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Postcards from Paris: Indo-French Cooperation and the New World Order
BY ISHA VERMA · 7TH JUNE 2020



Mr Emmanuel Lenain, Ambassador of France to India and Dr Samir Saran, President of Observer Research Foundation joined a digital conversation on Friday where they discussed the scope of relations between India and France as well as the emerging new world order in the aftermath of COVID-19.
As a seasoned diplomat, Ambassador Lenain painted a rich tapestry of contemporary issues and acquainted his audience with the role of Paris currently. He started the conversation with an overview of the situation in France in the wake of the pandemic.
He presented a very optimistic view as he believes that the situation is getting better and that his country is winning against the present crisis. The lockdown has been lifted, the number of COVID-19 patients have decreased and contingency plans are being prepared for the second possible wave of the infection. The looming concern now is the state of the economy but fortunately, significant relief packages are being designed by the French as well as the EU governments.
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Upon Dr Saran’s inquiry regarding the learnings the French could share with India, Ambassador Lenain emphasised the ideals of discipline and solidarity
This crisis has proven the importance of the European Union and their use of collective action in the face of adversity. The outbreak of COVID 19 highlighted the existing challenges and EU has been worried by the reaction of the international community to the pandemic as it witnessed strong assertion of power mentalities, rivalries for influence, and pushing of domestic agendas. However, the EU has always strengthened in times of crises. Accordingly, the EU is working on an impressive economic recovery package which will target sectors and countries that really need them. The combination of the Union-wide package and national efforts will be essential.
EU has also realised that it cannot just rely on one country for goods and that it should re-establish itself as a global player and level the playing field. There has been a strong awakening among certain EU nations regarding the necessity for a strategy concerning China. The strategy should mirror China’s determined and long-term approach and rival their economy and technological capability. A strong need has been realised to develop strategic industrial autonomy and plural sources of supplies for themselves. In the meantime, the EU and China should focus on partnering for global issues such as climate change.
Cooperation has always defined the transatlantic relations between the European Union and the United States. They have left never each other’s sides and NATO has further strengthened the bond. However, in recent times, the EU has been surprised by the changes in the United States as it has become progressively unpredictable. In addition, the current administration had switched its attention and resources to the Asian and Pacific regions. The future will be determined by the results of the upcoming American elections but EU hopes that the United States soon returns back to its usual contribution to the international system.
France has been very proactive in shaping the Indo-Pacific but the EU has been a different matter according to Dr Saran. Ambassador Lenain agreed as he reiterated France’s commitment to Indo-Pacific strategy and explained that some of EU countries have not been so involved because of the geographical distance in contrast to France who have some linkages in the region in form of places like New Caledonia. However, as a result of the new strategic awakening, Ambassador Lenain is confident that the EU will seek better connectivity in the region and discuss its possibility in the next EU-India summit.

Concerning the 5G debate, the French Ambassador stressed the need for autonomy in the field of technology. There has been a rise in stringent plans, red tape and legal frameworks for communication provider companies. Whilst he thinks that there will not be a cold war on the basis of technology, he does state that there are strong concerns about security and data that need to be addressed urgently. A number of initiatives such as the Budapest Convention have been developed to deal with the threat of cyber-related crimes and attacks.
The Ambassador is glad that India had established and maintained commendable relations with a great number of countries such as Australia and the United States. He believes that these relations will inform his country’s involvement in the region and that they welcome it. He recounted that France has always been on India’s side and that they are all-weather friends. He truly appreciates the medical aid India has provided France in the time of COVID-19 and recapped the reciprocity his country has shown to India. He stated that France is open to a complete strategic alliance and partnership with India.
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There can be no better link between two countries than people to people exchange and there are no better facilitators than students looking to pursue high studies. The Ambassador welcomes all Indian students and highlighted the French efforts made to encourage them. He informed that costs are affordable and numerous scholarships are available to accommodate the students. He ensured that all measures will be taken to make the institutes safe in the face of COVID-19 and all necessary provisions will be made. In addition, he outlined work opportunities and ideal conditions that will allow Indian students to make the most of their experience in France.
After an extensive round of questions from the audience concerning the South China Sea, France’s nuclear capabilities and US-Iran tensions, the conversation came to an end after a final question asked by Dr Saran concerning a possible coalition of middle powers who believe in strategic autonomy and led by France and India.

