UK and the Rise of Radical Islam

dhananjay1

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So they are not a security threat? No patriot laws in UK I guess?
What about their human rights? Their lives are in danger if sent back to Syria. They should be provided all the accommodation in UK including house, welfare, medicare, psychiatric support. They should also be provided police protection from racists and islamophobes. Also they should be allowed freedom of speech if they speak against UK and christianity. After all what difference would there be between Myanmar and UK if they don't uphold human rights of citizens not liked by majority.
 

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VIDEO: French Police attacked entering a Muslim no go zone!


Since when France belongs to UK :eek1:

I have no idea about what is happening on this video. Perhaps a drug traffic related incident. Does not even look like a no go zone ... at least I had a different idea of what a no go zone looks like.

Anyway’ French Army is training all year to prepare future conflict in such no go zones ( if needs arises). We have a training facility known as Cenzub for urban warfare , a mock-up town . Our British neighbours know it well since they happen to train there at times.

 

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Since when France belongs to UK :eek1:

I have no idea about what is happening on this video. Perhaps a drug traffic related incident. Does not even look like a no go zone ... at least I had a different idea of what a no go zone looks like.

Anyway’ French Army is training all year to prepare future conflict in such no go zones ( if needs arises). We have a training facility known as Cenzub for urban warfare , a mock-up town . Our British neighbours know it well since they happen to train there at times.

@Tactical Frog that's how no go zones are formed.

The problem for French army to enter these zones would be difficult. Much difficult than police. If that was an army vehicle, then I bet few shot would have been fired. Atleast one person would be injured/killed, this is enough for the scum behind these no go zones would come on to national; hell even to international media and cry foul about the army and french govt. French Govt will be on backfoot, opposition will see this as a good opportunity to bash the ruling party. Ruling party will bow down to save the embarrassment and for vote share of next elections.

You don't wanna know what army will face in these no go zones. Yo wouldn't wanna know how soldiers deployed in these zonse feel.....trust me. What you've seen in the video is not even the tip of iceberg. If there are no "no go zones", then France is lucky.
 

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...rrorism-defence-secretary-gavin-a8096391.html

Britons who join Isis should never be allowed to return to UK, says Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson

jihadis can come and go freely??
Dont use the term Jihadists for ISIS. They are pure Baathists and they are secular, far from religion. Britian has to extradite more than 60 violaters to Republic of India.

During British Prime Minister Theresa May's visit in November last year, the Indian government handed over a list of 60 most-wanted fugitives who are currently under UK's refuge.

Cases in which India has not been successful include those of Ravi Sankaran (accused in the Indian Navy war room leak case), Tiger Hanif (wanted in connection with two bomb attacks in Gujarat in 1993), music director Nadeem Saifi (accused and acquitted in the Gulshan Kumar murder case), and some individuals related to the Khalistan movement
 

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http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/wo...ritains-anti-terror-police-chief-2510705.html

Indian-origin officer may become Britain's anti-terror police chief
Nothing can change in UK until they have Pakistani origin men at top positions including Mayor of London. If you can recall, instead of acting against terrorists, he said similar activities keep happening in big cities. This must have encouraged terrorist ideologies to prosper in UK and such terrorists attacks are now New normal in UK.

UK was known for Christianity and now it is known for Islam. If they are really serious, they should follow example set by China in dealing with Islam and still several Muslim countries treat China as a saviour. Let's the whole world follow Chinese practice of dealing radical Islam.
 

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British Nationalists preparing for 'war against Islam', report warns after terror plots exposed

Far-right extremists
are preparing for what they believe is a “war against Islam”, a report has warned in the wake of police alerts over attempted attacks.

Hope Not Hate’s annual report forecast further violence emanating from various factions following the Finsbury Park terror attack on Muslims and neo-Nazi murder of Labour MP Jo Cox.

Nick Lowles, chief executive of the campaign group, said that with the combination of “civil war” rhetoric and growing online hatred, “we must be prepared for more terrorist plots and use of extreme violence from the far-right for the foreseeable future”.

