Turkey: TAI TFX Fighter Program

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General characteristics

  • Capacity: * Payload:2,976 lb (1,350 kg)
    • Internal: 881 lb (400 kg)
    • External: 2,094 lb (950 kg)
  • Length: 12.5 m (41 ft 0 in)
  • Wingspan: 20 m (65 ft 7 in)
  • Height: 4.1 m (13 ft 5 in)
  • Max takeoff weight: 5,500 kg (12,125 lb)
  • Powerplant: 2 × Ivchenko-Progress Motor Sich AI-450T turboprop engines, 560 kW (750 hp) each
  • Propellers: 5-bladed composite constant-speed propelled


Performance

  • Endurance: 24 hours
  • Service ceiling: 12,192 m (40,000 ft)
Armament

Avionics

  • National AESA Radar
  • Aselsan Common Aperture Targeting System
  • Electronic Warfare Pod
The Akinci drone is equipped with indigenous active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, a SAR/GMTI radar, a surveillance system, electronic warfare, and signal intelligence suite (SIGINT), and SATCOM allowing Akinci to become an UCAV as well as ISTAR+C3 asset for Turkish military.

Note: Payload capacity is updated to 1500kg and MTOW 6000kg. The drone can also engage aerial targets.
 

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Love the scimitar propellers and the canted design of the wings. Makes it look Batman-ish. The focus on improving indigenous defence capabilities is really impressive and it is something I reiterate here (much to the chagrin of some of my fellow countrymen here). Turkey has made remarkable progress in your UAV programs and it is evident.

The biggest credit goes to your defense ministry & bureaucrats to convince your president to focus on this sector as a viable economic growth engine.
 

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Love the scimitar propellers and the canted design of the wings. Makes it look Batman-ish. The focus on improving indigenous defence capabilities is really impressive and it is something I reiterate here (much to the chagrin of some of my fellow countrymen here). Turkey has made remarkable progress in your UAV programs and it is evident.

The biggest credit goes to your defense ministry & bureaucrats to convince your president to focus on this sector as a viable economic growth engine.
Thanks for your kind words.

As for convincing people to develop indigenous UAVs, just read this thread from 2010,


We direly needed drones for counter-terrorism operations on our south-eastern border. A TB2 drone cost 400$/hour and an F16 cost 16000$/hour to fly. And using the fighter jets wasn't effective. But we were denied the drones time after time. And even when we got a few(Heron) from Israel they wouldn't work, they wouldn't deliver parts. So the drones were grounded most of the time. After all these developments we didn't need much persuasion. Our "allies" did that themselves. Today, Israel can't come anywhere close to Turkish UAV programs. And when we fly MIUS in 2023, the competition(with Israel) will be all over.

Therefore, If you(Indians) want to realize your true potential you should experience the bitter taste of sanctions(military). You should feel cornered. Then you'd see how quickly things change. And public will demand the best from the indigenous defense sector. You won't need any convincing from that point on.
 

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General characteristics

  • Capacity: * Payload:2,976 lb (1,350 kg)
    • Internal: 881 lb (400 kg)
    • External: 2,094 lb (950 kg)
  • Length: 12.5 m (41 ft 0 in)
  • Wingspan: 20 m (65 ft 7 in)
  • Height: 4.1 m (13 ft 5 in)
  • Max takeoff weight: 5,500 kg (12,125 lb)
  • Powerplant: 2 × Ivchenko-Progress Motor Sich AI-450T turboprop engines, 560 kW (750 hp) each
  • Propellers: 5-bladed composite constant-speed propelled


Performance

  • Endurance: 24 hours
  • Service ceiling: 12,192 m (40,000 ft)
Armament

Avionics

  • National AESA Radar
  • Aselsan Common Aperture Targeting System
  • Electronic Warfare Pod
The Akinci drone is equipped with indigenous active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, a SAR/GMTI radar, a surveillance system, electronic warfare, and signal intelligence suite (SIGINT), and SATCOM allowing Akinci to become an UCAV as well as ISTAR+C3 asset for Turkish military.

Note: Payload capacity is updated to 1500kg and MTOW 6000kg. The drone can also engage aerial targets.
Finally some legit specs , I had read some others too ,but most were just unrealistic .


Well good job for this .


Do u guys have a foundry for GaAs and GaN radars ??
 

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Thanks for your kind words.

As for convincing people to develop indigenous UAVs, just read this thread from 2010,


We direly needed drones for counter-terrorism operations on our south-eastern border. A TB2 drone cost 400$/hour and an F16 cost 16000$/hour to fly. And using the fighter jets wasn't effective. But we were denied the drones time after time. And even when we got a few(Heron) from Israel they wouldn't work, they wouldn't deliver parts. So the drones were grounded most of the time. After all these developments we didn't need much persuasion. Our "allies" did that themselves. Today, Israel can't come anywhere close to Turkish UAV programs. And when we fly MIUS in 2023, the competition(with Israel) will be all over.

Therefore, If you(Indians) want to realize your true potential you should experience the bitter taste of sanctions(military). You should feel cornered. Then you'd see how quickly things change. And public will demand the best from the indigenous defense sector. You won't need any convincing from that point on.
We did. India was sanctioned after our nuclear tests in 1998. That's what pushed the projects like HAL Tejas, GTRE Kaveri jet engine, a slew of indigenous radar programs, Arjun MBT, complete self-reliance in the space sector, etc.

Our problem is that our defence industry has only started changing since 2014.Before that, the defence production model was archaic and riddled with the inefficiencies of the socialist era. On top of that, the corrupt Liberal/secular regime of the UPA had no interest in developing domestic defence capabilities as it hampered their commissions from arms companies.

Currently, we are trying to accelerate the indigenization as much as possible but arms lobbies are still strong & without authoritarian power, it will take time to break their hold over bureaucrats who hold the real administrative powers in the Indian government.
 

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Designing is what I understand , what about production , who supplied the machines and all
This is their first AESA radar and it looks like they have patch antennas there. Well it's good for drones, light combat jets and all but not good enough for an f16 MLU or TFX. Can't make out if it's a GaN or GaAs based

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This is their first AESA radar and it looks like they have patch antennas there. Well it's good for drones, light combat jets and all but not good enough for an f16 MLU or TFX. Can't make out if it's a GaN or GaAs based

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This Radar is Called Aselsan EIRS (Early Warning RADAR System). It has been developed by a Turkish company called Aselsan.

There are many sources on the internet which claim that Turkey will use it in its F-16 Fighters and Akinci Drones(I don't how true this is though)
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(Note-I may be wrong here so feel free to correct me)
 

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I was just going through Pakistan Defence Forum with regards to Turkish Defence Equipments like Radars ,Drones, Aircrafts etc and all the Pakistanis on those threads Were becoming Orgasmic and saying things like:
'inshallah we will pray for our Turkish Muslim Brothers so that they may be able to make this Radar so we will be able to Integrate this in out all our Aircrafts'
'the best to our Turk brothers. please do it quickly so we can also send our F-16 for upgrades. Thanks'
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