UN approves Iran sanctions

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first casualty of the sanctions is russia announcing the freezing of its sale of S 300 missiles. Interestingly the russians say they don't rule out sale of "defensive" S300 missiles at a future date. Now what the hell is a defensive SAM and an an offensive SAM?
From my experience putting "defensive" in fron of a weapon makes it sound better. Every country has a ministry of defence that is also responsible for conducting offensive operations. Game of words.

Russians aren't stupid I guess. They'll make sure they don't lose a single penny, I assure you.
 

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From my experience putting "defensive" in fron of a weapon makes it sound better. Every country has a ministry of defence that is also responsible for conducting offensive operations. Game of words.

Russians aren't stupid I guess. They'll make sure they don't lose a single penny, I assure you.
Yes that's right but then it has to make sense. A SAM is a defensive weapon. What does russia mean by freezing sale of a SAM system and then say it will supply defensive SAMs when it sees fit. Either you are giving or not.
 

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Yeah, it's funny, I know. The real funny thing is - some people will be subliminaly soothed by the statement: "we will give Iran defensive SAMs, but not offensive SAMs".
Just ridiculous...
If Russians had the gutts to supply S-300 to Iran, they would've done it already. What's keeping them, if not pressure from the West? Less talkie, more supplyie...
 

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What is Russia Talking!!!!!!!


Russia threatens payback if Iran sanctions affect its interests
The Russian Foreign Ministry warned on Wednesday of retaliatory measures if new sanctions against Iran affected Russian companies or individuals.


http://en.rian.ru/russia/20100609/159365818.html

Russia freezes sale of S-300 missiles to Iran: report

MOSCOW, June 10 (Xinhua) -- Russia said Thursday it would freeze the sale of S-300 air defense systems to Iran in line with new U.N. sanctions against Iran adopted a day earlier.
However, confusion has arisen with contrary statements on the same day by a parliamentary leader.
"The U.N. Security Council's resolutions are mandatory for all countries. Russia is no exception here. Naturally, the contract for the delivery of S-300 missile systems to Tehran will be frozen," the Interfax news agency quoted a source as saying.
However, the report appeared to be contradicted by the head of the International Committee of Russia's State Duma, Konstantin Kosachyov, who said Russia could still fulfill its commitment for the delivery.
"Eight items have been added to the list of armaments liable for sanctions. However, there are no defensive systems, such as S-300 missiles, on the list," said Kosachyov.
Iran struck a deal with Russia to buy S-300 systems in 2007, but Russia has delayed the delivery of the anti-aircraft missiles.
Meanwhile, Kosachyov said the new sanctions would not affect ties between Moscow and Tehran. "The resolution has no direct effect on Russia," he said, "The resolution clearly tells Iran that there is still a possibility of dialogue on certain terms."
This view, however, was not shared by Radzhab Safarov, Director of the Russian Center for Contemporary Iranian Studies. Safarov said Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's withdrawal from the Tashkent summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and the delay of the Iranian oil minister's visit to Russia could indicate Iran was unhappy with Moscow's support for the latest sanctions.
"Under earlier plans, the Iranian oil minister was to visit Moscow on June 22. A letter has arrived today, saying that the visit has been indefinitely postponed. Clearly enough, it was a diplomatic wording for a refusal," Safarov said.
The S-300 air defense system is an advanced mobile system that can shoot down aircraft and cruise missiles from up to 150 km away.
The United States and Israel oppose the sale of the missiles to Iran.
The U.N. Security Council Wednesday adopted a resolution to impose a fourth round of sanctions against Iran over its suspected nuclear weapons program.
The resolution was approved by the 15-member Council with a vote of 12 in favor. Brazil and Turkey voted against it while Lebanon abstained.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-06/10/c_13343643.htm

i dont understand what is Russia's view!!!
Is it Supporting or against it???
 