“There is a huge spectrum of people but they all believe in this coming conflict,” he told The Independent.

“Some say the only way to stop it is by people like themselves doing something about it, because they believe the state has allowed this to happen through multiculturalism and integration.”

Mr Lowles said a smaller number of extremists believe a war against Muslims “needs to happen” so they can be expelled from Europe.

He was speaking days after Mark Rowley, the outgoing head of UK counter-terror policing, revealed that four far-right terror plots had been foiled since the Westminster attack in March 2017

Mr Rowley said 10 Islamist plots were foiled in the same period, warning that both sides were “executing a common strategy” by exploiting existing grievances in target communities, generating distrust of state institutions and then “offering warped parallel alternatives”.

A record number of people are being arrested for suspected terror offences in the UK, with 28 suspects detained for far-right-inspired crimes in 2017 according to Hope Not Hate’s count.
The vast majority of terror suspects are alleged Islamists, but the number of white suspects has rocketed and far-right extremists make up more than a quarter of those going through the Government’s Channel counter-radicalisation programme.

Hope Not Hate said that while anti-Semitism is still pervasive in the far-right, recent years have seen traditionally fractured groups rally around specifically anti-Muslim ideas in the wake of 9/11 and Isis terror attacks.

Its report said that the view of Islam itself as a threat had spread into the mainstream and the general British population, with more than half of respondents in a public poll taking the position and 42 per cent saying their distrust of Muslims had grown after last-year’s Isis-inspired attacks.

“With increasingly negative views towards British Muslims – and Islam more generally – there is a growing pool of possible recruits for the far right and, with some now having huge social media platforms, they now have ways to reach people that were unimaginable in the past,” researchers found.

Prominent right-wing figures including American commentator Ann Coulter, ex-Breitbart writer Milo Yiannopoulos, Infowars editor Paul Joseph Watson, EDL founder Tommy Robinson (real name Stephen Lennon), and former newspaper columnist Katie Hopkins are reaching millions of people through their social media posts and videos.

“While these people are not directly inciting violence, it is the logical conclusion of their rhetoric,” Mr Lowles said.

“With the upsurge in terrorism coupled with the growth of far-right online and their ability to spread their poison to far larger numbers than ever before, we shouldn’t be surprised that people act on it.”

One example is Darren Osborne, the far-right terrorist who was jailed for life after ploughing a van into Muslim worshippers in Finsbury Park, killing one victim and injuring several others.

Records presented to the jury showed that the father-of-four started gorging on material from sources including the far-right party Britain First and Robinsonafter watching a BBC documentary on grooming gangs.

Police said the 48-year-old became radicalised in just three to four weeks, as he read messages including an automated email from Robinson’s Rebel Media website claiming a “nation within a nation was forming just beneath the surface of the UK”.

All have seen followers and views spike in the wake of Isis-inspired massacres, with campaigners accusing the far-right of “exploiting terror attacks for its own benefit”.

Because most of the material posted by high-profile figures cannot be proven to call for violence, it has mostly evaded criminal law and guidelines on social media sites.

“The government and politicians refuse to take the necessary steps to keep us safe,” said the message, which was calling for supporters to join a march.

“It has now been left to us, the ordinary people of the United Kingdom to stand up to hate, to unite and in one voice say ‘no more’.”

Osborne planned his attack after reading tweets from anonymous posters calling on people to “fight”, while a note left in the van claimed “Islam’s ideology doesn’t belong here”.

Following previous warnings about online radicalisation by Isis and other Islamist groups, police said “individuals could look at material today and decide to go and do an attack later on this evening”.

Last month, a Britain First supporter was jailed for trying to mow down the owner of an Indian restaurant after saying he was going to “kill a Muslim”, while a neo-Nazi was convicted ofplanning to attack a gay pride event and a Hitler-obsessive was imprisoned forthreatening to petrol bomb mosques in revenge for the Manchester attack.

