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This is the "plan" for a Taiwan Bachao Aandolan

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With an "ally" like USA who needs enemies.
Yes, this is the path of least resistance, however it's not comprehensive, since Taiwanese companies are also a part of global supply chains for PCs and Smartphones and a bunch of other things, It's not just TSMC plus Chings conquering Taiwan punches a big hole in the "First Island Chain"

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Basically cucking over Taiwan is a big L for Amreeka but then Amreeka doesn't behave like a normal nation-state since it's run by kikes with overarching objectives.
If it wasn't for the kikes China wouldn't be a threat that it is currently, Modern PRC is a result of Western benevolence.
 

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Are there any articles,videos or podcasts on what is the West's plan for a Taiwan Bachao Andolan? do they invade mainland China? Do they just attempt to destroy the PLAN and try to get China to cheese-fire and sign some treaty where they agree to not molest Taiwan?
Murican has never fought a war with an equal adversary.
I hope China calls their bluff for good.
 

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Kissinger is a Juden, never knew this, alot of things now make sense.
Anyway this is the gora mindset to pussyfoot around China, no different from ours.
I wonder who is next on the menu after RUSSIA RUSSIA is done
 

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Are there any articles,videos or podcasts on what is the West's plan for a Taiwan Bachao Andolan? do they invade mainland China? Do they just attempt to destroy the PLAN and try to get China to cheese-fire and sign some treaty where they agree to not molest Taiwan?
Yeah, apparently it boiled down to vaporize Taiwan with Chinese inside it apparently. Modern day razed earth. That's it.
 

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Are there any articles,videos or podcasts on what is the West's plan for a Taiwan Bachao Andolan? do they invade mainland China? Do they just attempt to destroy the PLAN and try to get China to cheese-fire and sign some treaty where they agree to not molest Taiwan?
I think the plan is to start calling China East Taiwan
 

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@ezsasa @Trial By Fire What tools could allow Murica-Zoorope to still maintain their hegemony well into 2050?
Military Superiority? Not likely since the basic wepaons are being produced by the Likes of China, Russia and Iran. West wont have a big edge.
Social Media? Can be banned or throttled outright like how India did with tick tock.
Finance? I do not understand this one honestly.
Marintime Border? West had influence on many Marintime blockage point but that wont be the case always.

I dont think West will have the edge by 2050 unless they corrupt India and China to become just another souless, culturless shithole.

India and China alone are supposed to make up 35% to 40% of the world economy. In such a multipolar world there is no way west will keep its supremacy unless we become the next america, or china flips and becomes the next america.
 

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@ezsasa @Trial By Fire What tools could allow Murica-Zoorope to still maintain their hegemony well into 2050?
Military Superiority? Not likely since the basic wepaons are being produced by the Likes of China, Russia and Iran. West wont have a big edge.
Social Media? Can be banned or throttled outright like how India did with tick tock.
Finance? I do not understand this one honestly.
Marintime Border? West had influence on many Marintime blockage point but that wont be the case always.

I dont think West will have the edge by 2050 unless they corrupt India and China to become just another souless, culturless shithole.

India and China alone are supposed to make up 35% to 40% of the world economy. In such a multipolar world there is no way west will keep its supremacy unless we become the next america, or china flips and becomes the next america.
My top pick would be finance, all other factors are dependant on their control over finance.

in post WW2 decades when asia was busy coming out of colonialism and it's impact, west had enough time to define the technology standards and retain control of financial systems.

Military superiority, social media are tools to keep their "potential adversaries" occupied, they have to be kept busy so that the financial system is not threatened.

western hegemony is not going anywhere, atleast to me it doesn't look like it is going anywhere in this century.

can't say about china, so far what have they done, nothing except for posturing against the west. doesn't look like they have the capacity or intent to take on west. they are only posturing for bargaining power at the negotiation table.

as far as India is concerned, we are not planning to challenge west's global hegemony, we are only saying we want to be safe, prosperous and be part of global high tables.

a country like ours with such a high percentage of colonised minds cannot challenge colonial master's hegemony anyways. notice how they are trying to project "nationalist hindu" as a no no these past few decades, giving narrative advantage to groups favouring colonised minds. that's hegemony.
 
