Turkish defense industry news updates

[rodeo]

People literally fight with each other lol in the comments
These folks will slaughter each other for their beloved shehzades

Yeah. The girls



Anyway, the thread is getting derailed. I should post about it no more

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

@rodeo

http://mtcr.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/MTCR-Handbook-2017-INDEXED-FINAL-Digital.pdf

USA: 94/94
UK: 94/94
Russia: 94/94
France: 93/94
Japan: 93/94
China: 92/94
India: 81/94
Israel: 74/94
Pakistan: 39/94
South Africa: 34/94
North Korea: 25/94
Iran: 21/94
Turkey: 4/94

How much has Turkish rank improved from 2017 i wonder ?
@Vamsi @Indx TechStyle
Or do you guys not follow MTCR or do they have secret industrial bases i always wondered about this ?

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

The UAE just received twenty drones from Turkey. What’s the backstory?

On September 21, Turkey reportedly delivered twenty of its Bayraktars to the UAE. A senior Turkish official confirmed that his country had delivered some drones and that Abu Dhabi was indeed seeking more.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

Turks giving drones to UAE what's the geopolitical situation now i wonder ?

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

 

[Indx TechStyle]

The UAE just received twenty drones from Turkey. What’s the backstory?

On September 21, Turkey reportedly delivered twenty of its Bayraktars to the UAE. A senior Turkish official confirmed that his country had delivered some drones and that Abu Dhabi was indeed seeking more.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

Turks giving drones to UAE what's the geopolitical situation now i wonder ?

There is no geopolitical game in UAE buying weapons from anyone.

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

There is no geopolitical game in UAE buying weapons from anyone.

How accurate is MTCR in your opinion i mean we made large achievements after 2017 asat one of them ? is MTCR data mostly accurate?

 

[rodeo]

The first prototype of KIZILELMA has completed taxi tests successfully and is expected to fly next week.(videos are below)

 

[jai jaganath]

The first prototype of KIZILELMA has completed taxi tests successfully and is expected to fly next week.(videos are below)

Is it like loyal wingman drone
Which engine does it use

 

[rodeo]

Is it like loyal wingman drone
Which engine does it use

It surely could be utilized as a wingman but that's not its design purpose. The aircraft is a stand-alone, low-observable, fighter UCAV. It will engage enemy aircrafts directly in a contested airspace. It will have internal weapons bay to reduce RCS and GaN AESA. KIZILELMA will have several versions. The first(this one) uses Ivchenko-Progress AI-25TLT engine and will fly at high-subsonic speeds. Later versions(developed in parallel) will have supersonic, twin-engine configuration(with Ivchenko-Progress AI-322F engines) and carrier-capable models.

TEI's TF6000 engine will also fly KIZILEMA but it's no earlier than 2025.

Additional Info from Wiki:

The Kızılelma is an unmanned aircraft, featuring a low-RCS supersonic airframe and equipped with an AESA radar. The aircraft is powered by a turbofan engine, fed by two air inlets; yaw control is achieved with two vertical stabilizers. The aircraft has coupled-canard controls for increased maneuverability, or for better controlling the main wing airflow. Internal compartments will allow the aircraft to operate in contested environments while sustaining low observability.

The Kızılelma has a maximum takeoff weight (MTOW) of 6,000 kilograms (13,200 lb), with 1,500 kg of said weight available for the payload. According to data shared by the company, the Kızılelma will have an operational altitude of 35,000 feet (10,670 m).

Variants

Baykar MIUS Kızılelma is a jet-engined, low-observable, supersonic, carrier-capable UCAV designed to operate on TCG Anadolu

Baykar announced in Teknofest 2022, that there will be at least 3 variants of Kızılelma with different engine configurations. The engines are produced by the Turkish-Ukrainian joint venture Black Sea Shield. Kızılelma-A will be capable of near-supersonic speeds, being powered by the AI-25TLT engine. Kızılelma-B will fly at supersonic speeds, powered by a single Ukrainian AI-322F engine. And lastly Kızılelma-C will incorporate 2 AI-322F engines.

While there are expectations to make use of Turkish-made TEI TF6000 turbofan engines in the future, nothing has been confirmed so far.

Features

• Fully-autonomous takeoff and landing
• Low radar cross-section
• High maneuverability
• Line Of Sight (LOS) and Beyond LOS (BLOS) controlled
• Takeoff and landing capability from short-runway aircraft carriers
• High situational awareness with AESA radar
• Internal bays

 

[rodeo]

BAYKAR has posted the video on their youtube channel. The weather is not ideal for the first flight but if there's a window they'll try to fly the aircraft this week.

 

[rodeo]

BREAKING NEWS!

TFX has been moved to the final-assembly line today. There was a ceremony held in TAI.

There are still no photos of the aircraft to date. The project is being run in full-secrecy.

 

[jai jaganath]

BREAKING NEWS!

TFX has been moved to the final-assembly line today. There was a ceremony held in TAI.

There are still no photos of the aircraft to date. The project is being run in full-secrecy.