Several terror cases involving suspected neo-Nazis are progressing through courts, including alleged plots to attack Downing Street and assassinate a Labour MP with a machete.

The 2018 State of Hate report named numerous active groups of neo-Nazis, white supremacists, Holocaust deniers and figures on the so-called alt-right, which is based in America.
The Government took action against the neo-Nazi group National Action by banning it as a terrorist organisation in 2016, sparking waves of arrests, but members split into renamed national factions to evade the law.

While British street movements like the EDL, National Front and British National Party (BNP) have declined, Britain First enjoys more followers on Facebook than any mainstream political party and new movements have arrived in the UK.

One is the pan-European Generation Identity, which claims it wants to preserve the “ethnocultural identity of Europe” – perceived to be white and Christian – and believes “indigenous” Europeans are being replaced by Muslims and migrants.

A growing faction of the far-right is defined as “counter-jihaders”, who are not part of the wider movement but define themselves specifically against Islam and dominantly act online rather than as part of real-world groups.

An exception is the failed Ukip leadership candidate Ann Marie Waters, who attempted to continue the momentum of her campaign by launching an anti-Islam party called For Britain.

Researchers highlighted the risk of far-right influence shifting extremist ideas into the mainstream, warning: “We risk society being changed by thousands of people gnawing away at it.”

“Something has to be done with people who deliberately incite hatred against a group because that clearly is going to end up inciting trouble and the Government has to do much more not just to take action but to speak out against it,” Mr Lowles said.

“The concern is that we could see tit-for-tat violence, which can spiral out of control very quickly.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...my-robinson-national-action-a8235556.html?amp
 

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British Nationalists preparing for 'war against Islam', report warns after terror plots exposed

Far-right extremists
are preparing for what they believe is a “war against Islam”, a report has warned in the wake of police alerts over attempted attacks.

Hope Not Hate’s annual report forecast further violence emanating from various factions following the Finsbury Park terror attack on Muslims and neo-Nazi murder of Labour MP Jo Cox.

Nick Lowles, chief executive of the campaign group, said that with the combination of “civil war” rhetoric and growing online hatred, “we must be prepared for more terrorist plots and use of extreme violence from the far-right for the foreseeable future”.

“There is a huge spectrum of people but they all believe in this coming conflict,” he told The Independent.

“Some say the only way to stop it is by people like themselves doing something about it, because they believe the state has allowed this to happen through multiculturalism and integration.”

Mr Lowles said a smaller number of extremists believe a war against Muslims “needs to happen” so they can be expelled from Europe.

He was speaking days after Mark Rowley, the outgoing head of UK counter-terror policing, revealed that four far-right terror plots had been foiled since the Westminster attack in March 2017

Mr Rowley said 10 Islamist plots were foiled in the same period, warning that both sides were “executing a common strategy” by exploiting existing grievances in target communities, generating distrust of state institutions and then “offering warped parallel alternatives”.

A record number of people are being arrested for suspected terror offences in the UK, with 28 suspects detained for far-right-inspired crimes in 2017 according to Hope Not Hate’s count.
The vast majority of terror suspects are alleged Islamists, but the number of white suspects has rocketed and far-right extremists make up more than a quarter of those going through the Government’s Channel counter-radicalisation programme.

Hope Not Hate said that while anti-Semitism is still pervasive in the far-right, recent years have seen traditionally fractured groups rally around specifically anti-Muslim ideas in the wake of 9/11 and Isis terror attacks.

Its report said that the view of Islam itself as a threat had spread into the mainstream and the general British population, with more than half of respondents in a public poll taking the position and 42 per cent saying their distrust of Muslims had grown after last-year’s Isis-inspired attacks.

“With increasingly negative views towards British Muslims – and Islam more generally – there is a growing pool of possible recruits for the far right and, with some now having huge social media platforms, they now have ways to reach people that were unimaginable in the past,” researchers found.