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Kissinger is a Juden, never knew this, alot of things now make sense.
Anyway this is the gora mindset to pussyfoot around China, no different from ours.
I wonder who is next on the menu after RUSSIA RUSSIA is done
This isn't gora mindset , it's die Juden mindset . Something we recognise as "Dhando parmo dharma. " When you can't conquer & dominate , you need to survive & seek avenues other than the sword to do so . Precisely what die Juden has done right thru 2 millenia till the state of Israel was formed .

If you're wondering why our foreign policy was & still is to an extent pusillanimous look no further . Of course we lacked the ability to do much in the first 3-4 decades of our existence except to countries like Paxtan which we duly serviced well in 1971 but the point is moot - would any other leader we had apart from IG have contemplated it ?

The Anglosphere believes only in domination not in co existence with mutual respect & honour. If that were the case , Churchill would've co existed with Hitler . Yet that didn't happen. The same Anglo spirit of haughty non compromise which informed that decision contrary to Hitler's wishes (which may well have been a ruse to buy time) , setting UK on a collision path with Germany ending in a Pyrrhic Victory with our independence hastened , informed the UK's decision to Brexit.

I'm betting the US will go down the same path with China & hope they achieve a Pyrrhic Victory as well. Cancel out China & incur so much losses that their days of being the sole super power is consigned to the history books .
 

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This isn't gora mindset , it's die Juden mindset . Something we recognise as "Dhando parmo dharma. " When you can't conquer & dominate , you need to survive & seek avenues other than the sword to do so . Precisely what die Juden has done right thru 2 millenia till the state of Israel was formed .

If you're wondering why our foreign policy was & still is to an extent pusillanimous look no further . Of course we lacked the ability to do much in the first 3-4 decades of our existence except to countries like Paxtan which we duly serviced well in 1971 but the point is moot - would any other leader we had apart from IG have contemplated it ?

The Anglosphere believes only in domination not in co existence with mutual respect & honour. If that were the case , Churchill would've co existed with Hitler . Yet that didn't happen. The same Anglo spirit of haughty non compromise which informed that decision contrary to Hitler's wishes (which may well have been a ruse to buy time) , setting UK on a collision path with Germany ending in a Pyrrhic Victory with our independence hastened , informed the UK's decision to Brexit.

I'm betting the US will go down the same path with China & hope they achieve a Pyrrhic Victory as well. Cancel out China & incur so much losses that their days of being the sole super power is consigned to the history books .
They started out as Dhando Parmo Dharma but now it's something else altogether, more like a clique of judens and others trying to play God and remold society according to their own desires.

The whole China thing is literally a planned villain/adversary, they poured investment and tech into China and looked the otherway while they stole the remainder for the chong to precisely turn out like this, I don't know what is the objective of this because since their fractured multi-culti society( also by design ) will probably break on the rock of China in an actual war, so perhaps they want to use China as a new (((host))) country? all you need is to bang a few chink hoes and learn mandarin, in a few generations you will be (((established))) in China also.
 

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@ezsasa @Trial By Fire What tools could allow Murica-Zoorope to still maintain their hegemony well into 2050?
Military Superiority? Not likely since the basic wepaons are being produced by the Likes of China, Russia and Iran. West wont have a big edge.
Social Media? Can be banned or throttled outright like how India did with tick tock.
Finance? I do not understand this one honestly.
Marintime Border? West had influence on many Marintime blockage point but that wont be the case always.

I dont think West will have the edge by 2050 unless they corrupt India and China to become just another souless, culturless shithole.

India and China alone are supposed to make up 35% to 40% of the world economy. In such a multipolar world there is no way west will keep its supremacy unless we become the next america, or china flips and becomes the next america.
It's Finance + Immigration/Brain Drain of best "foreign" talent into their countries.
Military is a result of this, if just pumping cash into your fauj was a sole requirement of being Supa-Powa, USSR would still exist.