Incredible
Truly Incredible
This is what happens when a nation has an holistic approach towards advanced tech and advanced military along with European support
Forget support but the objectives are clear and on the path of achieving the objectives
As u r NATO member u will definitely get support
But point is other non military manufacturing NATO nations are not able to achieve what u guys did in short period
I could see a next China type military rising

 

[Lonewolf]

Incredible
Truly Incredible
This is what happens when a nation has an holistic approach towards advanced tech and advanced military along with European support
Forget support but the objectives are clear and on the path of achieving the objectives
As u r NATO member u will definitely get support
But point is other non military manufacturing NATO nations are not able to achieve what u guys did in short period
I could see a next China type military rising

With that budget and economy , you must be a Erdogan fan for that , cause you can't achieve much with that fucked up economy

 

[jai jaganath]

With that budget and economy , you must be a Erdogan fan for that , cause you can't achieve much with that fucked up economy

We have said so many things regarding many countries
But they have achieved it irrespective of what we say
We said porkies beggars it over they r finished but still they exist and more importantly increasing their fire power
All u need is a national goal to achieve things then everything comes in order
If we speak of India the delays and overruns are of not present times but it showcases the attitude of 70s and 80s but we are living in 2022
Things need to be upgraded but it's being done again due to attitude

 

[Lonewolf]

We have said so many things regarding many countries
But they have achieved it irrespective of what we say
We said porkies beggars it over they r finished but still they exist and more importantly increasing their fire power
All u need is a national goal to achieve things then everything comes in order
If we speak of India the delays and overruns are of not present times but it showcases the attitude of 70s and 80s but we are living in 2022
Things need to be upgraded but it's being done again due to attitude

Dude , ranting don't change stuff , a flickering flame may appear brighter , Turks hype their products as something too futuristic, compare rationally and you Will understand better

 

[SavageKing456]

Speed is not always advantageous
If drdo can sacrifice some timeline to make better product then be it.
Amca will have advanced sensors,but most importantly idk why air force asked drdo to remove eots.
Demn

 

[Vamsi]

Speed is not always advantageous
If drdo can sacrifice some timeline to make better product then be it.
Amca will have advanced sensors,but most importantly idk why air force asked drdo to remove eots.
Demn

only for Mk-1 version,right ??

 

[SavageKing456]

only for Mk-1 version,right ??

Yes

 

[Arjun Mk1A]

Speed is not always advantageous
If drdo can sacrifice some timeline to make better product then be it.
Amca will have advanced sensors,but most importantly idk why air force asked drdo to remove eots.
Demn

Faster delivery.

EOTS need time to validate. On the other existing Avionics are being tested on Tejas MK1A and MK2 platform. So, we can have matured products and AMCA line can use it. Once EOTS got ready we will move to MK2 which will have lot of RCS reduced feature.

 

[Hari Sud]

It surely could be utilized as a wingman but that's not its design purpose. The aircraft is a stand-alone, low-observable, fighter UCAV. It will engage enemy aircrafts directly in a contested airspace. It will have internal weapons bay to reduce RCS and GaN AESA. KIZILELMA will have several versions. The first(this one) uses Ivchenko-Progress AI-25TLT engine and will fly at high-subsonic speeds. Later versions(developed in parallel) will have supersonic, twin-engine configuration(with Ivchenko-Progress AI-322F engines) and carrier-capable models.

TEI's TF6000 engine will also fly KIZILEMA but it's no earlier than 2025.

Additional Info from Wiki:

The Kızılelma is an unmanned aircraft, featuring a low-RCS supersonic airframe and equipped with an AESA radar. The aircraft is powered by a turbofan engine, fed by two air inlets; yaw control is achieved with two vertical stabilizers. The aircraft has coupled-canard controls for increased maneuverability, or for better controlling the main wing airflow. Internal compartments will allow the aircraft to operate in contested environments while sustaining low observability.

The Kızılelma has a maximum takeoff weight (MTOW) of 6,000 kilograms (13,200 lb), with 1,500 kg of said weight available for the payload. According to data shared by the company, the Kızılelma will have an operational altitude of 35,000 feet (10,670 m).

Variants

Baykar MIUS Kızılelma is a jet-engined, low-observable, supersonic, carrier-capable UCAV designed to operate on TCG Anadolu

Baykar announced in Teknofest 2022, that there will be at least 3 variants of Kızılelma with different engine configurations. The engines are produced by the Turkish-Ukrainian joint venture Black Sea Shield. Kızılelma-A will be capable of near-supersonic speeds, being powered by the AI-25TLT engine. Kızılelma-B will fly at supersonic speeds, powered by a single Ukrainian AI-322F engine. And lastly Kızılelma-C will incorporate 2 AI-322F engines.

While there are expectations to make use of Turkish-made TEI TF6000 turbofan engines in the future, nothing has been confirmed so far.

Features

• Fully-autonomous takeoff and landing
• Low radar cross-section
• High maneuverability
• Line Of Sight (LOS) and Beyond LOS (BLOS) controlled
• Takeoff and landing capability from short-runway aircraft carriers
• High situational awareness with AESA radar
• Internal bays

All these nicely stated greatness of Bayarktar UCAV have fallen on the way side. The initial success of these UCAVs in Armenian War and Syria have fallen on wayside. The Ukrainians used 30 of these against Russia. But the latter managed to shoot down most of them hence Ukraine stopped using them. Moreover a fully intact Bayarktar 2 was captured by the Russians. Now they know all about it hence can shoot it down with ease. The initial enthusiasm by little countries including Pakistan has come to a big slowdown. They are not ordering it anymore except Pakistan who have ordered 30 of these and later version. For India, it is slow moving UCAV hence easy to shoot down.