Prominent right-wing figures including American commentator Ann Coulter, ex-Breitbart writer Milo Yiannopoulos, Infowars editor Paul Joseph Watson, EDL founder Tommy Robinson (real name Stephen Lennon), and former newspaper columnist Katie Hopkins are reaching millions of people through their social media posts and videos.

“While these people are not directly inciting violence, it is the logical conclusion of their rhetoric,” Mr Lowles said.

“With the upsurge in terrorism coupled with the growth of far-right online and their ability to spread their poison to far larger numbers than ever before, we shouldn’t be surprised that people act on it.”

One example is Darren Osborne, the far-right terrorist who was jailed for life after ploughing a van into Muslim worshippers in Finsbury Park, killing one victim and injuring several others.

Records presented to the jury showed that the father-of-four started gorging on material from sources including the far-right party Britain First and Robinsonafter watching a BBC documentary on grooming gangs.

Police said the 48-year-old became radicalised in just three to four weeks, as he read messages including an automated email from Robinson’s Rebel Media website claiming a “nation within a nation was forming just beneath the surface of the UK”.

All have seen followers and views spike in the wake of Isis-inspired massacres, with campaigners accusing the far-right of “exploiting terror attacks for its own benefit”.

Because most of the material posted by high-profile figures cannot be proven to call for violence, it has mostly evaded criminal law and guidelines on social media sites.

“The government and politicians refuse to take the necessary steps to keep us safe,” said the message, which was calling for supporters to join a march.

“It has now been left to us, the ordinary people of the United Kingdom to stand up to hate, to unite and in one voice say ‘no more’.”

Osborne planned his attack after reading tweets from anonymous posters calling on people to “fight”, while a note left in the van claimed “Islam’s ideology doesn’t belong here”.

Following previous warnings about online radicalisation by Isis and other Islamist groups, police said “individuals could look at material today and decide to go and do an attack later on this evening”.

Last month, a Britain First supporter was jailed for trying to mow down the owner of an Indian restaurant after saying he was going to “kill a Muslim”, while a neo-Nazi was convicted ofplanning to attack a gay pride event and a Hitler-obsessive was imprisoned forthreatening to petrol bomb mosques in revenge for the Manchester attack.

Several terror cases involving suspected neo-Nazis are progressing through courts, including alleged plots to attack Downing Street and assassinate a Labour MP with a machete.

The 2018 State of Hate report named numerous active groups of neo-Nazis, white supremacists, Holocaust deniers and figures on the so-called alt-right, which is based in America.
The Government took action against the neo-Nazi group National Action by banning it as a terrorist organisation in 2016, sparking waves of arrests, but members split into renamed national factions to evade the law.

While British street movements like the EDL, National Front and British National Party (BNP) have declined, Britain First enjoys more followers on Facebook than any mainstream political party and new movements have arrived in the UK.

One is the pan-European Generation Identity, which claims it wants to preserve the “ethnocultural identity of Europe” – perceived to be white and Christian – and believes “indigenous” Europeans are being replaced by Muslims and migrants.

A growing faction of the far-right is defined as “counter-jihaders”, who are not part of the wider movement but define themselves specifically against Islam and dominantly act online rather than as part of real-world groups.

An exception is the failed Ukip leadership candidate Ann Marie Waters, who attempted to continue the momentum of her campaign by launching an anti-Islam party called For Britain.

Researchers highlighted the risk of far-right influence shifting extremist ideas into the mainstream, warning: “We risk society being changed by thousands of people gnawing away at it.”

“Something has to be done with people who deliberately incite hatred against a group because that clearly is going to end up inciting trouble and the Government has to do much more not just to take action but to speak out against it,” Mr Lowles said.

“The concern is that we could see tit-for-tat violence, which can spiral out of control very quickly.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...my-robinson-national-action-a8235556.html?amp
"Hope Not Hate" :rotfl: pretentious, self-serving titles they give themselves.
 

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