The Finance thing is the main lynchpin, till centres ov Wurld Foinance are (((London))) and (((New York))) nothing will change.
All 3rd world elites shendi in hands of Gooropean kikes in Londonabad and those Swiss cities, because the elites store all their loot over there, and settle their kids too.
Al-Jihadi gulfie Arab overwhelmingly sells oil in US Dollas only
US Dollas are world currency.
America also has the world's largest gold reserve, and the vassals also have quite large reserves of their own + gold reserves of foreign countries stored in Western banks, like Russia, Venezuela and Cuba in the past.
 

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gold reserves of foreign countries stored in Western banks, like Russia, Venezuela and Cuba in the past.
What is the point of this, why would one store gold outside the Country?
vassals also have quite large reserves
A good chunk is looted from colonies. Actually we can Start a movement to get back that gold get the Africans on the roster as well.
 

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What is the point of this, why would one store gold outside the Country?

A good chunk is looted from colonies. Actually we can Start a movement to get back that gold get the Africans on the roster as well.
On the surface it's for "security" purposes, but in reality you move your gold reserves to foreign banks as a condition for getting financial assistance from gora countries unofficially.
It's to keep you hostage, and if you show "autocratic" tendencies or get regime-changed by a revolution/coup they will refuse to return you your gold.
*"You" here is a sovereign country.

btw I added the thing about Gold reserves because it is the only currency with actual intrinsic value accepted world over and even tho us low level mooks are told to be good goys and use the US$ as a global currency, the printers of the US$ know it's just a fiat currency with no intrinsic value, tomorrow if the US of A ceases to exist the dollar has no value, it's just fancy printed paper.

Like theoretically if Russia which has the most sanctions on it today could not trade in any currency, say if Dirham, Yuan were also sanctioned, they could pay in gold instead.

So the West has all bases covered.

Power doesn't flow through the barrel of the gun today, it flows through the (((Financial System)))

You may observe the case of Russia and Iran to see what happens if the seths of the (((Global Financial System))) keep you out of it.
 

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Kissinger is a Juden, never knew this, alot of things now make sense.
Anyway this is the gora mindset to pussyfoot around China, no different from ours.
I wonder who is next on the menu after RUSSIA RUSSIA is done
India does not behave like usa.the current us, atleast a lot of their elites and deep state types dont have a concept of a tribe, nation state or ethnic ingroup preference and in their day to day conversations and politics, thinking about in those terms is considered evil and can result in harsh consequences. they are just using the USA as an engine for profit.they could car less if the US population is completely replaced by another tribe of vastly different ethnicity or values.

India on the other hand has a high enough ethnic and tribal identity and most leaders and people are comfortable with these blood and soil identities.we are trying to bide time as much as we can trying build up capability and trying to neutralize or dimnish the effect of their failed state mad dog vassal state of Pakistan. We would not be acting like this if we had the relative economy of China that the us has now.
 

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@ezsasa @Trial By Fire What tools could allow Murica-Zoorope to still maintain their hegemony well into 2050?
Military Superiority? Not likely since the basic wepaons are being produced by the Likes of China, Russia and Iran. West wont have a big edge.
Social Media? Can be banned or throttled outright like how India did with tick tock.
Finance? I do not understand this one honestly.
Marintime Border? West had influence on many Marintime blockage point but that wont be the case always.

I dont think West will have the edge by 2050 unless they corrupt India and China to become just another souless, culturless shithole.

India and China alone are supposed to make up 35% to 40% of the world economy. In such a multipolar world there is no way west will keep its supremacy unless we become the next america, or china flips and becomes the next america.
Like @ezsasa and @shade said, finance is indisputably the biggest weapon the Great Satan has. Of course, this financial hegemony had to be backed by the Murican military invading and overthrowing those who refused to follow their diktat a la Saddam and Gaddaffi.

