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US woos India into 100-year alliance against China
Saturday, October 21, 2017 By: Asia Times Source Link: CLICK HERE






Even as the countdown begins for US President Donald Trump’s highly anticipated state visit to China, US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is heading to India next week in a delicate geopolitical balancing act.

A landmark speech Tillerson gave at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington on Wednesday, titled ‘Defining Our Relationship with India for the Next Century’, served as preamble to his visit. His remarks gave powerful optics projecting India as a ‘pivotal state’ in the US’ future regional strategies.

The US evidently hopes to pile pressure on Pakistan, which Tillerson will also visit, to cooperate in forging a negotiated settlement with the insurgent Taliban in Afghanistan and remote Pakistan territories. Tillerson’s speech also became a repartee to the triumphalist narrative of Chinese President Xi Jinping’s report at the 19th Communist Party Congress, which began in Beijing just a few hours earlier on October 18.

The Trump administration has also encouraged India to step up in Afghanistan. Tillerson outlined an intensification of cooperation with India in counterterrorism and maritime security, and held out a profound US pledge that “the world’s two greatest democracies should have the world’s two greatest militaries.”

Tillerson also signaled that the US will be leaning on India to offset China’s influence and proposed a new regional security architecture with the US, Japan, India and Australia as its main pillars. The US claims that it intends to use defense ties with India to challenge China’s rising military profile and regional influence, while also boosting its arms exports.

But Delhi has also witnessed a new type of relationship between the US and China. This is a game India, too, can clearly play, as Delhi balances its own defense ties. When Tillerson arrives in Delhi, Indian armed forces will be in the middle of a 10-day landmark military exercise with Russia, unprecedented for its involvement of all three services – army, navy and air force.

The US, meanwhile, is struggling to clinch the sale of its Predator Guardian UAVs and F-18 and F-16 fighter jets to India, while Delhi takes time to weigh its options. Again, Tillerson spoke effusively about the sale of hi-tech weapons, but never once mentioned co-production, as India does for certain weapons with Russia, leave alone any nod to ‘Make in India.’

Suffice to say, behind the high-flown American rhetoric about a bolstered strategic alliance with India, ‘America First’ very much remains the key template in Trump’s foreign policy approach.

Tillerson also singled out ‘energy cooperation’ in his speech. The US shale industry is targeting India’s rapidly growing market and American companies are keen to enter the lucrative downstream retail sector as well as secure contracts to construct pipeline grids connecting India’s far-flung regions.

Still, India will be watchful of entrapment in the US maneuvering vis-à-vis China and Pakistan. One lesson that Delhi learned from the recent border face-off with China is that there is no substitute to bilateral diplomatic and political tracks to navigate complex issues and make relationships stable and predictable.

On the other hand, US-China interdependency is a geopolitical reality, as evident from Trump’s prioritization of China (alongside key ally Japan) in the itinerary of his first Asian tour, slated to begin on November 3.

It is the nuances in the US’ approach to Pakistan, however, that Delhi will watch most closely.

Lately, the US-Pakistan relationship has become kinetic, thanks to the Pakistani military’s rescue of a Canadian-American couple held hostage for five years in the lawless Pakistan-Afghan border region, and, importantly, Islamabad’s initiative to organize a meeting of the moribund Quadrilateral Consultative Group (comprising US, China, Pakistan and Afghanistan) on October 16 in Muscat.

Pakistani army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa attended the Muscat meet. The Voice of America, for one, already senses change in Pakistani thinking. “The events have fostered some optimism about the US relationship with Pakistan… Pakistan still needs the United States on its side, as Pakistan fears India and wants continued financial aid and military material,” the US Congress-funded broadcaster reported.

A State Department official said in Washington on Wednesday, “America’s relationship with India does not come at the expense of Pakistan or vice versa. There are things that the US can do to help alleviate some of the tensions on Pakistan’s borders around Afghanistan and in India.”

The official continued: “When the president gave his remarks about Pakistan, he talked about a lot of the positive aspects of the bilateral relationship… we are having much more serious conversations about (Pakistan) being a partner for achieving our priorities in the region… We have many common interests and common enemies in the region.”

Tillerson added further nuance at the CSIS gathering, saying that the Afghanistan issue can be solved only by addressing “regional challenges” and that Pakistan and India are “important elements” in that effort. Therefore, he added, “we intend to work closely with India and with Pakistan to, we hope, ease tensions along their border as well.”

