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Beijing has warned airlines to avoid flying in the Taiwan area, Bloomberg reports citing air carriers

China restricts flights around Taiwan during exercise

The restrictions will be in effect from 07:00 Moscow time on August 4 to 07:00 Moscow time on August 7.

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Come on Mr. Xi, you can do it.
 

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Ah, don't start that. You guys were calling me a traitor when I was (THE ONLY ONE) saying Azerbaijan would win against Armenia at the start of that war too.
I just try to keep an objective view of things.
No mate not me, I was not even a member during Azhar-bhaijaan and Armenia war.
 

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Do you think this is actully plotted by Jiang Zemin's Faction along with US to meddle in Xi's upcoming election to lifetime leader ??? given the current crisis in their economy and scandal in the property market will defiantly a force multiplier to confront Xi
There may be some truth to it. Xi has purged nearly 1.5 million people in Anti-corruption campaign since he came to power. Out of that many were from Jiang Zemin's faction. One of the blue eyed boys of this faction was Bo Xilai who is now in prison for life. Jiang Zemin and other folks who put Xi in chair thought he could be controlled. But Xi proved them wrong. It is not without reason why Xi abolished term limits. He has made so many enemies that if he leaves the chair he will be in trouble and his life might be in danger.

His close friend Putin has also followed the same trajectory. He served 2 terms and put his puppet Medvedev for one term and then amended the constitution to serve two 6 year terms. That was from 2012 - 2024. Now again he has amended the constitution whereby Putin will be Russian President until 2036. His Presidential term count is set to zero which means his previous terms doesn't count. The clock will start counting from 2024 for two 6 year terms. Putin also has made many enemies. He can't relinquish power. His life will be in danger. He has to die while in office.

One of the drawbacks of authoritarian systems is the leader always has to look over the shoulder lest they get thrown out or thrown in prison. Xi has enough enemies inside CCP who want him out. They might be egging him to go to war. It's a risky proposition. If he comes out victorious he will be even more stronger. If he doesn't it will become very easy to kick him out of the chair.
 

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Meanwhile PLGF


Give PLA/PLAN/PLAAF/PLAGF (Chinese Military) the iconic "Hilale" award for this! You know what I mean by this! (LOL).
 

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This is true, and I don't think Americans won't try to make this war as costly as they can for China but they won't risk any significant amount of troops for Taiwan.

As some say, the goal is to have a a long war, not a successful war.
I agree. If China attacks Taiwan, their goodwill with west will be over forever. They will be treated with the same hostility that Russia has. Their economy will take turn for worse.

The west will divert all thier attention towards China. We may even see some compromise on European front with Russia in future just to keep more powerful enemy China in check. India will see more positive attitude from western countries. The whole WW2, P5 countries narrative will change.

However if China invades. It seems highly unlikely they will do it. China's rise is like house of cards. It has many vulnerabilities. Their economy power is built on exports to very same countries that they are threatening. Their military hardware is not up to the mark. Most importantly within CCP not everyone is fan of Xi's agressive policies.

People are comparing Ukraine and Taiwan. The thing with Russians is that they are white Christians. This is why some in west have a little soft corner for them. With Chinese this is not the case. Westerners will not allow a non white country standing up against them. This is why I believe US would be more ruthless dealing with Chinese compared to how they dealt with USSR.
 

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Economic sanction and naval blockade.
Their is nothing else they can do.
Just like China will call their bluff, other will call their bluff in mallca
CCP is house of cards. A lot of their cader has money invested in west and American multinational companies have too many leverage points within China. Xi will face a lot of problems including his own party members turning against him.

Economic sanctions plus a naval blockade means complete collapse of their economy. How will they feed their 1.5B people? Underneath all thier propaganda videos and bravado posts on social media, there isn't much China can do.

Xi thought Biden is weak and a strongly worded threat will force him to bend over. This was their miscalculation. A similar miscalculation they did against Modi in Ladakh. This is why they don't know how to exit from this situation and save face.
 

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China is operating on a timer due to its demographics. On one hand they are still technologically at least 10-15 years behind the US, on the other hand if they wait much longer, I don't think an aging China can risk a large scale war.

If a war starts now, I'm not confident of China's ability to win against the US Pacific theater, Japan, SK, and Taiwan. 2030 is probably a better window of opportunity for China, but there are no more illusions over China's "peaceful rise." The other countries in the region will also build up their militaries.

Wolf-warrior diplomacy was a decade early and without the military to back it up.
 

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China is operating on a timer due to its demographics. On one hand they are still technologically at least 10-15 years behind the US, on the other hand if they wait much longer, I don't think an aging China can risk a large scale war.

If a war starts now, I'm not confident of China's ability to win against the US Pacific theater, Japan, SK, and Taiwan. 2030 is probably a better window of opportunity for China, but there are no more illusions over China's "peaceful rise." The other countries in the region will also build up their militaries.

Wolf-warrior diplomacy was a decade early and without the military to back it up.
India killed 50+ chinese soldiers in Ladakh and China didn't do squat. They are still waiting on their side facing Indian army doing absolutely nothing meanwhile Modi is banning their companies and humiliating them worldwide. Here we are expecting China to fight against full might of NATO+Japan+SoKo+Taiwan just because Pelosi visited Taiwan.

One thing Chinese have learned from their friends like NoKo and Pakistan is barking empty threats on drop of the hat thinking other side will blink first. Here America didn't blink. Now they are doing typical rona dhona on social media and propaganda outlets.
 

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Dear Chinese brothers, sisters & communist party members,

请把这些女士衣服给习。没有不尊重女士的意思。

习近平也会涂口红和化妆


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习近平是中国共产党和中国人民的懦夫和叛徒

习近平惨败,世界人民都在嘲笑中国

中国全是树皮不咬人

恢复中国的辉煌

习近平必须辞职

中国人民要重振雄风,给美帝国主义一个教训
 

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India killed 50+ chinese soldiers in Ladakh and China didn't do squat. They are still waiting on their side facing Indian army doing absolutely nothing meanwhile Modi is banning their companies and humiliating them worldwide. Here we are expecting China to fight against full might of NATO+Japan+SoKo+Taiwan just because Pelosi visited Taiwan.

One thing Chinese have learned from their friends like NoKo and Pakistan is barking empty threats on drop of the hat thinking other side will blink first. Here America didn't blink. Now they are doing typical rona dhona on social media and propaganda outlets.
What's the point of killing 50+ soldiers.. When enemy is still out there & seeking favorable outcome? We also ended up losing 20 soldiers of our own. Although unlike Chinese Indians are used to see bodybags & don't flinch at the sight.
Here they are getting bitch slapped by Americans & rightly so. Uncle Sam is on a roll this week.
 

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What's the point of killing 50+ soldiers.. When enemy is still out there & seeking favorable outcome? We also ended up losing 20 soldiers of our own. Although unlike Chinese Indians are used to see bodybags & don't flinch at the sight.
Here they are getting bitch slapped by Americans & rightly so. Uncle Sam is on a roll this week.
Uncle sam isn't planning to go for a direct confrontation with PLA, infact they are actively avoiding it.
Uncle sam didn't go for a direct confrontation with USSR either, they used proxies at each other.

Our fundamentals are different, when it comes to PLA. Xi can direct attention towards us, any day.

Let uncle sam have a direct confrontation with PLA first, then we can start giving prizes.
 

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