USA China Cold War

[Kumaoni]

2020



2021


Except for whining Chinese cannot do anything

China sends 30 planes into Taiwan air defence zone - BBC News

The incursions come days after US President Joe Biden issued a strong warning to China over Taiwan.

www.bbc.com

 

[ym888]

American economy thrives on war if you haven't noticed yet. They spent ~2 trillion USD bombing tents and caves in Afghanistan for 20 years just because some Jihadi bombed New York.

Do you think China will do the same ?



Real question will be, how does China plan to defeat 3 American carrier strike groups and plan a successful assault on Taiwan at the same time ?

The five permanent members of the UN are not going to go to war with each other

An old American lady visiting Taiwan is not enough to start a war,

But there will be a war of words

 

[Jimih]

China sends 30 planes into Taiwan air defence zone - BBC News

The incursions come days after US President Joe Biden issued a strong warning to China over Taiwan.

www.bbc.com

For Nth time,

ADIZ ≠ Taiwan's sovereign airspace

 

[Physx32]

Come Xi, you can do it.

Send couple of squadrons to buzz/bug the incoming package. No need to shoot down anything. Just, at least, do an unsafe maneuver(s). If not, Chinese people will see you a clown & traitor. Lets see if burger shits fire the first salvo, if they do, noodle shits can retaliate. Make a move & "liberate" a couple of Taiwan held islands.

I need to see USA & it's largest trading partner go at each others throat.

If nothing happens, it's all staged.

Aisa kuch nhi hoga. At most 2 PLAAF fighter jets will do "dangerous" stunts around the American plane and in turn crash in the ocean or into themselves. Next America will do kadi ninda™ for the "unsafe maneuvers" and chongs their famous RR on Gobar Times.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Forget china, who is one of their largest trading partners, these guys can’t even sanction Russia properly. I mean, look at inflation rates, gas prices, and the current state of the US economy. Not the best.

China has been planning for this for some 70 years.

The reverse is also true, US trade makes a big chunk of the Chinese economy. Well, if they can't afford sanction each other, they won't, simple !

Will america risk a war with China?

Do you think China is some suicidal maniac like Russia ? The proper question will be, will China risk a war with America ?

 

[Jimih]

I think we need a new thread now

You are right mate

 

[Kumaoni]

The reverse is also true, US trade makes a big chunk of the Chinese economy. Well, if they can't afford sanction each other, they won't, simple !

That’s why it’s in India’s best interest for this war to happen. It will cripple the two most annoying regimes to ever exist. India might be able to reclaim parts of tibet and Aksai chin as a result, chinese economy will be crippled beyond repair.

Do you think China is some suicidal maniac like Russia ? The proper question will be, will China risk a war with America ?

No.

China and Russia have a very different outlook on the world. A Chinese diplomat to Russia put it briefly:
“China and Russia have different attitudes. Russia wants to break the current international order….Russia thinks it is the victim of the current international system, in which its economy and its society do not develop. But China benefits from the current international system. We want to improve and modify it, not to break it.”

Read more at:
http://www.indiandefencereview.com/...eaders-look-for-opportunity-amid-ukraine-war/

The second reason is India; we are the only country openly standing up to the Chongs. If they weaken their western border, they will face a threat from us. With Pakistans current state, it’s unlikely they will be able to aid.

 

[Kumaoni]

For Nth time,

ADIZ ≠ Taiwan's sovereign airspace

Both sides will bitch about eachothers aggression. Now; the real test is coming. If Pelosi visits Taiwan or not.

 

[Knowitall]

American economy thrives on war if you haven't noticed yet. They spent ~2 trillion USD bombing tents and caves in Afghanistan for 20 years just because some Jihadi bombed New York.

Do you think China will do the same ?



Real question will be, how does China plan to defeat 3 American carrier strike groups and plan a successful assault on Taiwan at the same time ?

It's a myth honestly.

The American elite thrive on war not the economy itself.

All those years spent in foreign wars have now resulted in unprecedented lack of proper infrastructure back home exponential medical bills a rising real estate bubble inflation industry removal etc.

The only thing that holds all of this together is the dollar and its status as the reserve currency.

Being 23 trillion dollar in debt with 2 back to back quarters of negative growth is no genius strategy. It's a Ponzi scheme held together by the dollar which is slowly being eroded too.

As more and more European banks move towards CIPS and India Russia China continue to trade on commodity using their own currencies a trend is being set for the eventual collapse of dollar.

Does this mean the Chinese can mess with the US.

No both the economics are too tightly interlinked at this point for any meaningful sanctions or war to take place.

The Chinese are not yet strong enough to take on the US and they know it.

Taiwan continues to shift away from China while the dollar inches towards the end. At this point both the sides are forcing the other side to make a mistake first in the hope that it would save them.

 

[Jimih]

Current positions of 3 CSGs

 

[Knowitall]

Current positions of 3 CSGs

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There is no way in hell they are breaking through the first island chain with 3 carriers right at their doorstep.

 

[Knowitall]

Current positions of 3 CSGs

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Another point members need to understand is that while the Americans have a single full fledged carrier in the region their amphibious assault ships carrier around 20 F-35 each thus making them an extremely potent AW asset too.

 

[Jimih]

i dont know why they allow that retard Hu and globaltimes to still exist . chutiya should just commit suicide if pelosi visit Taiwan

Xi Jinping's BF is crying

 

[Knowitall]

Xi Jinping's BF is crying

My boi will have to commit seppaku if she does land in Taiwan.

 

[Kumaoni]

in pangong tso we actually fired warning shots , there was no return fire . all that monkey dancing in pangong tso and they still had to withdraw.

for depsang/galwan/hotspring , outcome would have been different if we had proper infra and proper deployment .

Ofc, this is the difference between organizing drag shows for your airforce and actually standing up.

China benefits from India beinf a democracy, I must say. A half dictator named Indira gandhi was enough to fuck all their aggressive ambitions in Sikkim.

 

[Knowitall]

China will back down 90% most probably. They don't have it in them to do something bold.

 

[Kumaoni]

If China backs down, I’ll be very sad. I hope they commit suicide by not backing down.

 

[Knowitall]

If China backs down, I’ll be very sad. I hope they commit suicide by not backing down.

This entire drama has been the biggest hot topic in weibo and Chinese SM. The domestic backlash will be serious.

 

[flanker99]

China will back down 90% most probably. They don't have it in them to do something bold.

2 steps forward 1 step backwards......my guess
1.they take taiwanese islands close to mainland and SCS...then threatens to invade mainland(maybe does some missile attacks).
2.US/West intervenes and get into a standoff....
3.china tries to get concessions from taiwan like 1country 2 govt like HK or forces taiwan to accept a party chosen by china.
4.western countries get major arms deals due to bad security situation in the region

 

[Kumaoni]

This entire drama has been the biggest hot topic in weibo and Chinese SM. The domestic backlash will be serious.

Many Weibo Chongs agents also live in the too. Will be funny to watch. I’m currently hurling some very racist abuses to Chongs In a telegram group about how their army is a joke.