Of course, any suggestion of outside intervention in India-Pakistan border tensions will put Delhi on guard. The “border” that US officials refer to is the turbulent ‘Line of Control’ separating the regions of Kashmir under Indian and Pakistani control.

Unsurprisingly, the Foreign Ministry reaction in Delhi to Tillerson’s speech was polite but noticeably reticent, calling it “significant” for bringing out the “various strengths” of the US-Indian relationship and highlighting the two sides’ “shared commitment to a rule-based international order” and appreciating Tillerson’s “positive evaluation” of the relationship and “his optimism about its future directions.”
http://www.defencenews.in/article/US-woos-India-into-100-year-alliance-against-China-434120
 

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The US, meanwhile, is struggling to clinch the sale of its Predator Guardian UAVs and F-18 and F-16 fighter jets to India, while Delhi takes time to weigh its options. Again, Tillerson spoke effusively about the sale of hi-tech weapons, but never once mentioned co-production, as India does for certain weapons with Russia, leave alone any nod to ‘Make in India.’
We can always expect USA to do that.

Tillerson also singled out ‘energy cooperation’ in his speech. The US shale industry is targeting India’s rapidly growing market and American companies are keen to enter the lucrative downstream retail sector as well as secure contracts to construct pipeline grids connecting India’s far-flung regions.
Only sales no cooperation.USA will say anything as long as their companies are getting money.

The Trump administration has also encouraged India to step up in Afghanistan. Tillerson outlined an intensification of cooperation with India in counterterrorism and maritime security, and held out a profound US pledge that “the world’s two greatest democracies should have the world’s two greatest militaries.”
Wow!! Very beautifully put by US diplomat, which screams out loud that US dont mean to do a shit about cooperation. The world is very careful when USA is talking very beautiful english. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Unsurprisingly, the Foreign Ministry reaction in Delhi to Tillerson’s speech was polite but noticeably reticent, calling it “significant” for bringing out the “various strengths” of the US-Indian relationship and highlighting the two sides’ “shared commitment to a rule-based international order” and appreciating Tillerson’s “positive evaluation” of the relationship and “his optimism about its future directions.”
:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:
Right back at USA

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We can always expect USA to ensure that problems do exist in India and china's peripheries...and we can expect USA NOT to solve such issues.
They are very good with their media and creating a good ambiance..well!! they are masters of Hollywood..
but the yield of such US statements on ground will turn out to be nothing but rut.
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As usual, we can get USA to do some high pitched drama in Asia, with their diplomats making very frequent rounds in and out of various Asian nations.
Meanwhile, India can play the same game with USA.
India should keep the USA out of any regional issues that matter most to India's national security and deal things on OWN!! USA has a very good reputation of screwing it FUBAR for anyone.

The latest being EURAPE Episode
 

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US is no reliable partner, everyone knows that but china is the enemy of both India and the US. It is in the interest of the US to balance chinas power with India or they stand the risk of losing their position of the sole superpower of the world as the sino-russian alliance is capable enough to topple america from its current position. One has got the tech and other has got the money, the threat for the US is real.
 

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Never trust America.....

We will not benefit with this policy....

I remember reading this, but couldn't confirm, "After 1962 war, USA had used India as homebase for U2 spying operations deep inside China..."

In 1965, Pak had waged war with us using US weapons....
1971, USN brought her 7th fllet to protect Pak.
Trusting US could be one of the worst mistakes of Modi.
 

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May be usa should promise India that it will take out nukes of napakis as there is real threat to fall in the hands of isis or talibunny. And split the napakis in to 3 and provide Indian access in to europe through its west borders.

Only then India can accept true alliance from friendly nation that too with conditions.

Look Americans u cant afford to buy Indian laddoos unless u show ur results on ground. Lip service is fcuked up service we all know how it works.
 

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100 years of alliance..yes...for sure !
Military Industrial complex and their agents will do anything in their power to pit 1.25 billion Indians and 1.3 billion Chinese against each other and make them full enemies.
This will ensure 100 years of unlimited profits for Lockheeds and Boeings of the World. And, this will ensure western hegemony for next 100 years and enslavement of Indians..
If a war is instigated between India and China...who gets killed ...unimportant Asians.....in the end its white men who always wins because they have mastered the art of divide and conquer...
 