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I doubt they have a single view at all. They want to sell, that's obvious, but there's pressure on them too, one that I believe we don't see in the news. The Cold War is over, and there's only one superpower in the world now. If you don't want to be it's target, better not try anything silly...
Anyway, I believe that many countries (including some large and important ones like, for example, some BRIC states), partially support Iran in everything it does against the US, simply because they want to challenge US world hegemony. But Iran actually has no real and devoted support it sorely needs - without a wholehearted support from at least Russia or China, it cannot survive under the pressure of US and it's array of power extensions.
 

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What is Russia Talking!!!!!!!
i dont understand what is Russia's view!!!
Is it Supporting or against it???
What they are talking is they do not want the sanctions to effect their business opportunities in Iran. They are arguing whether S-300 is a banned weapon system and afraid they will lose more deals. Bottom line is S-300 for Iran is off the table as it contains components that can be used in ballistic missiles. Anything that could have the slightest dual use with ballistic missiles is banned. They have already converted the S-75 into an SRBM.
 

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Well then, these sanctions will be very short lived - just until Russians want to start the sale.
 

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Well then, these sanctions will be very short lived - just until Russians want to start the sale.
Russia cannot afford to break the sanctions or their companies will be sanctioned themselves. That is what they are worried about. Critical Western technologies they are trying to acquire would be withheld and their economic transformation from backwards Soviet to modern economy would be halted.
 

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UAC received notice U.S. almost prohibiting transfers to Iran of Tu-204 with U.S. components

BERLIN, June 9. (ARMS-TASS). United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) has received notification United States, virtually prohibiting the delivery to Iran of Tu-204 "in the engines that use components of the American Motor Company, Pratt & Whitney.

According to the International Air Show ILA-2010 KLA President Alexey Fedorov, "we have received from the company's Pratt & Whitney, an official letter, virtually prohibiting the supply of Tu-204 in Iran."

According to him, "we now examine the question of possible supply of aircraft without U.S. components.

The contract for delivery of five Tu-204SM concluded between the Russian company Ilyushin Finance and Iran Air, Iran Air Tour. The airliner is equipped with an engine PS-90A2, created Permian Aviadvigatel in collaboration with Pratt & Whitney. If your problem is not resolved, the possible negative consequences for the program Tu-204SM not be limited to disruption of the contract to supply Iran with five machines. As it known, OAO Tupolev and the KLA were actively negotiating to sell Iran the license to produce 100 medium-range Tu-204 for 3 billion dollars. At the same time, the potential demand for the aircraft without the Iranian deal was estimated in 2009 to 150 units.

http://army.lv/ru/tu-204sm/901/25001
 

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Sarkozy Pursuades Putin to back away from Iran missile deal


Vladimir Putin and Nicolas Sarkozy Mr Putin held talks with President Sarkozy at the Elysee Palace

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has said Moscow will freeze the sale of surface-to-air missiles to Iran, according to French officials.

Mr Putin made the comments in talks with French President Nicolas Sarkozy in Paris, the officials said.

In an apparent change of direction by Moscow, Russia's foreign minister said President Dmitry Medvedev will decree which weapons cannot be sold to Iran.

Sergey Lavrov earlier said the missiles were not subject to fresh UN sanctions.

Russia agreed to supply Iran with S-300 systems several years ago but has not delivered them.

Mr Lavrov said on Thursday that a fourth round of sanctions imposed by the UN Security Council this week would not affect Russia's contract to supply Iran with the missiles.

But on Friday he said: "According to our practice, the UN Security Council resolution is implemented through decrees issued by the Russian president. A decree to this effect will be prepared."

Correspondents say a flurry of statements by officials on Friday suggest Moscow is changing tack on the missile deal.
Iran 'unhappy'

President Sarkozy's office said on Friday Mr Putin had confirmed Russia would shelve the delivery.

A spokesman for Mr Sarkozy quoted the Russian leader as saying Iran was "very unhappy" and wanted to impose penalties on Moscow.

