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We are not talking about your youthful days, we are talking about today.

US played games in India too during cold war days.

If you lost the chain of my argument, plz go and check my original post which triggered this conversation.

Social media mobilisation by outside forces are the biggest threat to national security in present times. They are leading to loss of human lives everywhere.

Case in point...

Arab spring in Syria...


What I'm against is the belittling of these Iranian university protesters to automatons who follows every external stimulous. A lot of them I believe have higher IQ than you and me.
 

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I believe that on "average" most young people now are better educated than the previous generation (including my gen) although it's time that brings wisdom. So on average I would say they have better grasp of complex ideas, they have more access to information, and that naturally makes them want to be free to determine their own fates, which Iran in its current theocratic form does not allow. Access to more info also makes the current generation less susciptible to manipulations. That also makes them value more individual freedom and fairness than collective sacrifice for religion and country.
Every measurable metric points to this generation being one of the most close-minded, sensitive and scornful to ever be recorded.

What kind of dog-shit liberal talking points are you repeating you miserable 5 ft tall dog-eating imbecile??

You are just part of the cargo cult of westernization.

 

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What I'm against is the belittling of these Iranian university protesters to automatons who follows every external stimulous. A lot of them I believe have higher IQ than you and me.
Bravery is a better metric for assessing whether the high IQ will go against the prevailing narrative.

How does gay rights or the right to be a slut help the Iranian economy, cultural or military power in any way?


We should be little any one who goes against Dharma||

Especially snake, dog and beef eaters like yourself.
 

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What I'm against is the belittling of these Iranian university protesters to automatons who follows every external stimulous. A lot of them I believe have higher IQ than you and me.
And the photo is a sample of what will happen in Iran if those protests grow large.
 

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Devastation on US base attacked by Iran. Interestingly, it does appear that Americans perhaps through the Iraqis were forewarned of the attacks.


Sayellite photos of Iranian rocket impacts.

 

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This Khatwa Kusra doesn't understand the highest Abrahamics have gotten is an Army with a state.

We have Kshatra, an Army with a Religion.

He's preaching non-violence, freedom, freedom which in practice means ******s.

Consequential
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Deontological

He will never argue the practical aspects of liberal ideology ie the results or consequences.
Information about the actual aftermath of liberal SOCIAL policies is always suppressed as heresy

ie

Casteist
Sexist
Racist
Homophobic
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This Khatwa Kusra doesn't understand the highest Abrahamics have gotten is an Army with a state.

We have Kshatra, an Army with a Religion.

He's preaching non-violence, freedom, freedom which in practice means ******s.

Consequential
V.
Deontological

He will never argue the practical aspects of liberal ideology ie the results or consequences.
Information about the actual aftermath of liberal SOCIAL policies is always suppressed as heresy

ie

Casteist
Sexist
Racist
Homophobic
etc.
All Khalistanis will be disposed off in the same way Bhindanware and his bitches were.



 

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What is interesting is that US and allies are helping Iran mitigate the gravity of the tragedy in the shooting down of Ukrainian B737 by preemptively declaring the shooting down was a mistake.

Iran shot down plane by mistake with two Russian-made missiles, US official says

Australian PM says Iran plane crash "not an intentional act"

Iran used Russian SA-15 Tor SAM in shooting down the Ukrainian commercial jet. That B737 did not stand a chance.

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/iran-plane-crash-investigation/index.html



 

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Contrary to the doom and gloom reports days ago between US and Iran, is the killing of Soleimani paving the way for a US and Iran detente. Was Soleimani the spoiler in that detente?

Trump's pulling out of the nuclear deal was simply his negotiating style.

But there are too many factors that militates against this scenario like Iran and Saudi rivalry or Iran and Israel rivalry... only time will tell.

Until them good night.
 

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I explain that there is such an opportunity to work. This is another aspect; whether he acted as part of a network or worked autonomously. Departure of the flight was delayed by 1.5 hours. This, too, could add to the confusion in electronic brains. Let the investigation answer these questions, This is not my specificity.
The C&C of Iranian IADs has air traffic control hooked into it. There is no way the top of the command chain would authorise it. This was a lower level buffoon making a stupid decision based on fear.
 

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I think Trump wants to make sure none of the Neo-Con senators or Bolton break ranks. most likely, this action was done to keep them quiet. There were rumors going around that Bolton might testify in the Senate.
Also if he wins through the impeachment...it makes him a larger figure for the upcoming elections..
some nice drama.!
 

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The C&C of Iranian IADs has air traffic control hooked into it. There is no way the top of the command chain would authorise it. This was a lower level buffoon making a stupid decision based on fear.
Putin also did not plan to shoot down the Dutch side. He wanted to bring down a Russian airliner in order to create a "casus belli". However, the Russian military shot down the MН-17. This system is called "долбоёбы.". I can understand the psychology of Russians. Do you understand the psychology of the Iranian military?
 
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Iran Guards Say Missiles Did Not Aim To Kill US Troops
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

"Our aim was not really to kill enemy soldiers. That was not important," the Guards' commander, Hossein Salami, told parliament, referring to last Wednesday's missile operation launched to avenge the killing of a top Iranian general.

But they aint saying about the Ukranian!
aaaha!
 

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Iran’s only female Olympic medalist says she has defected


DUBAI: Iran’s only female Olympic medalist has said on social media she had left her homeland because she had had enough of being used by its authorities as a propaganda tool.
 

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Putin also did not plan to shoot down the Dutch side. He wanted to bring down a Russian airliner in order to create a "casus belli". However, the Russian military shot down the MН-17. This system is called "долбоёбы.". I can understand the psychology of Russians. Do you understand the psychology of the Iranian military?
There is no benefit for Iran to shoot down a plane full of Iranians. The only thing it did was cause anti-regime sentiment to hit the streets by trying to cover it up.
 

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There is no benefit for Iran to shoot down a plane full of Iranians. The only thing it did was cause anti-regime sentiment to hit the streets by trying to cover it up.
You are talking about the second part, which is called “CONSEQUENCES”. I spoke about “OPPORTUNITIES”. We do not know control the Iranian air defense system.
I am convinced that this was a tragic mistake. "So the stars came together." Anyone could be in place of the Ukrainian liner.
 

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Iraqi Prime Minster Abdul Mahdi explained:

“… I visited China and signed an important agreement with them to undertake the construction instead (of an American company). Upon my return, Trump called me to ask me to reject this agreement. When I refused, he threatened to unleash huge demonstrations against me that would end my premiership.

“Huge demonstrations against me duly materialized and Trump called again to threaten that if I did not comply with his demands, then he would have Marine snipers on tall buildings target protesters and security personnel alike in order to pressure me. I refused again and handed in my resignation. To this day the Americans insist on us rescinding our deal with the Chinese.

“After this, when our Minister of Defense publicly stated that a third party was targeting both protestors and security personnel alike (just as Trump had threatened, he would do), I received a new call from Trump threatening to kill both me and the Minister of Defense if we kept on talking about this ‘third party’.

“I was supposed to meet him [Soleimani] later in the morning when he was killed. He came to deliver a message from Iran in response to the message we had delivered to the Iranians from the Saudis (as part of a peace initiative).”

https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/trumps-killing-of-soleimani-new-worst-mistake-in-us-history/

FREEDOM
 

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