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100 years of alliance..yes...for sure !
Military Industrial complex and their agents will do anything in their power to pit 1.25 billion Indians and 1.3 billion Chinese against each other and make them full enemies.
This will ensure 100 years of unlimited profits for Lockheeds and Boeings of the World. And, this will ensure western hegemony for next 100 years and enslavement of Indians..
If a war is instigated between India and China...who gets killed ...unimportant Asians.....in the end its white men who always wins because they have mastered the art of divide and conquer...
Very well said. US is going through recession. Only way to recovery is to fuel conflicts around the world and sell arms to both sides (either directly or through proxy). In case of Indo-China conflict US and Russia gain by selling arms to both sides.

Who knows, there might be an undeclared pact between trump and Russia to benefit each other by fueling conflicts world wide. This is evident by Trump government pitching for strategic defence partnership with India and 100 year alliance against China. Did anything changed on ground? Indians are denied visas, Indians are threatened to be deported on daily basis, Indian pharmaceutical companies acted against on regular basis, India denied critical arms technology and many more issues remain the same.
 

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There is no doubt that India and US have many core values which are similar and both have been victims of Islamic terrorists. Both are democracies and open societies with freedom of speech.

So, of course, US and India are natural allies. It was hypocritical US foreign policy of support for Paki dictators
against democratic India that has been biggest thorn in relations. Now, finally ,US is correcting its foolish policy of coddling Paki who are the breeding grounds of Islamic terror. I think its a good change and India should welcome it.
My only concern is that we do not want to be in zero sum game...meaning our relation with US should not be at the cost of other friends mainly Russia and Iran. China is going to remain neutral and thats what India should want it to remain.
Paki is in slow motion decline and they can not eat their nukes if they become more and more hungry.
 

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Whether US can exist for another hundred years is a big question, in 50 years latino population will overtake the whites and Spanish can become a dominant language in US, faultline may appear along the racial and cultural lines and US may break up into multiple diverse countries.
 

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100 years of alliance..yes...for sure !
Military Industrial complex and their agents will do anything in their power to pit 1.25 billion Indians and 1.3 billion Chinese against each other and make them full enemies.
This will ensure 100 years of unlimited profits for Lockheeds and Boeings of the World. And, this will ensure western hegemony for next 100 years and enslavement of Indians..
If a war is instigated between India and China...who gets killed ...unimportant Asians.....in the end its white men who always wins because they have mastered the art of divide and conquer...
Yes, the white man always wins because the asian/african/muslim man is ready to fight each other all the time.
 

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Yes, the white man always wins because the asian/african/muslim man is ready to fight each other all the time.
WW1 and WW2 were both whties fighting whites, no one always wins, after US is gone, EU is really nothing.
 

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US woos India into 100-year alliance against China
Saturday, October 21, 2017 By: Asia Times Source Link: CLICK HERE






Even as the countdown begins for US President Donald Trump’s highly anticipated state visit to China, US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is heading to India next week in a delicate geopolitical balancing act.

A landmark speech Tillerson gave at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington on Wednesday, titled ‘Defining Our Relationship with India for the Next Century’, served as preamble to his visit. His remarks gave powerful optics projecting India as a ‘pivotal state’ in the US’ future regional strategies.

The US evidently hopes to pile pressure on Pakistan, which Tillerson will also visit, to cooperate in forging a negotiated settlement with the insurgent Taliban in Afghanistan and remote Pakistan territories. Tillerson’s speech also became a repartee to the triumphalist narrative of Chinese President Xi Jinping’s report at the 19th Communist Party Congress, which began in Beijing just a few hours earlier on October 18.

The Trump administration has also encouraged India to step up in Afghanistan. Tillerson outlined an intensification of cooperation with India in counterterrorism and maritime security, and held out a profound US pledge that “the world’s two greatest democracies should have the world’s two greatest militaries.”

Tillerson also signaled that the US will be leaning on India to offset China’s influence and proposed a new regional security architecture with the US, Japan, India and Australia as its main pillars. The US claims that it intends to use defense ties with India to challenge China’s rising military profile and regional influence, while also boosting its arms exports.

But Delhi has also witnessed a new type of relationship between the US and China. This is a game India, too, can clearly play, as Delhi balances its own defense ties. When Tillerson arrives in Delhi, Indian armed forces will be in the middle of a 10-day landmark military exercise with Russia, unprecedented for its involvement of all three services – army, navy and air force.