Mr Sarkozy praised the Russian leadership for supporting the sanctions during a meeting with Mr Putin at the Elysee place.
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"It is an extremely courageous measure that will cost Russia a lot," he told Mr Putin, according to the spokesman.

Military experts say the S-300 systems could enhance Iran's defence of its nuclear facilities against attack from the air.

The White House acknowledged on Thursday that the latest sanctions did not explicitly ban the S-300 sale to Iran, but it welcomed Russia's "restraint" in not delivering them.

"Russia has exercised responsibility, restraint and has not delivered those missiles to Iran," state department spokesman Philip Crowley said.

Iran insists its nuclear enrichment programme is for peaceful purposes, but a number of Western countries suspect it of trying to build nuclear weapons.

The UN Security Council voted by 12 votes to two in favour of fresh sanctions on Wednesday. Brazil and Turkey voted against, while Lebanon abstained.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has denounced the new UN resolutions saying they were like a "used handkerchief which should be thrown in the dustbin. They are not capable of hurting Iranians".

Mr Lavrov said on Thursday that Moscow is discussing building nuclear reactors in Iran in addition to the Bushehr site, due to open in August after years of delay.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/10298071.stm
 

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U.S. in a foreign policy corner on Iran​


Neither U.N. punishment nor Obama's attempt at engagement has helped.

By Doyle McManus
June 13, 2010



Last week, after 16 months of relentless effort, President Obama finally achieved one of his major foreign policy objectives: a United Nations Security Council resolution imposing stronger economic sanctions on Iran.

But it wasn't much of a victory. The resolution wasn't unanimous, which diluted its intended message. And the sanctions themselves are modest, watered down to secure support from Russia and China. Even Obama isn't promising much. "We know that the Iranian government will not change its behavior overnight," he said in a muted victory statement, "but [the U.N.] vote demonstrates the growing costs that will come with Iranian intransigence."

If sanctions are unlikely to produce rapid change in Iran, neither has the administration's other approach: engagement. When Obama entered office, critics mocked his offer to Iran of an outstretched hand as starry-eyed. But he made it clear all along that he didn't expect engagement to bear instant results. That's why he opted for a "two-track" policy: both engagement and sanctions.

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The problem is that neither track has shown any visible sign of success. The problem of Iran is worse than it was a year ago. Back then, Iran's uranium enrichment program was small and struggling; now, U.N. experts say, Iran has produced enough enriched uranium for two nuclear weapons (although it's still many steps away from actually building bombs). Back then, the regime of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was about to come under siege from a swelling democracy movement; now the "green movement" has grown dispirited under the weight of relentless repression. Instead of engaging with the West, Iran's rulers appear to have concluded that defiance works.

Those setbacks have forced the Obama administration to look for new options. It is not abandoning the two tracks of sanctions and engagement, but it has added two new tracks in hopes of finding something that works. It's a messier, more improvisational approach.

One new track is long term: democracy-building. After initial hesitation, the administration has quietly increased its indirect support for Iran's democracy movement — very quietly, because the U.S. wants to avoid tainting the dissidents with charges of foreign sponsorship. Most of the help has come in the form of increased hours of Persian-language radio and television broadcasting into Iran, and in export permits for U.S.-made software to help Iranians evade their government's efforts to block or punish Internet use. But that's long term; nobody — not even the green movement — expects Ahmadinejad to be toppled soon.

The fourth track, which may be the most important right now, is short term: delay. If the United States and its allies can't stop Iran's uranium enrichment program, they hope to at least find a way to slow it down — to buy time. Although Iran has rejected a U.S. offer that would allow it to swap enriched uranium for medical isotopes, the U.S. is trying to marshal diplomatic pressure, especially from Russia and China, to persuade Ahmadinejad to slow his country's progress toward nuclear weapons. The administration has enticed a handful of Iranian nuclear scientists to defect, officials say. And they hint that efforts have been stepped up to sabotage Iran's nuclear program by supplying it with defective equipment. (Indeed, Iran's laboratories have run into technical problems, but experts outside the government say it's impossible to know whether that's because of foreign sabotage or simple mismanagement.)

