Turkish defense industry news updates

[jai jaganath]

Remember my dear, you keep on replying and you were supposedly an old member. LOL!

I have mentioned in one of my post regarding this
May @mods will be able to do the needful

 

[Nazaria e Bakistan]

I have mentioned in one of my post regarding this
May @mods will be able to do the needful

Does not still explain your replies.

 

[Nazaria e Bakistan]

@Indx TechStyle May I request you to move the non Turkish Aviation news updates and discussion on Danger of Turkish drones to this thread? https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/deadly-danger-of-advanced-turkish-drones-on-iaf.83783/

Posts are #1179 to #1222. If you are not the Mod responsible for this part of forum, tag the mod who can do that.

 

[Gyyan]

Given how popular Turkey is in drones market, I do not see a reason why they will not pick up the market that should have gone to Russian drones. Russia is not going to field drones anytime soon.

Once they start selling this drone in numbers, it is likely many countries will buy them. If not for anything else then for a poor-man's stealth fighter. Not a 5th gen but surely a LO fighter. If they sell it in numbers you will have scale of economies.

I said so for two reasons first no of flankers which is well over 800 even for poor mans stealth fighter that's a huge number also the price quoted for su75 was 25-30 million who would buy a poor attempt oor man's stealth fighter when you can buy a poor mans stealth fighter if available.
(Not calling the kizillema a poor attempt or poor mans stealth fighter as a scorn but because it's a drone and in context of your statement same for su75)
Now drones lack the survivability of a fighter jet they save human lives but are more vulnerable than fighter so that's a the negatives of it.
The rich countries wont buy it because the sheer no of fifth gen present in market for export from f-35 b4 to tfx bk3(?)to kf21blk3 to Chinese gyrfalcon though costlier but are better with the gyrfalcon available with TOT.
For the poor they wouldnt want something that gives capability(even if top tier) but is less survivable.

 

[Gyyan]

I said so for two reasons first no of flankers which is well over 800 even for poor mans stealth fighter that's a huge number also the price quoted for su75 was 25-30 million who would buy a poor attempt oor man's stealth fighter when you can buy a poor mans stealth fighter if available.
(Not calling the kizillema a poor attempt or poor mans stealth fighter as a scorn but because it's a drone and in context of your statement same for su75)
Now drones lack the survivability of a fighter jet they save human lives but are more vulnerable than fighter so that's a the negatives of it.
The rich countries wont buy it because the sheer no of fifth gen present in market for export from f-35 b4 to tfx bk3(?)to kf21blk3 to Chinese gyrfalcon though costlier but are better with the gyrfalcon available with TOT.
For the poor they wouldnt want something that gives capability(even if top tier) but is less survivable.

It will have exports with maybe countries like poland pak and Bangladesh but not at the level of something f-35 Or flankers anyway I could be horribly wrong as no one knows the future let's see.

 

[Nazaria e Bakistan]

I said so for two reasons first no of flankers which is well over 800 even for poor mans stealth fighter that's a huge number also the price quoted for su75 was 25-30 million who would buy a poor attempt oor man's stealth fighter when you can buy a poor mans stealth fighter if available.
(Not calling the kizillema a poor attempt or poor mans stealth fighter as a scorn but because it's a drone and in context of your statement same for su75)
Now drones lack the survivability of a fighter jet they save human lives but are more vulnerable than fighter so that's a the negatives of it.
The rich countries wont buy it because the sheer no of fifth gen present in market for export from f-35 b4 to tfx bk3(?)to kf21blk3 to Chinese gyrfalcon though costlier but are better with the gyrfalcon available with TOT.
For the poor they wouldnt want something that gives capability(even if top tier) but is less survivable.

It will have exports with maybe countries like poland pak and Bangladesh but not at the level of something f-35 Or flankers anyway I could be horribly wrong as no one knows the future let's see.

Lets take this discussion to a dedicated thread. I have created one : https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/deadly-danger-of-advanced-turkish-drones-on-iaf.83783/

I asked one of the Mods to move all related posts to that thread but lets see when they get a chance.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

 

[rodeo]

CENK MRBM

 

[rodeo]

Video of one of the tests of AKKOR APS(The active protection system used on ALTAY MBT, developed by ASELSAN)

 

[rodeo]

MURAD AESA(currently in testing on AKINCI)

 

[rodeo]

Hürjet Documentary has been released.It has English subtitles. The video includes the assembly, the iron bird, various testing procedures, the unexpected problems, the solutons, the first flight etc. A must watch.

