more on India's own defense industries for Indigenization


INDIA SHOULD NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM USA..if USA is inconsistent in dealing with pakis..
USA has a history of supporting both sides of the war.. The new relationship is JUST Entering this new game zone.

And..
USA doesnt need a partner anywhere in the world..they need a bitch.. Look at all of US allies...

 

[sorcerer]

Shows its true color..
The only color is the color that benefits USA and its industries. India SHOULD NOT expect USA or any other nation to do things in its favor unless there is a political or economic leverage that can be hedged against it.

pakistan is a huge investment on USA and USA has free hand to do anything in pakistan...it has a thug army which can be brought by USA..a puppet democracy which makes a few hard moves by USA legit in international systems, geographic proximity closer to china..USA wont make things too bad for pakistan.

I think people are overreacting a tad bit here. This sale barely moves the needle in terms of India losing any conventional advantage over Pakistan.

Its not about that..its about inconsistency in the consistent policy of USA towards pakistan.

Come again, did I not read some arguments right here on this board that since India and US relations are at new level we should buy off their F-18, F-35 (in other words subsidize Pakistan's purchases)?

So you meant to say...pak does a terror attack in India...USA tries to sell stuffs to paki..in order to avoid that..INDIA gets in the middle and buys weapons from USA..

That will make a terror attack on India become a war hysteria which is a basic sales pitch for weapons sale. It has happened before..Since India knows how the game is but should not fall for it..but instead use such a war hysteria to buy weapons from other nations apart from USA and concentrate more on India's own defense industries for Indigenization


INDIA SHOULD NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM USA..if USA is inconsistent in dealing with pakis..
USA has a history of supporting both sides of the war.. The new relationship is JUST Entering this new game zone.

And..
USA doesnt need a partner anywhere in the world..they need a bitch.. Look at all of US allies...

 

[Blackwater]

What Indian lobby doing in USA ??? Watching paki mujra??

What happen to evil Hindu and Jew brotherhood lobby

 

[AnantS]

Indian lobby cannot influence state dept. Only those Indians are let in who dance according to core US interests

 

[Indx TechStyle]

As I have told before, US backed China against Soviets, now they have to back India against China.
So, they obviously want us not to become other power centre like China to challenge the Empire of Americans. They are helping pakistan to keep us in control.
Moreover, pakistan has no Superpower Dream like us Indians. They are happy being South Asians only. So, thy even won't pose any threat to US. Tough stances must be made to expand Indian Economy as fast as possible.
I will also see how long western idiots can maintain their military superiority in era of Economic Power Balance with East.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

A lot of this is also economic. USA completed the TTP trade agreement this month and India was excluded. Now India considering a trade bloc with China. If this happens
It could be a disaster for western economies and the end of any
Anti Chinese coalition that includes India.



http://m.ibnlive.com/news/india/with-tpp-advancing-india-pins-hopes-on-china-backed-trade-bloc-1202863.html?utm_source=IBN News

 

[AnantS]

^ Another example of US prefidy... and people in India were dreaming that USA would make India a superpower

Dont you think we need a thread dedicated to US alone: where we post two news link. One article in which US promises or declares something to Indian Leaders and another article which depicts US does the exact opposite. This will help our gullible discovery, nat geo fed - new gen folks to understand real politiks

 

[LETHALFORCE]

^ Another example of US prefidy... and people in India were dreaming that USA would make India a superpower

Dont you think we need a thread dedicated to US alone: where we post two news link. One article in which US promises or declares something to Indian Leaders and another article which depicts US does the exact opposite. This will help our gullible discovery, nat geo fed - new gen folks to understand real politiks

We have a jokes thread no need to open more.

 

[AnantS]

^ But a thread dedicated to soopahpowah antics would be interesting... on second thoughts it could go to dedicated indo-us relations thread. shall contribute whenever I find relevant info

 

[LETHALFORCE]

^ But a thread dedicated to soopahpowah antics would be interesting... on second thoughts it could go to dedicated indo-us relations thread. shall contribute whenever I find relevant info

One nation does not make another nation a superpower it has to be earned. Why would a superpower nation want another competitor?

 

[AnantS]

One nation does not make another nation a superpower it has to be earned. Why would a superpower nation want another competitor?

I did not question that, but somehow our leaders seem to be convinced of that, until they receive rude shock! Manmohan had its moment during khobragade issue.

 

[sorcerer]

^ Another example of US prefidy... and people in India were dreaming that USA would make India a superpower

Dont you think we need a thread dedicated to US alone: where we post two news link. One article in which US promises or declares something to Indian Leaders and another article which depicts US does the exact opposite. This will help our gullible discovery, nat geo fed - new gen folks to understand real politiks

You mean a thread similar to Pakistan LIES and Denails Thread"..with the name "American Lies and Denials thread"


That would be awesome!

 

[AnantS]

^ Indeed


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[Kshatriya87]

You mean a thread similar to Pakistan LIES and Denails Thread"..with the name "American Lies and Denials thread"


That would be awesome!

That thread will take up the entire network of servers all across the world and the thread will still be incomplete.

 

[Razor]

That thread will take up the entire network of servers all across the world and the thread will still be incomplete.

We got freedom, democrazy and god on our side.
Haters gonna hate.

 

[Kshatriya87]

We got freedom, democrazy and god on our side.
Haters gonna hate.

Yeah right. I'm always right and you're always wrong, just because I said so. Of course haters gonna hate coz americans keep thrusting their ideas on others irrespective of they want them or not.

 

[Razor]

Yeah right. I'm always right and you're always wrong, just because I said so. Of course haters gonna hate coz americans keep thrusting their ideas on others irrespective of they want them or not.

Why you no get sarcasm???

 

[Kshatriya87]

Why you no get sarcasm???

LoL. I got it. My reply was sarcastic too.

 

[Nuvneet Kundu]

What Indian lobby doing in USA ??? Watching paki mujra??

What happen to evil Hindu and Jew brotherhood lobby

The lobby did succeed in gaining enough Congressmen on their side to stall the deal, but just a few hours ago I read in the news that Obama has used a special presidential executive provision that allows him to override all objections raised by Congress, it's some sort of 'national security' clause in their constitution that this negro has exploited.