But now their military is steadily turning into a joke, and even they can't invade everybody. Plus, their arrogance with stealing other countries' reserves and ostracizing Russia from SWIFT has backfired on them really badly and made every country extremely wary of their position vis a vis America. Consequently, de-dollarization is in full swing, even tho it is still in its nascent stages.

The maritime power is also really crucial, tho this is mostly for containing China now. China has been invaded through Taiwan multiple times. It's always been important militarily as a maritime stronghold. And nowadays it can be used as an unsinkable aircraft/missile carrier. China does not really control its sea until it can control Taiwan to a certain extent.

And then they'll want to push their control towards the other islands. They can't do that with Taiwan in their rear. The strategy of the US is to contain China's navy within certain isle chains. I understand why the US wants to control it and why China wants to control it, but what Taiwan wants is probably to avoid this war at all costs.
 

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@Suryavanshi By the way, here's something you should know. The Great Satan is the biggest fraud in this history of civilizations and therefore do not trust them about anything they say, including about this supposed "massive gold reserves" they are meant to have.

They won't allow an audit and they won't publish bar numbers. Maybe they could return to a gold standard albeit through a digital currency most likely, but even that won't save them, since their gold reserves are obviously empty, because every time there's a bill floated through Washington demanding they do an audit on their nation's gold supply it gets shot down.

The Great Satan is easily the most perverse form of oligarchy known to man, it uses all the bread and circuses, all the tyranny of bad morals, all the psychological trades picked up from the 20th century and is and has been using the tools it granted itself after the world trade center was demolished.

1) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says it will back each Federal Reserve Note in circulation with forty cents of gold.

They don't do this.

2) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that bankers are to be held personally responsible if they fail.

They are not.

3) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says if a Fed bank is insolvent, it is to become the property of the US.
It doesn’t.

4) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that insolvent Fed banks shall forfeit their shares in their Regional Fed.

They don’t.

5) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that it will use its profits to supplement the gold reserve and pay down any US debt.
It definitely doesn’t do this. lol

6) The Federal Reserve has 3 mandates —people now only talk about the dual mandates, which are stable prices and low unemployment—the third mandate is to keep long term interest rates constant.

They don't do this.

7) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that the Fed will maintain parity of all forms of legal money issued by the US and strengthen the gold reserve.

They don’t do this.

8) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says the Fed Board will audit Fed banks at will.

They don’t do this.

9) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says its by-laws are not to violate US law.

They do.

10) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that Fed banks cannot discount stocks or commercial paper.

They do.

11) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says each Fed bank will maintain a surplus fund from its profits, up to 40% of its paid-in capital stock.

They don’t do this.

12) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says the Fed Board will supervise Fed banks.

They don’t.

13) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says Fed banks will publish complete details weekly of their assets and liabilities, as well as the nature of their transactions.

They don’t do this.

14) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says the Fed is required to write off worthless assets on its books.

It doesn’t do this.

15) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says it is to have reserves in gold equal to 35% of its deposits.

It doesn’t do this.

16) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says it will maintain a gold account at the Treasury.

It doesn’t do this.

17) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says the Fed’s franchise will be forfeited if they violate law.

It is not.

18) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that Federal Reserve Notes will be redeemed for gold.

They’re not.

19) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says Fed bank owners will be held responsible for all regional Fed bank operating expenses, debts and contracts.

They aren’t.

20) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says Fed member banks will not repurchase US treasuries that have maturities greater than six months.

They do.

21) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says US Treasury yields are to be paid in tax-free gold.

They aren’t.

Gold is mentioned 53 times and on 11/25 pages. The word gold is littered throughout the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, basing one promise after another on GOLD. It was the ONLY reason the legislation passed.

The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says the Federal Reserve will not pay any income tax, its shareholders will receive a 6% dividend or the yield on a US 10-year treasury (whichever is lower) and also to have all their travel expenses paid.

:pound: They did manage to uphold these parts of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913

Their biggest weapon, their financial power is set to implode majestically and when it does, they are going to crash HARD.
 