 

[jai jaganath]

***VOLUME WARNING***

Wrong thread

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Wrong thread

Oh yea it's not the TFX. Can't even tell the difference

 

[rodeo]

KTJ Series Engines by Kale Arge.

The turbojet engines that power our cruise missiles:

 

[rodeo]

Ismail Demir(President of Defense Secretariat):

"We will launch 100kg satellite to 300km orbit next year. We're building a launch site to "İğneada, Kırklareli" to conduct the launches. The Mission control center and a production site is being built on Kefken island. Pending on the success of this launch, we will launch 1.5ton satellite to 700km altitude orbit two years later(2026)."

 

[Gyyan]

Indonesia seals $300 million deal to buy drones from Türkiye's TAI

Indonesia on Tuesday announced it had bought drones from a prominent Turkish defense manufacturer, marking the latest in a series of purchases aimed at...

www.dailysabah.com

 

[Tshering22]

Ismail Demir(President of Defense Secretariat):

"We will launch a 100kg satellite into 300km orbit next year. We're building a launch site to "İğneada, Kırklareli" to conduct the launches. The Mission control center and a production site are being built on Kefken Island. Pending on the success of this launch, we will launch a 1.5ton satellite to 700km altitude orbit two years later(2026)."

All the best. Is Kefken island your first spaceport?

It is quite impressive that despite so many economic challenges you are able to fund so many critical defence and aerospace projects simultaneously, fully cognizant that one day they would yield results. I hope that your president sees the error of his decisions of the past and we can have an amicable relationship in the future.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Turkish Offerings​

Tried a bit to make sense of the Turkish defence industry. This list is in no way exhaustive, there are many things that are missing. (like Akkor APS)

It basically lists a specific category and the Turkish offering in that. It also list the status, together with the number of countries it has been exported to.

NOTE
1. Items purely in concept or mock-up phase like Aircraft Carrier have been left regarding their uncertainty.
2. All the items that can't be exported like those under MCTR Regime are omitted in this list.
3. This list intentionally skips obvious systems like ammunition, unguided rockets, ballistic protection, fuzes, etc.
4. Systems primarily for civilian market or used in very small numbers or systems about to retire are omitted despite the possibility of export to keep the list concise.

 

[Fatalis]

Turkish Offerings​

Tried a bit to make sense of the Turkish defence industry. This list is in no way exhaustive, there are many things that are missing. (like Akkor APS)

It basically lists a specific category and the Turkish offering in that. It also list the status, together with the number of countries it has been exported to.

NOTE
1. Items purely in concept or mock-up phase like Aircraft Carrier have been left regarding their uncertainty.
2. All the items that can't be exported like those under MCTR Regime are omitted in this list.
3. This list intentionally skips obvious systems like ammunition, unguided rockets, ballistic protection, fuzes, etc.
4. Systems primarily for civilian market or used in very small numbers or systems about to retire are omitted despite the possibility of export to keep the list concise.
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The claim of quad packing Siper Block 2 with range of 150km is really intriguing.

Also, the development of MILDAS VLS system for all their missiles.

 

[Lonewarrior]

The claim of quad packing Siper Block 2 with range of 150km is really intriguing.

Also, the development of MILDAS VLS system for all their missiles.

Yup, at this point they're on their way to cover the whole naval sphere.

1. 76mm SRGM, reverse engineered OTO Melara
2. 20mm CIWS, partially based on Phalanx
3. two offerings of missile based CIWS similar to US SeaRAM
4. multiple RWS ranging from 12.7mm to 30mm
5. ASW rocket
6. Lightweight torpedo
7. Heavyweight torpedo
8. The whole HISAR/SiPER system is ready to be navalized; a complete SAM system
9. ATMACA AShM
10. GEZGIN cruise missile, analogous to Tomahawk
11. The ground based S-band and X-band radar can be navalized
12. Similarly the ground based EW system can be too
13. And lastly the Multirole VLS

They've covered pretty much everything at this point