The views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Kootneeti Team

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I hope that last kick on the ass of Huawei will be from India let's see how many countries China will mess with.
Jio , airtel , voda-idea ....
All of them have chose non Chinese technologies for 5G development .
It is risky to invest your billions of $ on chinese technology which can be baned by the Indian government in the future .
 

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Jio , airtel , voda-idea ....
All of them have chose non Chinese technologies for 5G development .
It is risky to invest your billions of $ on chinese technology which can be baned by the Indian government in the future .
Jio is now getting huge money from investors. It can take advantage of huwei ban in West and become a large equipment manufacturer for 5g /4g equipment. Even if jio builds on licence for the likes of Nokia and Ericssons it's still a big opportunity.
 

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In India’s China policy, a mix of three approaches
12 June 2020
DHRUVA JAISHANKAR
Countries are relying on internal strength, engagement with Beijing and external balancing. Prioritise wisely

US, India, China, Doklam, Ladakh, Standoff, Modi, Xi Jinping
Many countries are reconsidering their relationship with China — the United States (US) and the European Union, Australia and Canada, Indonesia and Japan, Brazil and Russia. Their policies have generally involved a combination of three approaches, often pursued simultaneously. The first is internal balancing, strengthening themselves and developing capabilities in response to China’s growing power. The second is engagement, working with China to reach understandings, although this requires some give and take by both sides. The third is external balancing, cooperating with others to gain more leverage and security vis-à-vis Beijing. Every country’s debate about its China policy has essentially involved how much emphasis it can and should place on each approach.

India’s scepticism about China runs farther and deeper than many others, dating back to the late 1950s and especially the 1962 war. Despite a return to full diplomatic ties in the late 1970s, normalisation began with Rajiv Gandhi’s 1988 visit to China and the agreements of 1993. Commercial normalisation was only evident after about 2003. But the scepticism never truly disappeared.

The India-China relationship can be considered to have four main components. The boundary dispute and bilateral security competition is one. But regional security competition in India’s neighbourhood was always a second factor. The Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) today leverages China’s resources, but there were antecedents; Nepal settling its border with China in the 1960s, China’s sharing of nuclear technology with Pakistan in the 1970s, Bangladesh importing Chinese military hardware in the 1980s, and Chinese backing for the military junta in Myanmar in the 1990s.

Two other elements were previously considered dampeners of India-China competition. Economic relations grew after 2003 but Indian enthusiasm waned as Chinese market access proved limited and the trade deficit widened. The fourth aspect was global governance cooperation. While China and India found common cause at BRICS, the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), and the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, Beijing’s emphasis on international coalition-building was eventually surpassed by its own superpower ambitions.

India consequently began balancing even as it normalised ties with Beijing. China was a major driver of the India-US civil nuclear agreement, which enabled defence and technological relationships with the US and its allies (including Europe, Japan, and Australia). China’s overt opposition to India’s waiver at the Nuclear Suppliers Group in 2008 indicated its unease with that development. What approaches did India subsequently adopt?

First, efforts at internal balancing required a robust Indian economy, appropriate budgetary allocations for national security, and political will to deploy these tools. However, the Indian economy did not perform as dynamically as many had hoped after 2011. Nonetheless, India activated once-dormant airfields, raised army mountain divisions, reallocated air force assets eastwards, and began to improve border infrastructure.

Other tools came into play. Indian aid and concessional loans to the neighbours (especially Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, and the Maldives) increased and naval deployments in the Indian and western Pacific Oceans picked up by late 2017, although capital budgetary allocations did not keep pace. India’s willingness to intervene to support Bhutan against Chinese road-building in Doklam was an important statement of intent. While these developments have been positive, it is debatable whether they have been sufficient given the widening resource gap with China.

India also attempted engagement with Beijing. The period between the global financial crisis of 2008 and the Chumar stand-off during Xi Jinping’s India visit in 2014 witnessed the most sustained engagement in recent years. This was motivated by several factors — an accelerated global economic rebalance, US attempts at engaging China under Barack Obama, and political dynamics within India. While this period also witnessed a hardening of India’s military position on the border, efforts at external balancing slowed down.