The US, meanwhile, is struggling to clinch the sale of its Predator Guardian UAVs and F-18 and F-16 fighter jets to India, while Delhi takes time to weigh its options. Again, Tillerson spoke effusively about the sale of hi-tech weapons, but never once mentioned co-production, as India does for certain weapons with Russia, leave alone any nod to ‘Make in India.’

Suffice to say, behind the high-flown American rhetoric about a bolstered strategic alliance with India, ‘America First’ very much remains the key template in Trump’s foreign policy approach.

Tillerson also singled out ‘energy cooperation’ in his speech. The US shale industry is targeting India’s rapidly growing market and American companies are keen to enter the lucrative downstream retail sector as well as secure contracts to construct pipeline grids connecting India’s far-flung regions.

Still, India will be watchful of entrapment in the US maneuvering vis-à-vis China and Pakistan. One lesson that Delhi learned from the recent border face-off with China is that there is no substitute to bilateral diplomatic and political tracks to navigate complex issues and make relationships stable and predictable.

On the other hand, US-China interdependency is a geopolitical reality, as evident from Trump’s prioritization of China (alongside key ally Japan) in the itinerary of his first Asian tour, slated to begin on November 3.

It is the nuances in the US’ approach to Pakistan, however, that Delhi will watch most closely.

Lately, the US-Pakistan relationship has become kinetic, thanks to the Pakistani military’s rescue of a Canadian-American couple held hostage for five years in the lawless Pakistan-Afghan border region, and, importantly, Islamabad’s initiative to organize a meeting of the moribund Quadrilateral Consultative Group (comprising US, China, Pakistan and Afghanistan) on October 16 in Muscat.

Pakistani army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa attended the Muscat meet. The Voice of America, for one, already senses change in Pakistani thinking. “The events have fostered some optimism about the US relationship with Pakistan… Pakistan still needs the United States on its side, as Pakistan fears India and wants continued financial aid and military material,” the US Congress-funded broadcaster reported.

A State Department official said in Washington on Wednesday, “America’s relationship with India does not come at the expense of Pakistan or vice versa. There are things that the US can do to help alleviate some of the tensions on Pakistan’s borders around Afghanistan and in India.”

The official continued: “When the president gave his remarks about Pakistan, he talked about a lot of the positive aspects of the bilateral relationship… we are having much more serious conversations about (Pakistan) being a partner for achieving our priorities in the region… We have many common interests and common enemies in the region.”

Tillerson added further nuance at the CSIS gathering, saying that the Afghanistan issue can be solved only by addressing “regional challenges” and that Pakistan and India are “important elements” in that effort. Therefore, he added, “we intend to work closely with India and with Pakistan to, we hope, ease tensions along their border as well.”

Of course, any suggestion of outside intervention in India-Pakistan border tensions will put Delhi on guard. The “border” that US officials refer to is the turbulent ‘Line of Control’ separating the regions of Kashmir under Indian and Pakistani control.

Unsurprisingly, the Foreign Ministry reaction in Delhi to Tillerson’s speech was polite but noticeably reticent, calling it “significant” for bringing out the “various strengths” of the US-Indian relationship and highlighting the two sides’ “shared commitment to a rule-based international order” and appreciating Tillerson’s “positive evaluation” of the relationship and “his optimism about its future directions.”
http://www.defencenews.in/article/US-woos-India-into-100-year-alliance-against-China-434120
All of these articles are written in a tone as if the US is the only player and India is only an observer on the world stage. "The US does so and so and expects India's subservience".

They can throw whatever cards they want and plant whatever stories they want in the media. We are already in the game. It's not like the game started when the US pressed a magic red button. Going by the schooling that S.Jaishankar gave the US, they should have understood that these kind of grandstanding gestures hold no water in India.

Humein kya karna hai tumhara 100 year alliance aur 100 minute alliance. We are in independent nation, we'll see where our interests lie.

India should announce a 100 year alliance against Pakistan backed terrorism and invite the US to join it. Then we'll see.
 

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WW1 and WW2 were both whties fighting whites, no one always wins, after US is gone, EU is really nothing.
My point is,even when whites fight whites like ww2 were non whites able to capitalize on it? No, in fact many non whites fought for various white countries like slaves.
 

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My point is,even when whites fight whites like ww2 were non whites able to capitalize on it? No, in fact many non whites fought for various white countries like slaves.
That's because non white countries were so weak back then, but now it's no more, overtaking them is reachable and well in sight, no one can stay on top forever.
 

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