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@Suryavanshi By the way, here's something you should know. The Great Satan is the biggest fraud in this history of civilizations and therefore do not trust them about anything they say, including about this supposed "massive gold reserves" they are meant to have.

They won't allow an audit and they won't publish bar numbers. Maybe they could return to a gold standard albeit through a digital currency most likely, but even that won't save them, since their gold reserves are obviously empty, because every time there's a bill floated through Washington demanding they do an audit on their nation's gold supply it gets shot down.

The Great Satan is easily the most perverse form of oligarchy known to man, it uses all the bread and circuses, all the tyranny of bad morals, all the psychological trades picked up from the 20th century and is and has been using the tools it granted itself after the world trade center was demolished.

1) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says it will back each Federal Reserve Note in circulation with forty cents of gold.

They don't do this.

2) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that bankers are to be held personally responsible if they fail.

They are not.

3) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says if a Fed bank is insolvent, it is to become the property of the US.
It doesn’t.

4) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that insolvent Fed banks shall forfeit their shares in their Regional Fed.

They don’t.

5) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that it will use its profits to supplement the gold reserve and pay down any US debt.
It definitely doesn’t do this. lol

6) The Federal Reserve has 3 mandates —people now only talk about the dual mandates, which are stable prices and low unemployment—the third mandate is to keep long term interest rates constant.

They don't do this.

7) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that the Fed will maintain parity of all forms of legal money issued by the US and strengthen the gold reserve.

They don’t do this.

8) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says the Fed Board will audit Fed banks at will.

They don’t do this.

9) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says its by-laws are not to violate US law.

They do.

10) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that Fed banks cannot discount stocks or commercial paper.

They do.

11) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says each Fed bank will maintain a surplus fund from its profits, up to 40% of its paid-in capital stock.

They don’t do this.

12) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says the Fed Board will supervise Fed banks.

They don’t.

13) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says Fed banks will publish complete details weekly of their assets and liabilities, as well as the nature of their transactions.

They don’t do this.

14) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says the Fed is required to write off worthless assets on its books.

It doesn’t do this.

15) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says it is to have reserves in gold equal to 35% of its deposits.

It doesn’t do this.

16) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says it will maintain a gold account at the Treasury.

It doesn’t do this.

17) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says the Fed’s franchise will be forfeited if they violate law.

It is not.

18) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that Federal Reserve Notes will be redeemed for gold.

They’re not.

19) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says Fed bank owners will be held responsible for all regional Fed bank operating expenses, debts and contracts.

They aren’t.

20) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says Fed member banks will not repurchase US treasuries that have maturities greater than six months.

They do.

21) The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says US Treasury yields are to be paid in tax-free gold.

They aren’t.

Gold is mentioned 53 times and on 11/25 pages. The word gold is littered throughout the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, basing one promise after another on GOLD. It was the ONLY reason the legislation passed.

The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says the Federal Reserve will not pay any income tax, its shareholders will receive a 6% dividend or the yield on a US 10-year treasury (whichever is lower) and also to have all their travel expenses paid.

:pound: They did manage to uphold these parts of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913

Their biggest weapon, their financial power is set to implode majestically and when it does, they are going to crash HARD.
Mate, why every posts of yours are 'long posts'?

Can't you just summarise briefly and give the crux of the matter only?

Your posts contains good info but again it gets lost in the long paragraphs.

Just the other day one guy here was accusing you of using AI to write the posts here in this forum.
 

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Mate, why every posts of yours are 'long posts'?

Can't you just summarise briefly and give the crux of the matter only?

Your posts contains good info but again it gets lost in the long paragraphs.

Just the other day one guy here was accusing you of using AI to write the posts here in this forum.
Well, the myriad activities of the Fed are not exactly something that can be explained in a few lines without details, but basically:

The Fed is essentially a rogue entity disregarding the law in favor of its own policy of piracy, stealing the People's wealth right in front of them while the only entity in existence (US government) does nothing, are powerless to do anything, complicit, or at worse implicated in their illegal activities.
 

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