The latest period of engagement, which began in 2017, revealed that neither China nor India were able or willing to make major compromises. India continued to reject both the BRI and the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP). The boundary question remained unanswered. Even on economic relations, China made only minor concessions on agricultural and pharmaceutical imports. Even in the absence of real changes, the rhetoric of engagement made sense in the aftermath of the Doklam crisis only because it bought both countries time.

Finally, external balancing involved a series of arrangements with partners that shared India’s concerns about China, with the intention of improving interoperability, facilitating intelligence and assessments, and boosting each other’s economic and defence capabilities. In the past few years, India has made progress in facilitating logistics support, increasing maritime awareness, upgrading military exercises, and regularising strategic dialogues with the US, Japan, Australia, Russia, France, South Korea, Southeast Asia, and others. This month’s India-Australia “virtual summit” is but the latest step in a larger progression.

India is not alone in having a domestic debate about managing China’s rise. A combination of approaches will remain in the policy mix of every country. But if one believes that India’s internal balancing has been inadequate and engagement requires some genuine compromises by Beijing, New Delhi must logically accelerate its efforts at external balancing to deal with a more powerful China

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When we look to the media and related industries (i.e. entertainment, motivational, more) its getting a terrible and disturbed profile (not only in Bharat - globally). The communist (minority) with "presently" large areas and numbers is able to dictate the discourse on and of the media and related industries. Fake ? thats too polite. Rogue ? I would add to this architects, engineers, and pragmatism.

"To encourage, support, or countenance by aid or approval, usually in wrongdoing: to abet a swindler; to abet a crime."

The association of the and with the communists ? The media and related industries can do better ? Its incredibly degrading and people are forgetting how good and useful it can be when done with the righteousness. Seeds are being planted. Wounded ? No. Better options and paths now ? Correct. Jai Hind.
 

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Diplomatic tit-for-tat restrictions imposed by USA on PRC Diplomats:

 

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So after US-Soviet Cold, time is riping in the disintegration of another monster which is eating up land/sea/air of other countries and threatning all of it's 14 odd neighbours in daily warnings and intimidation.

China was growing in power since 1950's specially after occupation of Tibet and no one cared much as it somehow fought against Axis powers(read Japan) and world was tired of WW's. Recently in last 2 decades China became the factory of the world and earned lot of $$$ and sourced it's indigenized military infra based on reverse engineering(read theft) of Russia.



We can't stay out of it completely as we did earlier. China is intimidating us for quite a while now and needs to be taught a lesson or else we would see our land grabbed again in Ladakh and NE. A land/sea/air grabber neighbor like China is not in the interest of the world specially for Asia.

Disintegration of China is now mandatory due to these reasons:-

1. Chinese arrogance and DAILY intimidation of all it's 14 odd neighbors.
2. Grabbing land/sea/air of it's neighbors.
3. Spreading Virus and death to 3,50,000* worldwide.
4. Loss of Trillions due to Virus!
5. #1 supporter of Pakistan which is the #1 terrorist creator in the world.
6. #1 supporter of DPRK which is making nukes and threatening the world peace.

A weak China would also mean a weak Pakistan and Pakistan also SHOULD disintegrate as well. Also we can't have a 2 front war danger all the time. One front to be knocked out at least!

World would like to see something like this as the outcome of this new cold war.

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In any case Tibet SHOULD be freed again as a buffer zone. Moreover India should make sure that Tibet raise a military of it's own with the help of others. They should not become parasite on India and should learn to fight and sacrifice if they really want a "Free Tibet". Enough of their Tibeti bazaar in India and useless self immolation in Tibet.

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Interesting, I found that nationalists are similar. In chinese social media, many people argue a similar question like here: How to disintergrate indian to many entities. LOL.
 

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Interesting, I found that nationalists are similar. In chinese social media, many people argue a similar question like here: How to disintergrate indian to many entities. LOL.
And what reasons do those animal d*** eating Chinese give that India should be divided?

I gave at least 6 factual answers why China is a danger to the world.

How is India danger to the world? India has a Philosophy of Vasudhaiv Kutumbakam. What is Philosophy of China? Expansionism on the skulls of humans?

Also are you Chinese? This is your first post and it tells you ass is on fire. :pound:

btw when do Chinese admit their dead soldiers?

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