It's too early to know whether these efforts will bear fruit, but meanwhile, there's more the United States can do. Last year, Congress authorized a $55-million program to increase broadcasting and Internet access in Iran, but it didn't appropriate the money to pay for it. Some Iranian activists say the most useful thing the administration could do is to allow Iranians to buy U.S.-made satellite modems, currently banned under sanctions rules.

Ali Akbar Mousavi Khoeini, a former member of Iran's parliament and now a visiting scholar at Stanford, made another suggestion in a visit to Washington last week: The United States, he proposed, should announce that it has no intention of attacking Iran, even if the Tehran government builds a nuclear weapon. "Any kind of military act against Iran should be set aside," he said. "This option should be taken off the table and set aside so we can move toward the goal of supporting the green movement."

Administration officials aren't likely to make such an assurance, since they believe the implicit threat of military action keeps pressure on Iran. But they acknowledge that they desperately want to avoid a military strike. They think an attack would not end Iran's nuclear program, and would almost surely have disastrous side effects in Iran and the region around it.

Obama and his aides are in a foreign policy corner that is all too familiar. Their strategy toward Iran hasn't worked. It's not clear that it can. But so far no one has proposed an alternative that promises better.
 

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EU tightens sanctions over Iran nuclear programme

EU foreign ministers have adopted tougher sanctions targeting Iran's energy sector, in an effort to block its controversial nuclear programme.

There are new restrictions on foreign trade, financial services and the oil and gas sectors - the backbone of Iran's economy.

Officials said the package was "by some way the most far-reaching sanctions adopted by the EU against any country".

The move comes a month after the US strengthened its own sanctions on Iran.

The US and its allies accuse Tehran of seeking to develop nuclear weapons. Iran insists its nuclear programme is solely for peaceful purposes.

Last month the UN Security Council approved a fourth round of sanctions against Iran over its nuclear programme, which directly target the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

The Revolutionary Guards are involved in many industries, including car manufacturing and clothing, and control one-third or more of the economy.

The EU is banning the export to Iran of key equipment and technology for refining and for the exploration and production of natural gas.

New European investment in major sectors of the Iranian economy will also be banned. There will be restrictions on sales to Iran of any goods which could potentially have military applications.

Ships will be inspected if they are suspected of carrying illegal material.

There is expected to be tight scrutiny of Iranian banks operating in the EU. Any money transfers of more than 10,000 euros (£8,340) will have to be notified to national authorities, and amounts above 40,000 euros will require prior authorisation.

More than 40 individuals and more than 50 companies will be blacklisted.

Iranian warning
On Sunday, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned the European Union against imposing sanctions, saying his country would cause it to "regret" the move.

Mr Ahmadinejad said that anyone who adopted hostile measures "should know that Iran will react swiftly".

But there are also signs the Iranians may agree to talk as early as September, says the BBC's Europe editor Gavin Hewitt in Brussels.

Meanwhile a senior US official has told the BBC that sanctions against Iran are having a dramatic effect as private companies around the world refuse to do business with Tehran.

"We're seeing a lot of companies decline to invest in Iran's infrastructure and that is, when you think about it, one of the most important variables. Because, if they're unable to attract this investment, then long term their economy is in a very difficult situation," he said.

Speaking in Brussels on Monday, Sweden's Foreign Minister Carl Bildt said the EU was pursuing "a double-track policy" towards Iran.

"I have yet to meet anyone who thinks that this issue is going to be sorted out by sanctions... alone. So I think that we'll have to look at the different ways in which we can strengthen and emphasise the diplomatic track and there are, I hope, some possibilities along that road."

EXPECTED EU SANCTIONS
* Ban on exports to Iran of key equipment for oil and gas industry
* New restrictions on Iranian banks' operations in EU, including insurance deals
* Ban on transfer of equipment that could have military uses
* Ban on Iranian cargo flights to EU, inspections of ships


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-10758328
 

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